Counterclockwise: making everything wireless

24 September 2017
Wireless charging, headphones, data, the sky is the limit.

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  • AnonD-1046991
  • G}R
  • 18 Jun 2022

AnonD-632062, 25 Sep 2017True the S5 is not waterproof (careless wording on my side,... moreI know, never buy every "tough" mobile phone contain fake-manufactured IP protection

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    • AnonD-1046991
    • G}R
    • 18 Jun 2022

    Dino, 26 Sep 2017Everything become wireless means we are always surrounded b... moreWifi can "penetrate your body" is just proved to be harmful myth theories.

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      • Kangal
      • uCX
      • 28 Sep 2017

      AnonD-345931, 25 Sep 20171. Stock android is sh!t. For 500$, we need exclusive UI wi... more1) I rather a "sh!t" OS, and actually design it with my own Launcher, Theme, Icons, Fonts, Wallpapers, etc etc. Also $499 is now deemed "cheap" thanks in-part to Samsung's and Apple's price rises as well as other players like Huawei and OnePlus.

      "Exclusive UI" have proven themselves time and time again to be very very slow to upgrade and maintain, and overall not very impressive.

      2) pOLED and SAMOLED are identical. They both use an Active Matrix sublayer, so both OLED panels can achieve a "infinite contrast". I don't know where you got your misinformation from.

      3) I get it, I prefer 5.7inch screens. However, 5.2 inches seems to be good enough for me, so it will be good enough for you. And that size seems to be the most preferred size by the general public which have smaller hands.

      4) Smaller bezels AND 16:9 AND front speakers = winning

      5) I agree, but its possible to stop bootloops with the power button and implementing the kernel/bootloader properly (ahem LG G3). The sealed backplate is the norm now, and I've grown to not hate it, you will too. It does help with water proofing.

      6) Try it. Its a very good design choice. I propose having different textures on the buttons to give that tactile-feedback in the dark.

      7) Fingerprint reader to remain in back, until Qualcomm's under-display fingerprint scanner is cheap enough and mass produceable (ie/ 2018).

      8) Yes, for phones priced under $300 where they come with less storage and slower eMMC storage. More expensive phones >$500 should come with the USF 2.0 storage and come with plenty of it (64GB or 128GB's)... no need for the slow microSD for the majority

      Cheers buddy!
      You might want to change your Username since the Arya incident : )

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        • Kangal
        • uCX
        • 27 Sep 2017

        AnonD-632062, 25 Sep 2017True the S5 is not waterproof (careless wording on my side,... moreThanks for your reply.
        I stated my opinion/facts after first-hand seeing a Galaxy S5 die from internal water damage by a drop in the toilet. Granted, I wouldn't want to use a toilet-laden phone, but it is what it is.

        The S5 cannot handle a swim in a pool, let alone a murky riverbed.
        The S7, S8, LG G6, and iPhone 7 can.
        The MIL-STD means nothing special. And not all IP67 devices are equal, as the definition for IP67 and IP68 differ from one manufacturer to another.

        With that said, the S5 is actually water resistant, however it is not as water resistant as today's devices. I suspect it is because of a combination of the water resistant proofing around the buttons, ports, and the font glass of new devices. The S5 didn't have that. And the S5 also had a removable backplate which wasn't protected. You can test these claims out yourself if you wish, although it won't be cheap.

        If you want something MORE water resistant/proof... you need a design similar to the iPhone 7 and actually coat the internal electrical components with a super-hydrophobic substance, and perhaps design a drain reservoir for anything that could make its way inside. Such a phone hasn't been done yet, to my knowledge, but it is possible yet expensive.

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          • Anonymous
          • UD{
          • 26 Sep 2017

          I'm actually waiting for the time when they will invent sharing of battery bars wirelessly? hahahaha

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            • Dino
            • Jay
            • 26 Sep 2017

            Everything become wireless means we are always surrounded by electromagnetic waves. Imagine if we can see these waves by our naked eyes?
            Imagine, if Wifi can penetrate our body, and where do the male mostly keep the phones ???

