New Apple iPad Pro 10.5 and 12.9 debut

05 June 2017
The new 10.5-inch and 12.9-inch tablets come with powerful hardware upgrades and exclusive new iOS 11 features.

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There is really no one to compete in their price/performance field. And with half tera GB... This looks more interesting than S3 or Z4, maybe they got some premium features, but new ipad is premium as whole. Closest one is new surface pro, but just being close. There is just one hope in android world, nokia.

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    • Sinsofmobiles
    • nw}
    • 06 Jun 2017

    Surface Pro is far more beneficial than this.
    The Ipad is no more relevant people needs something that is more innovative than simply tablet that costs the world.

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      • Anonymous
      • uJD
      • 06 Jun 2017

      viveksubhash, 06 Jun 2017I don't understand.. Are you saying that samsung is not pac... moreAnd spend your time doing move2sd? And cry to developers who do not use that function?

      No thanks. Yes, I hated Samsung getting away with low internal storage getting life support from slut slots.

      Samsung Tab S3 is not exactly cheap you know, and they stick a 32gb into a premium tablet... zzzz

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        • NiJon
        • Ld5
        • 06 Jun 2017

        viveksubhash, 06 Jun 2017Having a file manager access means a regular user can drag ... moreBut haven't cloud storage options more or less taken care of the need for file managers? What about streaming services, most, if not all allows for offline download use - so again whats the probem? love or hate Apple - but the company have created so many usecases that has eliminated "old" tech - except for the jack, huge misstep there... :D

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          • NiJon
          • Ld5
          • 06 Jun 2017

          Anonymous, 06 Jun 2017Lack of file manager proper video plates, useless aspect ra... moreIf you want those features.. buy a PC.. The most common usecase for a tablet is multimedia entertainment. And the iPad excels at that.

          I dont give a flying cow for file managers and aspect ratios, if the general tablet experience is top notch. If I'm going to invest in a tablet, I, as a customer, wants some guarantees that the product I purchase, delivers the both on hardware and software. And as much as I want an android tablet, I just know, based on what I'm going to use it for, is literally sh*t. Compared to the entertainment value given by the iPad.

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            • Anonymous
            • 6jr
            • 06 Jun 2017

            NiJon, 06 Jun 2017As much as I would like to agree with you - Android upscale... moreLack of file manager proper video plates, useless aspect ratio kills the tablet experience. I had an iPad for 5 years (iPad 2, then iPad 4, then Air 2). If I used social apps I would agree. Since I don't Apple is ages back. Only lately they have put proper multitasking (iOS 11)...

            Up until IOS 11 they were stuck to 2011

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              • Anonymous
              • 6jr
              • 06 Jun 2017

              NiJon, 06 Jun 2017As much as I would like to agree with you - Android upscale... moreAndroid never upscaled, can't upscale. Every rendering is happening natively.

              About half of the most used apps have a tablet ui version (if that's what you meant by not upscaling). Notably missing is the social apps because ... Apple

              YouTube has a tablet version, maps, gmail, pretty much most/all google apps. Microsoft apps too, most news aggregator. Social apps are missing. Something is fishy ... Or rather Appley

                Great hardware no doubt. Fast processor, great display and a proper drawing stylus.

                Unfortunately hamstrung by a closed, limited and dumbified OS. And the prices are ridiculously high to be honest. 10000 USD for something running an OS as limited as iOS is daylight robbery to be honest, despite the quality of the hardware.

                Get a surface pro 4 and you can do every thing you could have done on an ipad plus a thousand more things that are beyond the capabilities of an ipad. And the windows 10 being not optimized for touch issue is overrated and overstated. I can use it perfectly fine without a keyboard and mouse and do pretty much everything I can on any tablet. If you have thick sausages for fingers, you might have a problem. Regular users like me will not.

                Lastly, would LOVE to see this chipset running android. A much more capable OS than iOS and comes with proper file access. Will never happen i know.

