MeeGo bug report reveals a juicy Nokia device, possibly the N9?
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- tish
- qJP
- 16 Feb 2011
How should this article be interpreted, in light of Nokia's recently-announced near-abandonment of Meego, and jumping into bed announcement, with MS for Windows Phone 7?
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- Anonymous
- Mn{
- 07 Feb 2011
When looking at the possible specs for this i am impressed. The same thing happened with the N8. While the phone specs look good on paper, Nokia doesnt seem to deliver. I really thought the N8 would change things aroung but it didnt.
I hope that they deliver something good with the N9.....and by that i mean not only good hardware, but software as well. If this phone turns out to suffer software issues like the previous phones, then nokia are going to lose lots of customers from their smartphone base.
I hope the N9 lives up to the hype. If not then I guess we all have to move to another brand.
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- Some guy from Greece
- HBm
- 06 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 05 Feb 2011"http://pocketnow.com/android/m...mb-on-phones
Didn't... moreI don't know much about webOS...
I do know that when a product increase it's, already huge, sales you can't call it dead.
Actually you csn but you won't be making any sense then...
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- Trj
- 05 Feb 2011
Nokia rocks
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- vGA
- 05 Feb 2011
chester, 05 Feb 2011i bet i'll b able 2 install Honeycomb on Meego phones(when ... morekeep betting ! :)
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- chester
- f3b
- 05 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 05 Feb 2011"http://pocketnow.com/android/m...mb-on-phones Didn't... morei bet i'll b able 2 install Honeycomb on Meego phones(when i get it)like any other app.
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- AnonD-291
- vGA
- 05 Feb 2011
Anonymous, 05 Feb 2011"wrong. did Google ever say honeycomb will come to sma... more"http://pocketnow.com/android/m...mb-on-phones
Didn't they? Even if they wouldn't have it is more than obvious..."
Forget what PocketNow says.... I watched the whole video and what Matias Duarte says is that "What u see in android honeycomb is certainly the way were headed" (11:15)
Now it doesnt mean that honeycomb will come to smartphones, it means that the 3D interfaces and cool new features (seen in honeycomb) are coming to smartphones (maybe in android 2.4). Also dont forget that honeycomb was created because current Android versions are for smartphone needs, while that of tablets are completely different. So similarly a tablet OS (honeycomb) wont fit into a smartphone.
Anyway thanks for the video, it was a good one.
"The so called "dying platform" INCREASED it's customers by 13% YoY, and 22% QoQ, for the Q4 of 2010. Stronger increase for the last quarter (S^3 came out) than the last year"
So Web OS have increased number of users after HP's acquisition, then would u say that webOS is still not dead ??
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- Anonymous
- HBm
- 05 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 05 Feb 2011"does Google with Adroid 3.0... They built a new platf... more"wrong. did Google ever say honeycomb will come to smartphone? if so please share the link.
go to gsmarena blog searh for the recent android event news, and just read the title."
http://pocketnow.com/android/matias-duarte-gives-glimpse-of-android-honeycomb-on-phones
Didn't they? Even if they wouldn't have it is more than obvious...
"if u say that decrease in market share from more than 60% to 30 % is not the first sign that it has started dying, then so be it. its ur opinion."
http://www.nokia.com/results/Nokia_results2010Q4e.pdf
Page 5.
The so called "dying platform" INCREASED it's customers by 13% YoY, and 22% QoQ, for the Q4 of 2010. Stronger increase for the last quarter (S^3 came out) than the last year.
You call dying a product that sells better and better - quite an opinion!
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- Anonymous
- t7X
- 05 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 05 Feb 2011"does Google with Adroid 3.0... They built a new platf... morewhat a very short sighted view.
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- vGA
- 05 Feb 2011
Some guy from Greece, 04 Feb 2011"the word i used is "market share" NOT "... more"does Google with Adroid 3.0... They built a new platform (that will end up in future phones) "
wrong. did Google ever say honeycomb will come to smartphone? if so please share the link.
go to gsmarena blog searh for the recent android event news, and just read the title.
" built a new platform (that will end up in future phones) from scratch (only the name is the same). Does Google's behavior make sense"
wrong. not just name is the same, the OS and kernel is also the same. the only thing they built from scratch is the User Interface to optimise it for tablet experience. in nokia's case they built everything new - new ui, new kernel, new os etc although they have symbian.
"The, so called, dying Symbian is growing too... Weakening is the right word and is way different that die"
if u say that decrease in market share from more than 60% to 30 % is not the first sign that it has started dying, then so be it. its ur opinion.
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- Anonymous
- f3B
- 04 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 04 Feb 2011"Symbian users are increasing globally. Check the numb... morehi
mmmm now i think u have overtook Elder in terms of being Nokia's top critic.
It's not bad tho,some points u make have sense but u must know every thing has it's pros & cons.
Btw,predictin the future is quite complex,somehow i think critics like u r afraid of new things like Meego,but u must know that even some nokia fans like myself,when i 1st heard of Meego,i was afraid just like u.I was afraid of some change that Meego will bring.But change is inevitable & the market is ready 4 that change.The product is just about 2 b launched &people like u r already having nightmares.ha its life &Meego will bring a change that will make our lives more better than it is today.Not every1 is a geek,but 4 those who r like me,r excited by just the endless possibilities that Linux can do.Meego is founded on Linux which makes is a perfect OS 2 play with.