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              • AnonD-361356
              • AJj
              • 26 Sep 2017

              Actually Samsung Pay doesn't work on NFC completely.. It also uses MST

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                • AnonD-345931
                • XQP
                • 25 Sep 2017

                Kangal, 25 Sep 2017While I agree with you on all fronts, the Samsung Galaxy S5... more1. Stock android is sh!t. For 500$, we need exclusive UI with useful functionality, all the while, maintaing the fluidity of the stock.

                2. P-OLED diesn't offer infinte contrast. There's no pure black. So SAMOLED all the way.

                3. Personally, I can't type properly on any phone smaller than 5.5. And 1080p is ok. But HDR is a must.

                4. I never cared about smaller bezels. Just keep the aspect ration a 16:9

                5. Removable battery for phone longitivty and ease of escaping from bootloop.

                6. I prefer not to confuse my volume button with the power button. So on different sides.

                7. I prefer the fingerprint sensor to be on the front.

                8. Memory card slot for cheaper storage expansion.

                Rest of the specs are ok, though.

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                  • Lumialover
                  • 7k6
                  • 25 Sep 2017

                  U forget to mention cortana..

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                    • AnonD-632062
                    • 3Ye
                    • 25 Sep 2017

                    Kangal, 25 Sep 2017While I agree with you on all fronts, the Samsung Galaxy S5... moreTrue the S5 is not waterproof (careless wording on my side, since no mainstream phone is waterproof without a dedicated tight case). It is water-resistant.

                    But as a person who has been following the history of water-resistant phones for a long time, and as a person who has tested the Galaxy S5 in seawater and seen it live to tell the tale, you are wrong about the S5 on all other fronts. First of all, circa 2014, there were very few flagships that were water-resistant.

                    Around 2013, only Sony was the major smartphone maker that made water-resistant flagships. It's Xperia Z had flaps on all ports (SIM, microSD, USB and 3.5mm headphone jack), and it had a non-removable battery. Yet it had an impressive for it's time IP57 rating.
                    http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php

                    As you can see, the technology for waterproofing an open port hadn't made it to mainstream smartphones in early 2013.

                    Then Sony released the Z1 in 2013 and the Z2, which bumped up rating to IP58. And now the 3.5 mm headphone jack was exposed too, although the other ports were still covered.
                    http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-5596.php
                    http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z2-6144.php

                    And then came the awesome S5 in 2014, which was pretty unique. Not only was it's 3.5 mm headphone jack uncovered, it features an IP67 rating. In early 2014. That too with a removable battery. And thanks to that design it could also support Dual SIM and a dedicated SD card without need for any additional exposed ports on the frame. To many, this was outstanding, especially for it's time. Mind you, even today's iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X and the HTC U11 have the same IP67 of the S5. And all of them don't have removable batteries nor the 3.5 mm headphone jack.
                    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php

                    It was only in 2015, with the Sony Xperia Z3+, that a flagship could boast of a water-resistant and exposed flap-less USB port. By now, many phones like the S7, S8, Note8, V30, G6 etc. have IP68 and flap-less USB port.

                    So your comment that "Even sealed, it [The S5] offered very little ingress protection compared to today's IP68 devices" is pretty invalid.

                    Also I know, if someone tries, they can easily make an IP68 MIL-STD rated device with removable battery and flap-less ports, to improve upon the S5, that was released three and a half years ago.

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                      • kutsa
                      • 3T5
                      • 25 Sep 2017

                      I am interested if wireless connection is harmful for health or not. Is there any study done for this or any information, anybody?

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                        • AnonD-546033
                        • Snu
                        • 25 Sep 2017

                        AnonD-702396, 24 Sep 2017Then prepare to get a thick phone. There's not enough space... moreIf it is slimmer, then 11 mm, it is ok

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                          • Kangal
                          • uCX
                          • 25 Sep 2017

                          AnonD-632062, 24 Sep 2017Not necessarily, even though I am fine with a 10-14 mm thic... moreWhile I agree with you on all fronts, the Samsung Galaxy S5 was not waterproof.
                          It was water-resistant and required flaps on its ports.
                          Even sealed, it offered very little ingress protection compared to today's IP68 devices.

                          With that all said, I think the "Best Phone" is actually careful compromise between your theoretical "perfect phone", something feature-cutdown like the "iPhone", and at a balanced value/bargain "cheap phone".

