KGI: iPhone 8 demand lower than expected, but iPhone X going strong
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- AnonD-711468
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- 23 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 23 Nov 2017So here you go, your supposed SE successor:
https://m.gsma... moreThose are rumours, there won't be a 4th iphone.
My SE is "their" SE. It will either be 4.7 inches or 4.2 inches. There will be *three* iphones in 2018, mark my words.
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- 23 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 16 Nov 2017Indeed, I know a person working on Apple.
iPhone X line ... moreSo here you go, your supposed SE successor:
https://m.gsmarena.com/iphone_se_sequel_in_q1_next_year-news-28382.php
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- AnonD-711468
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- 16 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 16 Nov 2017As if you are working in Apple. You can live and think that... moreIndeed, I know a person working on Apple.
iPhone X line is the successor of the main iPhone line (it's where most of Apple is working on)
There would be an iPhone X*esque* Plus
And an entry level iphone (iphone "LCD")
I'm telling you how it is, I'm not making conversation. Drop it.
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- imRGZ
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- 16 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 16 Nov 2017Apple aren't serious about any entry device of theirs. They... moreAs if you are working in Apple. You can live and think that iPhone X is a complete overhaul of iPhone 7, but the reality is quite different, right? With iPhone 7 Plus bringing almost 80 pc of iPhone X features, every tech geek/a kid can tell that by just seeing the spec sheet, add new design and few features here and there, and voila, iPhone 7 Plus became iPhone X. iPhone X is just a beta product with beta software, not fully optimized for the screen and its gestures(GSMA said this in their review also) and the only thing that's favorable is its edge to edge display design, that notch not withstanding. I too admire iPhones, but i know what i want, that notch and not so much an upgrade over 7 Plus, made me to avoid this year's iPhones. You may think whatever way you like, but i know what i got with my 7 Plus and what extra i will get if i ever buy an X. It deemed not a big upgrade for me, so 7 plus for another year.
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- AnonD-711468
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- 16 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 15 Nov 2017So what is Apple's entry level phone for the year 2017? App... moreApple aren't serious about any entry device of theirs. They release one every now and then and then nothing.
For example iPad Mini, they released some, then the end...
Nowadays it's iPad (non Pro) . Who knows how many iterations it will get.
iPhone SE
and next year iPhone "LCD"
Similary it was ipod shuffle (back in the ipod days).
Apple *always* do that, it's not my fault that you're too young to remember.
It was like this
iPhone Xx (their main iphone, what non plus models used to be. It gets most development, most long lived line)
iPhone Xx Plus (the plus iteration of *the* iphone)
iPhone "LCD" (budget model, it may be one of, it may have some iterations, who knows)
End of discussion.
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- imRGZ
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- 15 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 15 Nov 2017" entry-level smartphone" aka the new iPhone SE... Lik... moreSo what is Apple's entry level phone for the year 2017? Apple isn't serious about SE that's the reason why it didn't have a successor this year, so how are you expecting it to release a successor in 2018? No matter what you say, X is 7/8 Plus successor. End of discussion. Every one is interested in X is because of its design. Not that it completely new.
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- AnonD-711468
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- 15 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 15 Nov 2017You would have read these lines in the article: "Sitting in... more" entry-level smartphone"
aka the new iPhone SE...
Like I said 3 iphones:
The regular one (iphone X)
The Plus one (XI Plus)
The "cheap one" ("LCD")
Yep, the "entry level" iphone whould be priced at iphone 7 levels ... that tells me nothing. The prices were "upgraded" across the board. BTW this didn't happen to Apple alone. Samsung Notes used to cost around $700 at release date and these days they cost $1000... so -like I said- it's across the board ... it's called price inflation and it tends to happen as years pass.
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- imRGZ
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- 15 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 15 Nov 2017If you read the recent leak , iPhone X is the replacement o... moreYou would have read these lines in the article: "Sitting in between these size-wise, the 6.1" iPhone with an LCD screen will become Apple's entry-level smartphone, expected to be priced from $649-$749(iPhone 8's price range, and in no way a budget range). Its display will be lower-res and thus have a smaller pixel density than its siblings(again just like 7/8 had compared to 7/8 plus)." That's exactly regular iPhone 8's price point, not SE's and you see where 5.8" successor of X stands? Exactly in the middle, price wise and spec wise, clearly indicating which phone is supposedly be replaced by X. Supposed X plus will take present X's place and next gen X takes 8 plus's place and that LCD iPhone 2018 taking regular 8's place(it matches base iPhone price wise and screen pixel count wise). One can find from the pic itself about what is going to replace what. Till now you talked about X being base 7's successor and when countered, you brought SE into the picture. SE is just released for the sake of people still in the need of 4" screens and those who can't afford iPhone 7. SE didn't get a successor in 2017, and it won't get in 2018 also.
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- 15 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 15 Nov 2017iPhone X is the more premium version of 2017's iPhones and ... moreIf you read the recent leak , iPhone X is the replacement of iPhone 7, and iPhone X *big* would be the replacement of iPhone Plus.
There would be a 3rd phone which would their new budget phone (replacement of iPhone SE)
So in short:
iPhone 7/8 -> iPhone X/XI
iPhone Plus -> Iphone XI Plus
iPhone SE -> iPhone "LCD" (budget iphone)
So yes, it is clear that it is the replacement of iPhone 7.
