Microsoft Lumia 1030 and 750: cancelled Windows Phones unearthed

08 November 2016
We missed out on a seriously good camera and a middling mid-ranger.

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The Wise One, 15 Nov 2016Phones don't have 50 megapixel cameras for the same reason ... moreWe already had 42MP back in 2012 with Nokia 808 PureView, so 50MP wouldn't have been something extraordinary... Now, we have 100+MP cameras and rumors on 200MP...

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    The Wise One, 15 Nov 2016Phones don't have 50 megapixel cameras for the same reason ... moreIt's 2021, we got some random phones that have 50 MP cameras and 100+ MP cams too.

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      • 22 Nov 2020

      @The Wise One your comment has not aged well, has it?

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        • 15 Nov 2016

        LG superfan, 13 Nov 2016Why dont current smartphones have 50mp cameraPhones don't have 50 megapixel cameras for the same reason that they don't have 100 megapixel cameras. However, I'm not sure why phones don't have 100 megapixel cameras, so maybe someone wiser than me will be along shortly!

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          • 14 Nov 2016

          S7 Edge yay, 13 Nov 2016In late 2015 Microsoft released the Lumia 950 which was cap... moreYeah...Lumia 950 was a highly anticipated model, I was among the many people, who were interested in getting it. But after release everything went upside down and it kinda began WP downfall (before 950 they had 3.5% market share). MS didn't care enough about their mobile OS platform, which was very transparent for both customers and 3rd party devs.

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            • 14 Nov 2016

            LG superfan, 13 Nov 2016Why dont current smartphones have 50mp cameraMegapixels matter very little if the sensor isn't good.
            More megapixels with a crappy sensor will mean you can make a not so great photo bigger without losing the bad amount of detail given.
            You want an insanely good sensor mixed with like 20 megapixels. will shoot like a DSLR from your pocked

              Why dont current smartphones have 50mp camera

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                • 13 Nov 2016

                AnonD-507785, 08 Nov 2016No wonder. MS should cancel its mobile division altogether.... moreIn late 2015 Microsoft released the Lumia 950 which was capable of working on both CDMA & GSM and was an extremely anticipated and popular phone as it meant it could work on any network on the planet

                Only Verizon as CDMA network could activate phones for use in its Network which it refused and demanded? Microsoft switch of the CDMA antenna thus rendering the Lumia 950 a GSM phone only.

                Whatever sales the Lumia 950 would have generated, it would be fraction of what the Google Pixel would have been.
                That said there is no future for Microsoft on Verizon, so just not just a ban for Microsoft, no future for the OS, on a significant Network in the US.

                If we accept that the figure is correct being banned from a major US Network hasn't helped

                Here is a comparison of the 2015 950 v the 2016 Pixel http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone1=8346&idPhone2=7262

                That Windows PC / Laptop are so dominant makes the "squashing" by Verizon even more strange

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                  • 13 Nov 2016

                  Has MS already completed the synchronization of Outlook on the PC with mobile (Lumia / Windows phone)? Automatic sync chosen color in Outlook calendar with mobile. The whole world uses MS voor business, simply optimise you synchorinsation ad MS will be a winner

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                    • 09 Nov 2016

                    Anyone interested in Winphone better wait for Surface Phone. At this moment MS Lumia line is practically dead.

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                      • 09 Nov 2016

                      Stan, 08 Nov 2016I'll take a 12mp 2/3" sensor over a 50mp 2/3" any day. The... moreYou are so wrong.. As long as sensors use bayer filter there will be awful amount of noise even with the biggest sensor size.. Downsampling a picture with higher resolution will allow picture processing to remove noise(in Pureview system, 8 pixels are analysed and the true color will be selected).. Higher resolution sensor will also trump lower resolution sensor of the same size in broad daylight where the pixel size difference diminished because of ample light.. The higher resolution sensor will always win in terms of details, noise, dynamic range, etc..

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                        • 09 Nov 2016

                        Stan, 08 Nov 2016I'll take a 12mp 2/3" sensor over a 50mp 2/3" any day. The... moreYou've obviously never used the 1020. Amazing low light performance, even when zoomed

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                          • 09 Nov 2016

                          JackTheIPhoneKiller, 08 Nov 2016In all honesty, Lumia 720 still remains the phone to beat a... moreit was long beaten

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                            • 08 Nov 2016

                            Anonymous, 08 Nov 2016Supercars market share is also less than 1%. So supercars a... moreWrong. Why buy supercar, when you won't be able to use it as one? Same here. Why buy a smartphone, when all it is good for, is just a phone?

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                              • 08 Nov 2016

                              Anonymous, 08 Nov 2016The algorithm used by the 950 series is so much better than... moreYou cannot create something that doesnt exist. If image information was lost no denoising and interpolation will restore it. Hense the low light performance difference between Sony A7s vs A7r(or anything else out there). Or are you going to try to tell me that A7s has a better denoising algorithm?

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                                • 08 Nov 2016

                                Stan, 08 Nov 2016I'll take a 12mp 2/3" sensor over a 50mp 2/3" any day. The... moreThe algorithm used by the 950 series is so much better than Apple and Samsung's latest. That algorithm coupled with 50mp supersampling would be a killer camera.

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                                  • 08 Nov 2016

                                  AnonD-606105, 08 Nov 2016MS should give us the 1030 with SD 820 and bump the ram to ... moreI'll take a 12mp 2/3" sensor over a 50mp 2/3" any day.
                                  The noise performance in 808 pureview and all top lumias with large sensors is only a fraction better than in a current day 12mp 1/2.5". I'll take a lower resolution, where i'll sacrifice the zoom capability, for low light performance, any day over a high res sensor.
                                  In a smartphone, anything that is not perfect daylight = low light.

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                                    • 08 Nov 2016

                                    Anonymous, 08 Nov 2016Supercars market share is also less than 1%. So supercars a... moreHorrible analogy.
                                    Supercars serve as halo vehicles. Technology demonstrators.
                                    A Corvette for GM is like a Galaxy Note line for samsung(at least like it was before Note 7), on the other hand Lumia devices for msft are like Saturn or Hummer for GM - A half-dead production line that barely anyone buys.

                                    Sure, to some they might have been good, but the whole Nokia exclusive debacle essentially killed it. They tried to play Apple(exclusivity in small numbers, with control freak-like grip on software), while they're only good at playing Google/Microsoft (flood the market with options and let the consumer choice win.)

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                                      • 08 Nov 2016

                                      Mr mobile has already reviewed the lumia 1030 McLaren... Why is this unearthed now again?

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                                        • 08 Nov 2016

                                        AnonD-507785, 08 Nov 2016No wonder. MS should cancel its mobile division altogether.... moreSupercars market share is also less than 1%. So supercars are bad, and manufacturers should stop making them. Right?