BlackBerry KEYone doesn't fare well in comprehensive durability test
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- AnonD-632062
- 3Y1
- 14 Jun 2017
Gluing the screen is such as no-brainer. How could they not have done it?
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- Eske Rahn
- s0B
- 09 Jun 2017
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2017You are wrong. The post right before you explains exactly w... moreI guess the full story lies somewhere in between. This sure isn't a 2014 device, but might well be pretty close to the 2014 original, so without knowing details we can not for sure blame either BB or TCL alone. Even if the original BB had the bad construction design, TCL could have improved it... e.g. with modest usage of adhesive.
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- Anonymous
- GwM
- 09 Jun 2017
AnonD-422306, 09 Jun 2017No mate, they've licensed TCL to design and produce the har... moreYou are wrong. The post right before you explains exactly where KEYone came from. It was a BlackBerry internal design that goes back three years.
Short lived DTEK and everything after KEYone will be TCL designed, but KEYone was getting a product out the door that was years in the making.
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- Eske Rahn
- s0B
- 09 Jun 2017
Fayth, 09 Jun 2017touch sensitive keyboard, now that's innovationYeah, sounds like contradiction in terms. The Priv has it too, and it is actually a nice way to e.g. select suggested words, without moving the fingers from the keyboard during typing.
To me the Priv make sense, as the keyboard does not take up any of the surface area when not in use. Slide out the keyboard at you still have the full display area for typing mail/sms/...
The keyone physical design is not so smart. Sure you get the physical feedback when pressing a key, but at a cost of a low screen to body ratio.
To be a bit evil the Keyone design is like having your software keyboard always on...
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- AnonD-656940
- k3B
- 09 Jun 2017
Well, that's disappointing. I'll still buy the phone, but still a little disappointing to hear anyway.
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- AnonD-422306
- jCb
- 09 Jun 2017
Nate650, 09 Jun 2017That is incorrect. The KEYone was the last BlackBerry desi... moreNo mate, they've licensed TCL to design and produce the hardware of the phone, RIM is now only a software developer company that specializes in security software.
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- Anonymous
- IkM
- 09 Jun 2017
Nate650, 09 Jun 2017That is incorrect. The KEYone was the last BlackBerry desi... moreCorrect. KEYone was originally called Vienna and in design since summer of 2014 (picture here: https://fscl01.fonpit.de/userfiles/6970559/image/Nov15/BlackBerry-vienna-05-w782.jpg). It was supposed to be the successor to Passport which was released in Fall 2014. When Passport was a failure and BlackBerry's hardware division completely collapsed, Vienna was put on the shelf. It was resurrected once the Android transition was completed (at this point all BB10 developers were laid off, BB10 put into maintenance mode only with no new features), and renamed Mercury. (Note: at this time, BlackBerry was already outsourcing builds to Foxconn, but still designing in house). Mercury received many in-house iterative updates in its design language until late 2016, when the hardware division was completely gutted and the TCL deal was reworked. There was a four month period in late 2016-early 2017 where Mercury's design was transitioned over to TCL (mostly overhead from bureaucracy, converting diagrams, refining manufacturing process). Mercury was reached finalized form in early 2017; the past five months have been waiting for BlackBerry's new outsourced software team to get Android working. When two deadlines were missed, BlackBerry just said eff it, and released out what little inventory they already had built as final product, before they missed the entire Summer of 2017 reporting period.
So this is a phone that has been in development since 2014. It was entirely BlackBerry designed (whatever that even means with all the layoffs and gutting of the company is left for the reader to decide) in terms of design language. This is the final phone that carries that distinction (and even predates DTEK, which was a short-lived, now defunct product which was a re-branding of Alcatel phones).
Future "BlackBerry" phones will be rebranded Alcatel kind of like DTEK was, but that project is currently being re-evaluated for sustainability. DTEK 60 was already dropped after 8 months; this last Memorial Day sale got rid of inventory (which was the first and only batch made). DTEK50 still exists only because it has sold even worse than DTEK60; once inventory is finally sold, the product will disappear as well. If DTEK project returns, it will be under a different, more marketable name. But I suspect at this point, BlackBerry will release one or two more rebranded phones before the end of the year, and then throw in the towel to double down on QNX in the automotive segment, which they are also staring to lose.
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- Nate650
- T2%
- 09 Jun 2017
Eske Rahn, 08 Jun 2017You do know that they are NOT designing&producing the d... moreThat is incorrect. The KEYone was the last BlackBerry designed in-house.
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- AnonD-163230
- Dhk
- 08 Jun 2017
Eske Rahn, 08 Jun 2017You do know that they are NOT designing&producing the d... morethanks for Clarification
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- tonez210
- IVB
- 08 Jun 2017
Next batch of the phone. They will put adhesive on it. Problem solved! Don't condemn too much. It's still the only phone with physical keyboard on the market that is good ok! but, I will only condemn about the price. It is so freaking expensive for a sd625 phone!
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- AnonD-234961
- ndn
- 08 Jun 2017
I actually can see this as a positive. I can easily replace a cracked screen on my own, without paying a repair shop.
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- Anonymous
- UD{
- 08 Jun 2017
reason why the screen popped out easily is because of the keypad, that screen is not attached on a solid end of the phone, if you are a tech-savy person you would understand that, the phone itself is good and presentable, this is coming from a non-BB user
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- AnonD-368020
- YTY
- 08 Jun 2017
Other than the screen adhesive issue, rest of the phone is pretty solid. I am sure This issue will be fixed shortly.
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- Eske Rahn
- s08
- 08 Jun 2017
AnonD-163230, 08 Jun 2017RIM will be RIP after this videoYou do know that they are NOT designing&producing the devices any more, right? They have licensed it off, and is now software only. So the only thing hardware wise of the Keyone that is BB is the logo...
That said, it sure is bad news that it seems to be so fragile. Not exactly something that looks like a daily driver, and as BB usually appeal to the business segment, this could well be scaring the last ones away too.
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- AnonD-163230
- Dhk
- 08 Jun 2017
RIM will be RIP after this video
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- AnonD-510098
- 3Ja
- 08 Jun 2017
FLOP!
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- Eske Rahn
- s08
- 08 Jun 2017
AnonD-643613, 08 Jun 2017Why should anyone buy a BlackBerry now? Its just another ge... moreYou might have managed to overlook it (quite hard though...), but the array below the display is not decoration but a keyboard...
So for those that want a real keyboard there are currently NO alternatives to BB.
(it seems like a qwerty for the Moto-Z series should be available soon though)
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- Anonymous
- R5f
- 08 Jun 2017
All that phones is not Nokia
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- Kaysun
- vGV
- 08 Jun 2017
Why nobody tried a sledge hammer on that and say "IT BROKE UNDER HAMMER"? I'm not a BB lover but I can't understand why many loathe the name. Has anyone found a phone with a physical keyboard and a metal body that's scratch proof under a sharp knife tip? If so please post it here. And some people call these "endurance test". Quite laughable.