Counterclockwise: console-quality graphics on phones

05 November 2017
Mobile chipsets rival computer and console parts in complexity, but the promise of console-like graphics never comes true.

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Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018Capitalism is not about healthy competition. Capitalism spu... moreFirst, I didn't tolerate political topics on GSMArena. Second, these comment will be removed immidiately due to violation of GSMArena TOS, here it says at "post your comment": "No politics or religious discussions. Please stick to tech topics here, we will not tolerate posts advocating any political or religious views or causes".

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    • 10 May 2020

    Which manufacturer would be crazy enough to actively cool a smartphone..... ZTE Nubia entered the chat

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      • 09 Apr 2018

      Kangal, 06 Nov 2017Oh, hush stop spreading lies. As someone who had the N-Gag... moreYou are spreading lies. You should stop doing it.

      You couldn't disprove anything in my comment.

        Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018And that's why the QHD and higher screen resolutions on pho... moreSorry, but I disagree, 1080p should be the minimum and the maximum for any smartphone, when you get around the 400ppi count, that's the sweet spot for mobile phones. 720p is just not enough when the screen size crosses 5 inches.

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          • 09 Apr 2018

          Kangal, 06 Nov 2017While I accept your premise; Geekbench sucks comparing diff... moreCapitalism is not about healthy competition. Capitalism spur the exploitation and oppression of other people, poor and unlucky people. Capitalism is mostly about luck. It's about where you were born. Capitalism leads to corporatocracy, planned obsolescence, destroys the earth and humanity.

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            • 09 Apr 2018

            Vineet290, 06 Nov 2017Resolution isn't the end of the world, but it surely affect... moreAnd that's why the QHD and higher screen resolutions on phones are stupid ideas.

            Even 720p screen resolution is perfectly enough for phones.

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              • 09 Apr 2018

              Active cooling is one of the worst ideas for a phone. It's as bad idea as the notch and the non-removable battery.

              The solution is simple. Make phones with metal body (and removable battery), then add heat pipes that transfer the heat from the CPU to the metal body of the phone.

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                AnonD-474824, 05 Nov 2017But can it run CRYSIS... nice one bro :D

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                  • 08 Nov 2017

                  Anonymous, 05 Nov 2017Then your phone will be as thick as a laptop with that cool... moreA good design with small thin sleeves may save us from exceeding the 8mm mark, which is ok ok for a performance flagship.

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                    • 07 Nov 2017

                    I use Samsung Note3.. No problem with all games..work great..GTA,Marvel Future Fight..etc

                      DenisXD, 07 Nov 2017As much as i found the evolution of smartphones exciting, t... morelower manufacturing process means they can pack higher transistor count on the same die area, effectively using less electricity. with lower wattage consumption, also come lower heat output.

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                        • 07 Nov 2017

                        I currently use Android - S7e and frankly, only good games for android are ports / emulators.

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                          • 07 Nov 2017

                          Not going to happen unless they turn smartphones into portable consoles that can be plugged to HDTVs with proper controller support like the Nintendo Switch. Storage limitations is also a major hurdle that must be overcome before people take smartphone gaming seriously.

                          Let's face it. Nobody needs ultra fast SOCs for mobile phones right now. With severely limited touch controls all mobile games are pretty much "doodle worthy".

                            As much as i found the evolution of smartphones exciting, there are factors to be considered in gaming. As you GSM boys said, heat. There is no possible way to reduce the heat from a mobile processor without increasing its width. I have an idea that a mobile manufacturer will make a smartphone with a little hole from the one side to the other, so we can do something for the heat ourselves. Or having heat pipes reaching the outside of a phone like antenna lines do.
                            Something like that would help with the heat a lot. Yeah processors become smaller and smaller but nothing is done for the heat.
                            Undeniably phone manufacturers limit the power of a processor. One plus proved it with the whole benchmark cheat thing, but all they did was to let the processor run with all its cores for longer than others did. So it's obvious they all keep the processors from running at their full power.

                            I wonder how we can get around this.. Time will tell..

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                              • 07 Nov 2017

                              Kangal, 06 Nov 2017While I accept your premise; Geekbench sucks comparing diff... moreNo they can't they are still two, three instructions wide & with small instructions set while SIMD's (even with recent rework A55 - A75) are way behind but they still kick a shit out of Atoms that recently became 4 instructions wide. Arm definitely has enough power to run Linux comfortably and we will see how will things with Windows work out which is entirely on M$. I would love to see just one manufacturer to start respecting silicone limitations as their is no much use of over grown & clocked one that throttles. Want to see arm competing in the ultra portable segment as I certainly think it can with DynamicIQ as let's say hexa A75 with two A55 for simple tasks would map the floor regarding general use & purposes core's rest is pretty much what you wish to accomplish (general & special purpose accelerators along with fixed function ASICS blocks, SDR, IO blocks & RF elements).

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                                • 07 Nov 2017

                                Anonymous, 06 Nov 2017I would give you a nice badge for this comment, if I could.... moreWell Jean Baptiste didn't... It's meant to be open source as it follows included (written) licenses related to used libs which it (sadly) douse not. & Google doesn't give shit either.

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                                  AnonD-558092, 05 Nov 2017The graphics race is dumb. Look at MS and Sony. Xbox One X,... moreHow can anybody say that the Adreno has more performance than the GPU on A10 (or A11 or Tegra or Mali), if there are no useful tools to measure it besides the typical game's benchmarks?

                                  I mean, where are these numbers come from in the first place?

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                                    • 06 Nov 2017

                                    This is hilarious. Phones with bloated benchmarks that fail to account for major differences in terms of the operating system amongst other things do not put them on the same level as a proper gaming machine.

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                                      • 06 Nov 2017

                                      Anonymous, 06 Nov 2017Hardware aside, its all about content. After all, that's ... moreLOL. Good one.

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                                        • 06 Nov 2017

                                        Gaming in mobile is fun. But in PC it is more reliable.