                  NiJon, 06 Jun 2017As much as I would like to agree with you - Android upscale... moreHaving a file manager access means a regular user can drag and drop content to the tablet with ease... I would say that the avg user will find that more useful that dragging it to the specific app in the itunes.. That is if it doesn't accidentally clean up the whole thing while "syncing"
                  As an ipad pro user i bought it for content consumption on a larger screen after a nexus 7..imagine my astonishment when met with a rudimentary mxplayer... Aaah the horror... Then with the bootloops unresponsive touch screen runaway battery.... I sometimes wish i went for a surface instead...
                  And as far as scaling goes most standard apps do have tab versions on android.. And I'd pick a full version app over a beautiful app anyday...
                  On a side note reading on the ipad is a pleasure.. Recommended for the bookworms like me

                    Anonymous, 06 Jun 2017512GB omg..... Seems like Samsung cannot rely on life suppo... moreI don't understand.. Are you saying that samsung is not packaging enough native storage? Hmm i always thought it to be a very flexible option buy a cheaper tablet or phone now and invest in a large sd card later on.. Its much better than paying a premium for storage that is unnecessarily fast and pricey

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                      • NiJon
                      • Ld5
                      • 06 Jun 2017

                      Anonymous, 05 Jun 2017Android does not have a limited amount of tablet apps. Only... moreAs much as I would like to agree with you - Android upscales almost all apps for tablets.. there is a BIG difference in an app upscaled to fit the screen and an app made for that specific purpose of a tablet..

                      I have no interest in Apple as a whole - but afaik Apple is the only company delivering on hardware/software when it comes to iPad and the "tablet experience"

                      And yes sure.. Access to file managers etc is a nice thing to have.. but the "general/normal" consumer dont give a damn about that - and the starting price for a Z4 tablet, when it launched was equal to that of a laptop - why not just get the laptop instead and have even better features than what the tablet would deliver? (same goes for iPads if it was for the file manager etc.)

                      And yes, I read that you got your tablet on a flash sale, good for you, doesnt change the fact that Apple just simply provides a better experience with tablets..

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                        • NiJon
                        • Ld5
                        • 06 Jun 2017

                        Anonymous, 05 Jun 2017What? I tried to be nice, but you still had to turn on the ... moreWhy are you reading my question as an attack? I just asked, what would be a better OS fit for tablets... I got no interest in Apple as a whole, but you got to admit that Apple, is the only hardware/software based company that actually delivers on both ends when it comes to iPad..

                        So again.. which OS is a better fit for tablets if not for windows with poor touch optimization or android with limited tablet support?

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                          • Anonymous
                          • uJD
                          • 06 Jun 2017

                          Anonymous, 06 Jun 2017expensive very expensive but Nice.. I think the best tablet... more512GB omg..... Seems like Samsung cannot rely on life support sd slots any longer.. and those tiny 32gb models.

                          Those that want the 10.5 better be quick!.. the delivery is pushed back from 4 days to 2 weeks now..

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                            • Anonymous
                            • Fv4
                            • 06 Jun 2017

                            expensive very expensive but Nice.. I think the best tablet around considering I am a Windows Fanatic

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                              • Anonymous
                              • 6jr
                              • 06 Jun 2017

                              AnonD-190141, 06 Jun 2017Both do the same except that one is gimmicky, try again.Does not do the same.

                              One is using Intels with hulking coolers and weight more than 800grams making it impossible to use for extended periods as tablets . The other measures a libre or 1.5 libres (depending on screen size), despite the bigger screen.

                              One has apps designed around high DPI to be easily used with finger. The other is running a desktop based OS that is designed around mouse and keyboards and touch is an afterthought.

                              One has 10+ hours of screen on time, the other barely lasts 6 hours.

                              One has at least powerful content creation software which can in part justify its problems.
                              The other has the best in class content consumption software.

                              So -no- depending on the use you'd buy the right "computer". If you're a designer you're still better of off a 2in1 (most probably). But if you want to do some drawing on the side (and just that) you're better off with the real tablet instead of buying a laptop with touch support.

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                                • AnonD-190141
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                                • 06 Jun 2017

                                Anonymous, 06 Jun 2017One creates contents, the other mostly consumes. How about that?Both do the same except that one is gimmicky, try again.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • 6jr
                                  • 06 Jun 2017

                                  Anonymous, 06 Jun 2017Wrong example. Both, tablet and laptop are computers. Try again.One creates contents, the other mostly consumes. How about that?

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                                    • teX
                                    • 06 Jun 2017

                                    The new iPad pro 10.5 has only one interesting new feature when compared with the previous gen iPad pro 9.7. It is the 120 Hz refresh rate. Other than that there isn't anything exciting to switch from previous gen iPad pro.
                                    As for the iOS 11, I'm looking forward to the new metal 2 api and the new Files app. HEVC support is also a nice feature to have.

                                      Stondec100, 06 Jun 2017Looks good. It's a shame Samsung has failed to release a co... moreAgreed, I miss the Galaxy Note tablets.

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                                        • yVg
                                        • 06 Jun 2017

                                        apple is stupid, Samsung is stupid...
                                        only fone worth a damn is 2 tin cans with string inbetween