2010 mobile phone market overview: the best and the rest

28 January, 2011
After all major manufacturers posted their 2010 financial reports, it's time we draw the line and see what has changed over the past year. Apple was the biggest winner, surpassing several companies and...

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  • 29 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 29 Jan 2011Hey Symbian guys! Let's talk about this at a poker game on... moredont forget to tell that to iphone users and android 2.1 and below users too mate!

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    • 29 Jan 2011

    Megalord, 29 Jan 2011Sigh.... read this... http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2... moreWhoops, silly me.

    "I have already seen prototypes of phones with HDMI long before N8 is launched, and they are running android"

    could you state some of those models pls. and it is just a prototype. How the hell would that public know bout that. The n8 did introduced it first to the public. Sort of like a 'first move'

    "For what you have mentioned, they are kinda easily available on other smartphones as well"

    Urrm...where else can you find HDMI, USB OTG, Ovi maps, etc on any other phones on the current market?

    "720P looks horrible on HDTV"

    doesnt look too horrible to me 0_o

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      • 29 Jan 2011

      Megalord, 29 Jan 2011Oh really? I didn't know the N93 has better photo quality c... moreI said N93 has better camera than any known "Android phone" (neva knew the N8 and i8910 were Android phones). If ye made real-life, side-by-side photo comparison between it and the Xperia X10(supposedly best Android cameraphone) ye would know. And please, view the pictures on an LCD screen coz the N93s screen looks lame nxt to the Xperia. And yeah, the N82 is overkill fer any known Android phone today. The reason I assumed ye a fanboy is because ye just attempted te dethrone the N8 of its BEST CAMERA PHONE title and hand it te an ANDROID-RUNNING Altek Leo that ye hav no prior physical experience with. If that aint fanboyism, then the term itself myt as wel seize te exist

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        • Some guy from Greece
        • HBm
        • 29 Jan 2011

        Megalord, 29 Jan 2011If i ain't using them, would they be in my phone, wasting p... moreI was very precise. You said you have 50 usefull downloaded applications in your phone.
        Do you actually use 50 downloaded applications?
        Would you mind listing which they are?

        I know that there are many applications out there, i know that some can be useful, but that isn't what i objected...

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          • 29 Jan 2011

          adkane, 29 Jan 2011Well there the HDMI for starters (but other phones gonna ge... moreFor what you have mentioned, they are kinda easily available on other smartphones as well... Stop talking about HDMI unless its 1080P. 720P looks horrible on HDTV.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 29 Jan 2011

            Hey Symbian guys!
            Let's talk about this at a poker game on Kongregate. Say what? Can't play Flash 10.1 games? Well, see you later then. :)

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              • 29 Jan 2011

              Some guy from Greece, 29 Jan 2011"Oh dear, you totally shouldn't be using a smartphone,... moreIf i ain't using them, would they be in my phone, wasting precious space on my SD card? Of course i use them regularly as long as i am carrying that phone.
              There are too many good and free apps to list, and considering that i have listed them before, i suggest you to search for them. And in any forums, there are easily a few hundred apps many find useful. Don't be lazy, go find and read them.

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                • 29 Jan 2011

                Megalord, 29 Jan 2011I find most smartphones the same out of the box instead. Wi... moreWell there the HDMI for starters (but other phones gonna get that soon enough), USB OTG, Ovi Maps (whats the use of a gps without maps), superb camera, awesome video and photo editor.

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                  • 29 Jan 2011

                  adkane, 29 Jan 2011Output applications? How can that be? Since HDMI on android... moreSigh.... read this...
                  http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_p990_flaunts_its_dualcore_powers_on_video_-news-2198.php

                  Theres mirroring on the Optimus 2X as well... And this is only the first from android. There are tonnes of other dual core android phones coming that probably incorporate more...

                  Hmph, did N8 start it? I have already seen prototypes of phones with HDMI long before N8 is launched, and they are running android. Thus, i have reservations if N8 started it.

                  I have no doubts that N8 is a good phone but when one claims that it is the best in a certain feature, i hope these guys know what they are saying.

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                    • 29 Jan 2011

                    Megalord, 29 Jan 2011Oh dear, you totally shouldn't be using a smartphone, if yo... more"Oh dear, you totally shouldn't be using a smartphone, if you use less than 10 useful apps. I have tried more than 400 android free apps to date, and i found more than 50 quality ones that are very useful. Don't assume that others didn't realize the potential of a smartphone like you do."

                    400... I know that for some buyers dowloading applications is a hobby, like a mobile videogame. It is important for them, no doupt. Their needs are well respected.