                          I think the "best phone"/compromise is something like:
                          - US $499 Unlocked
                          - Stock Android (rootable, bootloader unlockable, access all kernels, drivers, documentation)
                          - Quick monthly updates (within 50 days release) and 3 years upgrade to 3-major revisions
                          (eg/ 6.0.1 shipped -> 7.0 major -> 7.1.1 minor -> 8.0 major -> 8.1 minor -> 9.0 major)
                          - p/S/AM-OLED 5.2 inch 16:9 1080p Display
                          - 85.1% Screen to Body (bezel) Ratio
                          - 127 x 69mm's phone size
                          - 8.9mm's ("thick" by todays standards, okay for average folks)
                          - 6,000mAh fast-charging battery
                          - flat back, front, and sides, no camera hump
                          - Optimum impact absorption, with Glass Protector choice
                          - Sealed Unibody design (Glass Front. Back-Buttons is Aluminium, Leather, or Polycarb)
                          - IP68 ingress protection without flaps (no warranty for water damage)
                          - Aux jack, USB-C, Lanyard hole on bottom side
                          - Flat clean left side, and top side
                          - Backside houses the camera, led-flash, and fingerprint scanner (or in front, under-display)
                          - Right side with Power button, volume rocker, and Customisable button
                          - Symmetrical design on front, back, and sides (calls can be made upside down!)
                          - Front-firing Stereo Loud speakers like Nexus 5X/ZTE Axon 7
                          - A decent Wide-Angle 8.3MP/4K selfie-front camera
                          - A decent Single Rear Camera
                          >12MP with 240fps high frame rate (IMX 270IMX 398)
                          - 128GB USF 2.0 (no dualSIM / slow microSD)
                          - 4GB LP-DDR4X RAM
                          - QSD 820 (for Q1 2016) or QSD 835 (for Q2 2017)

                          ...basically a phone that's supported like a Pixel, as durable as a Samsung Active, as small as a Xperia Compact, as developer friendly as a Nexus, as high-end as a Galaxy Note, whilst being as affordable as a Xiaomi.

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                            • The publisher
                            • 4Ru
                            • 25 Sep 2017

                            You sound like an apple isheep talking like airpods are the first Bluetooth headsets without a wire between them. Look up Brogi headphones or the much more popular Samsung Gear X. Both were way before airpods and look better.

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                              • AnonD-402029
                              • Hka
                              • 25 Sep 2017

                              i use SHAREit app to transfer file between android phones or android to windows laptop. easy for most ppl, it uses wifi to transfer file, so it is quite fast for most things.

                              i bet there is another app that can do the same but i only use SHAREit.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • Js{
                                • 25 Sep 2017

                                Make " wireless" charging really wireless...
                                All I want...

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • mTn
                                  • 25 Sep 2017

                                  AnonD-702396, 24 Sep 2017Then prepare to get a thick phone. There's not enough space... moreDepending what you call thick. 10mm is not thick to me. Besides we are talking about adding 1 or 2mm. To e.g. have a camera bump or not. The extra mm can and should be used for battery juice.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • mTn
                                    • 25 Sep 2017

                                    AnonD-632062, 24 Sep 2017The perfect phone should have all options (both wired and w... moreFinally one person gets it!

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • mTn
                                      • 25 Sep 2017

                                      "...like sharing web pages and files – rarely see any actual use."

                                      ... Because it hardly works. Yesterday I transferred a bunch of photo's to some friend's galaxy tab s. It worked great between my honor 8 and his samsung device (using wifi direct). Then I tried the same to another friend who has an Acer Z530 or something, and it just wouldn't work. Sending the pics over Bluetooth was crazy (total size about 90MB). Luckily I am tech-savvy and knew how to setup an FTP-server, but that is way too complicated for a noob.

                                      "Of course, the implementation on feature phones over a decade ago was almost comically bad. "

                                      No it was much better than the internet crap of today. Especially in non-english parts of the world. You could at least train your phone to recognise particular words. IMHO a smart phone should first search on the phone locally and THEN on the internet! But all these AI's first go to the net wasting my precious datavolume :-(

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                                        • s7h
                                        • 24 Sep 2017

                                        Wireless charging makes sense. Taking the headphone jack out is stupid.