Counterclockwise: looking back at the ever growing CPU core count of mobile chipsets

30 July 2017
Do you remember the first dual-core phone? Or the first phone to reach 2GHz?

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Eske Rahn, 30 Jul 2017"the RAZR i XT890 (one of the early superminis)" NO, your ... moreI think they were referring to the size and thinness

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    AnonD-672407, 30 Jul 2017Galaxy S4 wasn't exactly an octa core. Only 4 of those core... moreThe Exynos in the S1, S2, Note 2 all had better gpu's.
    And in the Note and S6 had slightly weaker ones but had better sustained less throttled performance for better overall graphics.
    And now the S8 has better graphics.
    Not to mention pretty much having the better could in almost every generation. Having better audio in all except maybe the S2.

    And in almost every generation has been more power efficient.
    And no the s7 Exynos processor is stronger than S810.
    So no. Not every generation of snapdragon has been so superior.
    And there are many good reasons samsung uses exynos

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      • JxV
      • 30 Jul 2017

      I opened the article, it seemed interesting from the headline. A headline likes that need graphics to show the growth in power. Only words mean an empty weak article. Keep it in mind for the future.

        Simon, 30 Jul 2017I'd love for someone to make a perfectly balanced, low volt... moreWell said

          Instead of this race to get multi core chipsets out at higher clock speeds, even I think better performance per core even though clocked lower should be the norm. Still wonder when will people stop using benchmarks as a guide to know how a phone performs! Deca core in Android world but Apple still able to compete via dual core structure so far! The way things go even SD835 seems outdated in 2 years from now.

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            • 30 Jul 2017

            Simon, 30 Jul 2017I'd love for someone to make a perfectly balanced, low volt... moreif that change has to become true then all companies have to adopt that approach, that to at the same time
            Else the co. that went for better battery will suffer in sales

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              • 0xL
              • 30 Jul 2017

              I'd love for someone to make a perfectly balanced, low voltage and lower clocked processor that favors sustained performance and battery life. What worries me is that people read mobile phone chipset benchmarks same way they do desktop parts - which stimulates manufacturers to instead tune the silicon to tops of its performance, even if it's way off the perf/watt curve, because otherwise people would look at benchmarks and say it's slow :-(

              Imagine a Galaxy S9 with a SLOWER chipset than the S8. Even if it meant double the battery life, people would lose their minds.

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                • r7b
                • 30 Jul 2017

                Oh geez. NetBurst. I still have a Pentium 4 @3.06GHz. Soooo noisy and so hot. I hope no OEM will ever do that mistake again. Anyways, still using a dual-core phone. The difference is huge between dual and quad-core.

                  I thought Nvidia was the first to use an odd number of cores. Didn't they have a, forgot if it was dual core or quad, that also had a hidden single core?

                    Also make a version of how efficient did these SoCs became for years.
                    As of now, Sony has the best cooling system with the already excellently efficient SD835. The large graphite heat sink is just awesome. It spreads the heat to the whole device instead of concentrating it on just one part.

                    And what about Huawei SoCs? The Kirin 960 is very good for such a less efficient structure. It's pretty much still on par with the latest ones from Qualcomm, Samsung, and Apple. The Kirin 970 with 10nm FinFET manufacturing process paired with the superb UFS 2.1 memory and Huawei's good software and optimization would make an overhaul performance killer.

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                      • mgK
                      • 30 Jul 2017

                      "Recently, hexa-core designs became very popular in the mid-range. They offer a couple of big cores for fast single-thread performance, plus four little cores for low-power operation and multi-threaded boost. We think it offers a great balance of price, power and battery life and we'd love to see more of those."

                      I can completely agree. Everybody should stop making vastly underpowered 8 core A53 CPUs. They should have never existed. Even a € 50 phone should have at least 1 A7X and one A5X. If it's not like that, you'll have a good time waiting for everything to finish loading.

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                        • 30 Jul 2017

                        Galaxy S4 wasn't exactly an octa core. Only 4 of those cores could run at a time. What made the performance fairly equal was the A15 cores being better than the Krait 300. Regardless, Adreno 320 was easily the better gpu. Samsung needs to stop using exynos on its international models. Any legitimate benchmark (like 3dmark) will prove how much slower the exynos version gpus are, even today. Galaxy S7 had the gpu performance of a snapdragon 810 v2.1 (the overclocked 430) with the exynos version while the snapdragon 820 one had the raw adreno 530 power.

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                          • 30 Jul 2017

                          That Toshiba TG01 is by far the wors t phone I've ever had,it's no wonder it totally bombed,and then with the exact same chip set,HTC came out with still the best phone yet,the legendary HD2,there are more powerful phones now,but none of them come close to what you can get an HD2 to do..

                            XBR, 30 Jul 2017Man in 5 years the snapdragon 835 be outdated & slow as hellAnd 1/2.5" 12mp f1.7 OIS camera with 1.4um pixel size and Google's HDR+ processing be extremely mediocre for even entry level devices.

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                              • LaT
                              • 30 Jul 2017

                              Man in 5 years the snapdragon 835 be outdated & slow as hell

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                                • nWF
                                • 30 Jul 2017

                                What the article fails to mention is that razr i had an excellent battery life

                                  AnonD-18725, 30 Jul 2017The Tegra 3 also used an odd number of cores - 5 in fact wi... moreI forgot about that! An early big.LITTLE type arrangement, it was ahead of its time.

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                                    • AIA
                                    • 30 Jul 2017

                                    This is good news for hippies

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                                      • 30 Jul 2017

                                      The Tegra 3 also used an odd number of cores - 5 in fact with the 1 being a low power idle core for the operations

                                        Eske Rahn, 30 Jul 2017"the RAZR i XT890 (one of the early superminis)" NO, your ... moreEh, the Galaxy S III (4.8") came out in mid-2012, the RAZR i (4.3") was in late 2012; the Xperia arc/ray are from 2011.

                                        I think the typical 2012 Android flagship was around 4.7-4.8 inches, so 4.3" qualifies as "mini" (much more than some of the current quote-unquote minis).