German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser

26 July, 2010
The popular German foundation Stiftung Warentest, which is the regional authority on consumer product testing accommodated the recently unveiled Apple iPhone 4 in its lab and tested its notorious...

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  • Thomas
  • Gg8
  • 28 Jul 2010

I am in Kuwait and my friend has an unlocked iPhone 4 that he bought from France. He is not even aware of such a fault. I took the iPhone 4 and held it by blocking the antenna completely and the signal did not drop even the smallest bit. My friend said that blocking the antenna and holding the iPhone in a certain angle sometimes loses one line of signal power.

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    • 9x0
    • 28 Jul 2010

    its like driving a car..

    when you go to a driving school..they would tell you the right way to handle the steering wheel....

    but it doesnt mean that you cant hold it any other way w/o affecting your driving capabilities... right?? get me???

    but your iphone4.. you cant hold it anyway you want...
    so much for a state of the art mobile phone device..isnt it??

    if it is what is says.."a break through" 'state of the art" you can, you will be able to hold it in any possible way...right???


    but can you???

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      • iphone4fan
      • PTU
      • 28 Jul 2010

      iphone4fan, 28 Jul 2010Simple adaptive interfacing people. Holding correctly is w... moreAnyone else love Apples range of brilliant and exciting break-throughs agree with me?

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        • iphone4fan
        • PTU
        • 28 Jul 2010

        Simple adaptive interfacing people.
        Holding correctly is what 99.55% of Apple users have no issue with

        Very small % cannot manage this task. So run to the media for help.
        Apple don't baby there customers,if you can't bothered to do a simple request ,as the song says "don't buy the i-phone'
        Apple didn't force those 99.55% of 3 million to buy it, they are happily adapting to this exciting technology.

        iphone4fan (probably the number one apple fan on the net)

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          • iphone4fan
          • PTU
          • 28 Jul 2010

          [deleted post]He would design a very cool toilet, if Apple was in that business
          but they are not.

          Are you an iphone user dude.
          Holding it without touching that part is easy.
          So a non issue right.
          Just poorly skilled people i guess can keep touching that area when there is no need too.
          Same as don't touch the wheels when your bike riding, but if poorly skilled you could touch that part and your hand get caught up.


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            • Anonymous
            • Uij
            • 28 Jul 2010

            good question other devices lose signal but they don't drop the call on you, man why do we even need to buy something that offers us a high possibility of dropping calls

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              • iphone4fan
              • PTU
              • 28 Jul 2010

              Most the people are against Apple are mainly in fear.
              Steve Jobs is very nice, just because your CEO don't give free stuff right.
              Basically a small % can't follow basic holding skills, so to keep everyone happy we get nice surprise of free cases.
              Try and name 14 people without a case, everyone has them, just becasue
              its very kool as apple said.



              I thought the conference was going to be about the iphone 4g,
              Very suprised the others were having antenna problems was what i got from it.

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                • Anonymous
                • 4Tu
                • 28 Jul 2010

                [deleted post]Oh please. People use phones differently from one another. What's a common practice for you may not necessarily be mine. A real fool is the one who cannot learn to respect other people's choices and preferences.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • 4Tu
                  • 28 Jul 2010

                  [deleted post]My gosh, where did your comprehension go. I never said that the iPad can replace a desktop computer or a laptop. I even said that it's in a different category. But again, there are some advantages that the iPad have over a desktop computer or a laptop.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 4Tu
                    • 28 Jul 2010

                    [deleted post]People has caught up with the way nokia does business. They impress the users on paper, but cannot deliver the goods. That's BS. The first two iPhones offered less specs on paper, but delivered smooth operation. iPhone 3GS was even more impressive both in it's spec list and performance. Now the iphone4 excelled in all aspects, from spec sheet to performance. While nokia releases pretty much the same stuff over and over again. No innovation. No advancement. Very little improvements. With a failed nokia music store and ovi store. And declining market and capital share.

                    The A4 chip is a not just a typical processor. It's a SoC unique to the iPad and the iphone4.

                    The ip4 sold over 3 million units from the day it was released. By now, it probably already sold over 4 million. It will be released to more countries this Friday. Meaning, the numbers will even go higher. And, that is despite all the negative attacks on the iphone4. Still it manages to sell really well.

                    Don't complicate things. The ip4 has one weak spot. Whether you touch or grip it, it would degrade signal when you are in an area with a weak reception. Antennagate does not happen in areas where there's strong reception. And, this issue is totally remedied with a case.

                    Internet tablets are Internet tablets. They are not full fledged computers like desktop computers and laptops are, although they have computing capabilities, but limited compared to laptops and desktop computers. A little common sense would help you.

                    Surfing the web via the iPad is faster than on a laptop. Zooming on web pages, opening links, switching from one web page to another, etc. Is much faster. Not to mention that you can turn the screen on and off in less than a second. Battery life is also longer on the iPad. If you need to check something online real quick, you can do it on the iPad in less than a minute. You can't with a laptop.