                    When i wrote useful, i didn't mean in general. There might easily be 50 useful Aps. But do you use them all? If you do, could you make a list? Just out of curiosity...

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                      • 29 Jan 2011

                      adkane, 29 Jan 2011"A smartphone can only do that much out of the box&quo... moreI find most smartphones the same out of the box instead. Will you highlight what makes N8 so powerful out of the box which is unavailable on other smartphones? They can message, play videos, make calls, have integrated GPS, video/caemra functions... How different are the basic capabilities?

                      Anyway, many apps are free, no harm getting them.

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                        • 29 Jan 2011

                        Megalord, 29 Jan 2011First thing you gotta know about the N8 HDMI. Its 720P, its... moreOutput applications? How can that be? Since HDMI on androids is only for media.

                        Yeah optical zoom beats digital zoom anytime (same like xenon vs led). But then again, the n8 digital zoom is pretty incredible. there seems to be no loss of details even when zoomed to the maximum. A drawback is that it wont zoom far. About like 25m from your position tops.

                        im actually pretty happy to see future phones will have 1080p output (minus SE Arc of course). But it was the n8 that started it all, just like how the iphone started the touch screen and mobile app boom. There is no stopping mobile phone technology :)

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                          • 29 Jan 2011

                          Myself, 29 Jan 2011Is that what ye Android fanboys thnk? That the number of pi... moreOh really? I didn't know the N93 has better photo quality compared to the N8. I had a N93 many years back and it sux compared to the i8910HD and Nexus One.

                          And btw, stop calling others android fanboy, especially when i am not carrying an android phone. Im using Windows XP Embedded and iOS right now. I don't worship any phone manufacturer for your information. I only add information when i see rubbish posts.

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                            • 29 Jan 2011

                            Anonymous, 29 Jan 2011That's just a link to a Google search. How about you actual... moreHere's the cached article so you guys can read it without logging in to Wall Street Journal. Read the quotes from the Nokia CEO himself.


                            http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:agDG96t6b_0J:online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704268104576107591575344446.html+nokia+falls+behind&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&source=www.google.com

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 29 Jan 2011

                              adkane, 29 Jan 2011Actually symbian^3 has a good number of games and apps at t... moreon ANDROID u can play PS games , watch videos on youtube

                              Seriously ANDROID is much better than Symbain on every aspect .

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                                • 29 Jan 2011

                                [deleted post]Actually symbian^3 has a good number of games and apps at the moment to keep you busy.

                                BTW did you know that snakes is actually very addictive. 50mil for angry birds? Pffft, still cant compared to the 1 billion+ people that had played snakes in the whole wide world

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                                  • 29 Jan 2011

                                  adkane, 29 Jan 2011But they dont offer HDMI mirroring like what the n8 is doin... moreFirst thing you gotta know about the N8 HDMI. Its 720P, its not 1080P.

                                  LG Optimus 2X can accept a 1080P HDMI input to record it in 1080P format, or output video or applications through HDMI in 1080P.

                                  Its nuts to record in 720P to watch your videos in the phone. D1 will do. Its nuts to view 12MP photos on the phone too. Isn't it taken for granted that when we take 1080P videos or anything more than 5MP, that we will view it on a computer or full HD TV? In this case i will take the 1080P anytime. But do note that the N8 can only output 720P, not 1080P through the HDMI interface.

                                  Altek Leo? Nevermind the sensor size, read carefully. Its using optical zoom.

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                                    • 29 Jan 2011

                                    Megalord, 29 Jan 2011A number of up coming android devices are launching with th... moreIs that what ye Android fanboys thnk? That the number of pixels determine which camera is better? Lol then explain why no known Android phone can compete with the 3.2Mpx N93 when it comes te still photo quality... oh yeah, ye dnt knw that

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                                      • 29 Jan 2011

                                      Megalord, 29 Jan 2011A smartphone can only do that much out of the box. If you d... more"A smartphone can only do that much out of the box"

                                      The n8 can do a lot out of the box IMHO. Same goes with some high end android phones. The saddest however is the iphone.

                                      yeah you do need SOME apps for your phone to enhance the user experience. But to have to download a number of apps just to make your phone barely usable (iphone in this case) is simply bullshit to me

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                                        • 29 Jan 2011

                                        Megalord, 29 Jan 2011A number of up coming android devices are launching with th... moreBut they dont offer HDMI mirroring like what the n8 is doing right now.

                                        What is the sensor size of the 14mp Altek Leo btw?

                                        720p and 1080p wont not make such a noticeable difference on a phone screen, unless however you view it on a 1080p HD tv