Nokia made a clever decision 2 build upcoming Symbian^4 OS on Qt.Meego also support Qt,¤t S^3 device have Qt.So Meego & Symbian devices will share this common platform that developers can make apps with ease & deploy once across on all Qt devices. It's so funny how critics like u keep dreaming of Symbian's death,the truth is Symbian OS will grow,as the entire system is 2b based on Qt,S^3 will be updated to S^4 thru software updates & end user experience will continue 2 improve.Nokia is very good at providing Software updates worldwide.Symbian devices will be affordable 2 the majority & Meego devices r likely 2b expensive as they will b targeted at top class level.It's something 4 every1.
Meego & Symbian will co-exist & as a tag team Nokia will continue 2 lead in the mobile telecommunications sector.
If big companies like BMW used 2 make 3series,5series & 7series sedan cars.Then they decide 2 start making 4x4 cars & name them 'x5' and make small cars & name them '1series'.Did the company lose or gain market share,guess u can find out!Let me educate u 'A more diversified product portfolio has more benefits than a single portfolio-simple economics.'
You can criticise all you want but change is around the corner,Meego is coming with the winds of change.Nokia's shares are already rising - guess even investors r speculating about this new kid.
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- jFF
- 04 Feb 2011
Anonymous, 04 Feb 2011N8 rocks....:) http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/nokia-re... moreno one care for bad site engadget,, if you love .engadget then why you visit here !!!! you not trust gsmarena !!!! GET OUT FROM HERE
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- Some guy from Greece
- HBm
- 04 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 04 Feb 2011"Symbian users are increasing globally. Check the numb... more"the word i used is "market share" NOT "number of users". they are different.let me give u an example"
The word you used was death:
"symbian is moving toward its death"
and grow:
"android has grown 615 % from last year."
The, so called, dying Symbian is growing too... Weakening is the right word and is way different that die
"now nokia wants to have a bigger tower, so what does it do? it builds a completely new tower from scratch, instead of making symbian bigger.
does that behaviour make sense? "
So does Google with Adroid 3.0... They built a new platform (that will end up in future phones) from scratch (only the name is the same). Does Google's behavior make sense?
I think both companies are moving forward. Not cause they have failed. Both are increasing their customers, both are successful at selling better number of what they built. They just move forward, investing their profits in new products as every other company does...
About market share it is said before. 125 new Adroids in 2010, 18 Symbians. Average Symbian device can easilly be considered more successful than average Android.
Now why those 125 chose Adroid? Because Google offers support on it and this saves money from the manufactures. Nokia just gave them Symbian and that was it... They didn't chose it cause it was better but because it came with free support from it's mother company.
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- AnonD-291
- vGA
- 04 Feb 2011
Mac, 04 Feb 2011I must say, the Honeycomb looks very sweet. BTW, the Meego ... moreYeah, im also waiting to see what nokia has to offer in tablet platform.
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- vGA
- 04 Feb 2011
Some guy from Greece, 04 Feb 2011"anyway symbian is moving toward its death. symbian ma... more"Symbian users are increasing globally. Check the numbers"
the word i used is "market share" NOT "number of users". they are different.let me give u an example
suppose in year 1 there are 2 symbian users & 1 android user. so symbian market share = 66.6%
year 2 there are 3 symbian users and 2 android user.
therefore symbian market share = 60%
there you can see how number of users are increasing but market share is decreasing.
"Should Nokia or it's customers stop pursuing better products and services because the present crop is already very good? Because if that's the case, then Googole should dumb Adroid 3.0 because Adroid 2.3 is already very good - does it make sense"
actually it doesnt. if symbian has everything then nokia should build on that instead of making an entirely new OS from scratch (which runs on different platform, different phone, different apps and functionalities etc)
while android is improving upon itself, is nokia trying to improve by making a new OS ?
let me give u another example
there are two large towers with strong foundation, and which can be made bigger.
one tower is android and other one is symbian.
lets assume that symbian tower has all facilities etc
now nokia wants to have a bigger tower, so what does it do? it builds a completely new tower from scratch, instead of making symbian bigger.
does that behaviour make sense?
there may be two reasons for such decision. either nokia likes wasting money or our assumption is wrong i.e. symbian tower has many drawbacks that nokia is forced to build new tower to stay in the race. similar to windows making wp7.
you may argue saying that symbian and meego may co exist peacefully. but that is never going ti happen. there is no room in the market for 4 major OSes . two of them have to die and one (or both) have to be from Nokia.
two os from nokia will just compete with each other and become counter productive for Nokia.
(sorry if examples I gave are too confusing I couldn't think of better one)
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- Anonymous
- t7X
- 04 Feb 2011
[deleted post]uhm, the update section? Well, we already knew that from other sites like mynokiablog EARLIER than gsmarena picking it up.
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- Mac
- fuH
- 04 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 04 Feb 2011Yes, much more than that :) http://www.youtube.com/watch... moreBTW, why the similar TRON theme??? Did you take notice that it was kind of very similar???
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- Mac
- fuH
- 04 Feb 2011
AnonD-291, 04 Feb 2011Yes, much more than that :) http://www.youtube.com/watch... moreI must say, the Honeycomb looks very sweet. BTW, the Meego video is more than 6 months older than the android version (And the guy mentiones that it is a Beta version). The Meego OS would have undergone some drastic changes from then to now but anyway, android tablet OS is nice, very nice. I want to see the Meego version before I decide which one to get(The main reason why the android version was so good was because it is a finished product and the nice eyecandy which Meego obviously had not incorporated into the OS by that time). Anyway, excuses aside, the wait should not be for much longer....
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- AnonD-695
- tug
- 04 Feb 2011
Anonymous, 04 Feb 2011N8 rocks....:) http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/nokia-re... morean update is still better than nothing. Unlike some android products left in the cold out there......