                    Since I've had my iPad, I probably open my laptop every other week. I used to open my laptop every day. That's how the iPad changed my routine.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • 4Tu
                      • 28 Jul 2010

                      deep space bar, 28 Jul 2010are you sure cause that's what stevie J wants to do is make... moreOh stop the lies. Steve never said that the iPad will replace computers or laptops. What he did say was, that the iPad will be a device that falls between the iPhone and a laptop.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 4Tu
                        • 28 Jul 2010

                        deep space barha, 28 Jul 2010no one has tried plus if you can install a FULL OS on a MOB... moreOh please, give it up already. If your n900 is that great, then how come it didn't sell as much as the iPhone or the iPad?

                        Just face it. Nokia devices are lagging behind. They're poor performers. Good on paper, but can't deliver.

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                          • scandinavian_armor
                          • v0q
                          • 28 Jul 2010

                          "The N900 is the same as the 3GS" -->lol. are you serious?!the only thing that is good with 3gs is its apps and user-friendliness.specs-wise, N900 is eons ahead of 3GS.

                          "The A4 is custom designed" -->yeah, but is was based on A8. its like A8 with a higher frequency

                          "ah, the ip4 already sold over 3 million units in 3 weeks. They've been sold out of ip4's since day 1 and up to now."
                          "3 million w/in 3 weeks for a single phone is a grear feat. Not a lot of phones can sell that many in three weeks :)"
                          "Remember everyone. The iPhone 4 sold 3 million units in just 3 weeks!!"
                          --> that data is around 2weeks old. so what is they sold 3M?as they've said in the previous posts, had they known that there are such issues, would apple still manage to sell 3M?

                          "Correction, antennagate on the ip4 only happens when that small black strip is touched, not by just touching the phone.

                          Showing other phones having attenuation issues is not slandering. There's nothing offensive with that. It is the truth. It's not like Apple just made those things up." -->you just said it. the iphone loses signal WHEN A CERTAIN AREA IS TOUCHED while others phones LOSES SIGNAL WHEN A CERTAIN AREA IS GRIPPED. c'mon man, grip is different from touch.

                          "The iPad is an Internet tablet/ebook reader. It's a totally different category from computers" -->but internet tablet falls under the category of computers...techterms.com defined computer as a programmable machine. This means it can execute a programmed list of instructions and respond to new instructions that it is given.

                          "- surfing the web is so much fun on the iPad than a laptop" -->hahaha. i'd rather surf web on the laptop...

                          "Haters should get over their jealousy of the iPhone." -->lol. here we go again. what should we jealous for? the death grip? the drop calls? the faketime? no thanks. my cheap plastic feature phone can do more task than your 'smart' (i)phone(4)

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                            • deep space bar
                            • q}Z
                            • 28 Jul 2010

                            Anonymous, 28 Jul 2010The iPad was never meant to replace a laptop. There are so... moreare you sure cause that's what stevie J wants to do is make his tablet"PC" replace laptops and netbooks

                            he even said it himself

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                              • deep space barha
                              • q}Z
                              • 28 Jul 2010

                              Anonymous, 28 Jul 2010Just because your n900 can boot 3 mobile smartphone OS and ... moreno one has tried plus if you can install a FULL OS on a MOBILE computer which is the N900 it has the supported drivers

                              so if someone overclocked the N900 to 850mhz - 950mhz
                              and installed ubuntu which is available
                              the and the USB on the go is added the you can
                              N900 from last a few months of release already had BT keyboard and Mouse support just like the N8 does
                              so it's already possible that the N900 can virtually do almost everything and anything

                              that a netbook can do

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                                • Anonymous
                                • 4Tu
                                • 28 Jul 2010

                                Anonymous, 28 Jul 2010I like that video http://www.vnexpress.net/GL/Vi-tinh/G... moreThat's one dumb video.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • 4Tu
                                  • 28 Jul 2010

                                  Allan, 28 Jul 2010What is even the purpose of this ipad thing.Its not small t... moreThe iPad was never meant to replace a laptop. There are some things that the iPad can do better than a laptop.

                                  - it turns off and on much faster than a laptop.
                                  - it's more manageable
                                  - has tons of apps for your different needs
                                  - movies look good on the iPad
                                  - reading books is a joy on the iPad
                                  - battery life is longer than a laptop
                                  - surfing the web is so much fun on the iPad than a laptop
                                  - checking and reply to emails is a breeze on the iPad

                                  And there's more. Still, it's not meant to replace a laptop or a desktop computer. But more of a convenient device for things you need to do quickly without having to open your laptop. So you are wrong to pit it to against laptop or computer.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • LEW
                                    • 28 Jul 2010

                                    Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Ahhhh, how sweet.  Don't feel sorry for me buddy. &nbs... moreOh, I'm so sorry you have an IPhone4, u should get a Samsung for free, just be honest and complaint bout ur lowend, bad quality IPhone and they'll send u one. I thimk thats the reason for getting an IPhone, to get a Samsung, hahahahaha

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • 4Tu
                                      • 28 Jul 2010

                                      Allan, 28 Jul 2010The ipad has no disk drive,so you cant burn or play a cd on it!But you see I never claimed that the iPad is a mobile computer like the other claimed the n900 to be :)

                                      The iPad is an Internet tablet/ebook reader. It's a totally different category from computers.