Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 821 chipset, ups performance by 10%

11 July, 2016
Snapdragon 821 is a slight improvement over its 820 predecessor, higher clock speeds for the CPU.

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  • Anonymous
  • nI8
  • 02 Aug 2016

SD821 should run at 1.6MHz and 2.4MHz. Running the slower speed at 1.8MHz or 2MHz is too close to full speed. The lower speed is for a long battery life. I wouldn't have a problem with 1.2MHz and 2.4MHz. Double the speed when you need the power!

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    • Lex79
    • B{s
    • 14 Jul 2016

    AnonD-248589, 14 Jul 2016You are one of those dinosaurs holding on to their fossil p... moreFossil phones????........I'm currently using a G5, though considering the maturity you are displaying, I would say even it is still older than you.

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      • AnonD-248589
      • Ibx
      • 14 Jul 2016

      Lex79, 14 Jul 2016And out comes the attitude, well that didn't take long. ... moreYou are one of those dinosaurs holding on to their fossil phones and trying to justify it in your own mind. Of course it won't heat as fast when it runs at the speed of molasses.

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        • Lex79
        • B{s
        • 14 Jul 2016

        AnonD-248589, 14 Jul 2016You let me know the day running benchmarks all day matters ... moreAnd out comes the attitude, well that didn't take long.

        Care or don't, what does it matter. I'm just giving the facts to counter your woefully ill informed opinion.

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          • AnonD-248589
          • RbX
          • 14 Jul 2016

          Lex79, 13 Jul 2016Well that would kind of run contrary to what Anandtech are ... moreYou let me know the day running benchmarks all day matters and I might care.

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            • Smuti
            • 3pw
            • 14 Jul 2016

            Anonymous, 11 Jul 2016Good. Now all the "must have newest" people will jump on th... moreI only wish it would be such a case.

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              • Smuti
              • 3pw
              • 14 Jul 2016

              cyber, 11 Jul 2016nothing new,just overclocked version of 820Pretty much a repeat of 800 into 801.

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                • Lex79
                • gL@
                • 13 Jul 2016

                AnonD-248589, 13 Jul 2016Fortunatly 99% of intensive operations don't last more than... moreWell that would kind of run contrary to what Anandtech are saying in the example......

                Throttling on the very quickly results in the shutting down of the A57 cores. That leaves you with 4×A53 @ a max of 1.44ghz vs 4× krait 400 @ a max of 2.7ghz.

                I think the numbers will show an advantage to the 805 there, and thats what anandtech were trying to say.

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                  • AnonD-248589
                  • RbX
                  • 13 Jul 2016

                  Lex79, 12 Jul 2016Your right about the 64-bit aspect offering the 808 the adv... moreFortunatly 99% of intensive operations don't last more than two minutes. Even throttled the 808 is faster than an 805.

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                    • Lex79
                    • LhN
                    • 12 Jul 2016

                    AnonD-404798, 11 Jul 2016yes , but Z5 Premium have dual heat pipes filled with liqui... moreThe dual Heatpipes Sony saw as necessary in the Z5 & Z5P show just how bad the issue with the 810 really was.

                    I have said it before and I'll say it again, having to include such measures as Heatpipes in a mobile device is usually a sure sign something is not right.

                    Or in Anandtech's words:

                    "having a heat-pipe thermal dissipation system is a quite worrying characteristic of the phone and should in no way be seen as a positive feature as it points to high power draw figures on the part of the SoC."

                    Thats Anandtech talking about the Galaxy S7 and its one heatpipe, the Z5/Z6P both have two, so what do you think that's telling us.......

                    The 810 was a disaster, there's no denying it.

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                      • Lex79
                      • LhN
                      • 12 Jul 2016

                      AnonD-248589, 12 Jul 2016808 is about 30% faster on the cpu side and the move to 64b... moreYour right about the 64-bit aspect offering the 808 the advantage over the 805.

                      With regards CPU speed though, any advantage the 808 and even the 810 have over the 805 is short lived at best, this is an excerpt for the Anandtech's Nexus 5X review:

                      "In this case I think it's pretty clear that any sustained workload lasting longer than 2 minutes is going to be substantially faster on a Snapdragon 805 device, and truthfully if your workload takes advantage of multiple cores it's likely that Snapdragon 805 will always be faster even within those first two minutes where Snapdragon 808's A57s are at their peak frequencies. I wouldn't want to say anything for certain, but this is probably true for Snapdragon 801 as well."

                      Here is the link if you want to read the full page:

                      http://www.anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/3

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                        • AnonD-248589
                        • Ibx
                        • 12 Jul 2016

                        Lex79, 12 Jul 2016Yes the 808 was a decent soc, I used a G4 for much of last ... more808 is about 30% faster on the cpu side and the move to 64bit is showing the age of the 805 as devs stop making backward compatible apps.

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                          • Lex79
                          • gL@
                          • 12 Jul 2016

                          AnonD-479319, 12 Jul 2016810 was a joke...i wonder how higher clocks will treat the ... moreI've been wondering the same, as far as I can tell there's no architectural improvements being implemented here to offset the larger power draw associated with higher clock speeds.

                          And some of those speeds have seen quite a bump up, ok the gpu is only 26mhz faster. On the cpu side however its gone up 200mhz for the two 'big' Kryo cores, and 400mhz for the two 'LITTLE' cores.

                          That's got to take its toll in some way.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • Yd6
                            • 12 Jul 2016

                            10% increase in performance and 20% increase in power consumption?

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                              • Anonymous
                              • pXf
                              • 12 Jul 2016

                              Qualcomm should make chipsets that work and not overheat like in 15min! Let's hope their future chipsets are better in temperature, performance management!

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                                • AnonD-479319
                                • vx%
                                • 12 Jul 2016

                                810 was a joke...i wonder how higher clocks will treat the battery on the 821

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                                  • Lex79
                                  • nw}
                                  • 12 Jul 2016

                                  VoloKin Project, 12 Jul 2016Totally agree with you mate. Oneplus One and LG G2 are perf... moreI've found the battery performance to be alright, am currently using a G5 and even with that 2800mh (what were LG thinking!!) battery I'm able to get a full day.

                                  Not saying there's not ample room for improvement though

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                                    • Lex79
                                    • nw}
                                    • 12 Jul 2016

                                    AnonD-248589, 12 Jul 2016808 at 1080p flies. Yes the 808 was a decent soc, I used a G4 for much of last year and had no real issues with performance.

                                    The problem is the 808 had no real benefits over say the 805, actually for sustainable performance the 805 (and 801 to some degree) were actually better.

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                                      • Ibx
                                      • 12 Jul 2016

                                      VoloKin Project, 12 Jul 2016Totally agree with you mate. Oneplus One and LG G2 are perf... more808 at 1080p flies.

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                                        • MasEnha
                                        • 9xx
                                        • 12 Jul 2016

                                        Just skip this one shall you already have SD820 or even SD650.