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- 15 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 14 Nov 2017iPhone X was release to replace the iPhone 7 not the 7 Plus... moreiPhone X is the more premium version of 2017's iPhones and it is not at all a replacement for base iPhone as proved by the recent leak:
https://m.gsmarena.com/apple_to_launch_three_new_iphone_xlike_devices_next_year-news-28226.php
And in fact it says next X will be taking 8 Plus' place.
No brand, even Apple, replaces a $649 phone with a $999 phone. So maximum new features X brought are all there in 7/8 Plus, the phone which X is meant to replace. I stand on my opinion that X isn't complete overhaul from last years' iPhone 7 Plus.
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- AnonD-711468
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- 14 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 14 Nov 2017As i already said apart from the screen and Face ID nothing... moreiPhone X was release to replace the iPhone 7 not the 7 Plus. Look at the total dimensions of the device my man...
Apple would replace the Plus model (next year) with an iPhone Xesque design. When it does happen I'll be able to show to you how much (vanilla) iPhone Plus would be dominated as well.
At this junction iPhone X dominates iPhone 7 in pretty much everything though (9 main categories) ... neeeext
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- 14 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 13 Nov 2017No phone ever in the history of phones had more differences... moreAs i already said apart from the screen and Face ID nothing changed drastically between 7 Plus and X. Where i am comparing X with 7 Plus, you are doing the comparison with smaller 7 just to prove your point. Even many reviews pointed out the minute differences between an 8 plus and X. And 8 plus is in fact a 7s plus. Only thing in X's favour is its design. That design is a departure from everything else available right now in iPhones.
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- 13 Nov 2017
AnonD-659932, 13 Nov 2017I was at the apple store the other day getting earpods and ... moreThe notch was intentional and part of Apple's new design language if not it would look like android flagships released in the year and with Apple's motto of being different we can all assume it would be bad for the companies reputation and sales
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- 13 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 13 Nov 2017Vanilla android is not my cup of tea. Other OEM's android s... moreNo phone ever in the history of phones had more differences than between 7 and X. That's not an opinion, that's just fact.
Battery: From bottom to top of the line (50% more in mah)
Screen: From IPS to OLED (far more accurate colours, real blacks)
PPI: from 326 to 458 ppi
BtS ratio: from 65.5% to 81%
Mini Kinect on top (unprecedented tech, won't be around for at least a further 1-3 more years for the rest)
Top camera after years of mediocrity (it tops the Dx0 mark chart)
50% more RAM
CPU/GPU performance: ~40% more on average
Fast Charge, Wireless charge
...and those are just few.
You'd hardly find a phone with *one* such a giant step of the above. And iPhone X had 6-7 of those in one gen ... again, this never happened before. So much change used to happen between 2-3 generations on iphone, *never* on one-fell-swoop.
The last Android that was almost as impressive (for its time) is Note 4 (first QHD OLED, first ultra accurate pen, first Note with top camera, First big.little w 64bit core on android, etc)
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- 13 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 13 Nov 2017Even now android flagships are ahead of iPhone. None of and... moreiPhones don't either (in any appreciable number).
You only hear of such issues on Samsungs and Apples *because* they sell so much. The actual quality of the panel is top of the crop: http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
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- 13 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 13 Nov 2017Nope, vanilla android has no gestures. Also the phone *i... moreEven now android flagships are ahead of iPhone. None of android's OLED screen, excluding Pixel 2 xl of course, had green lines or they didnt freeze during cold temperatures....Apart from that Samsung has been producing some really great screens since S4. And Apple's camera is still little inferior to S8/Pixels/Note 8's.
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- 13 Nov 2017
AnonD-711468, 13 Nov 2017Nope, vanilla android has no gestures. Also the phone *i... moreVanilla android is not my cup of tea. Other OEM's android skins have far more features than what vanilla android has now and those skins had those gestures long before iPhone X. Can you please specify what exactly complete overhaul means? I don't see any vast differences between a 7 plus and X apart from OLED screen and Face ID. Remove those two and what you get in X is just little improvements over 7 Plus. Minor upgrade in camera and little faster processor compared to 7 Plus doesn't mean a complete overhaul for me. As the GSMA's review of X states that it's just a beta product as a typical first gen product.
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- AnonD-711468
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- 13 Nov 2017
imRGZ, 12 Nov 2017What iPhone X brought to the smartphone market isn't new ap... moreNope, vanilla android has no gestures.
Also the phone *is* a complete overhaul from its last gen. I am comparing it with iPhone 7 (gen to gen) not with any random phone.
iPhones were miles and miles below top androids up until last year (in features) and in one move Apple one-ups them ... that *is* a complete overhaul of the series.
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- AnonD-711468
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- 13 Nov 2017
wqcr, 12 Nov 2017Well, iP marketshare is not going to end up higher than 15%... moreIt's like 80% on phones over $800 which is apparently what matters to Apple.
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- AnonD-659932
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- 13 Nov 2017
I was at the apple store the other day getting earpods and had a chance to check it out...
Build quality is amazing, albeit a little heavy and slippery feeling.
The notch is disgusting - they should have made it equal bezels on the top and bottom to even out the design and make swipe gesture more comfortable...you have to reach the very bottom of the phone.
Swipe gestures will take some getting used to but the interface is undoubtedly less intuitive than it was before and that of android.
Should have added a fingerprint sensor to the power button or the apple logo...face id is cool in perfect conditions but a huge pain when it fails(it happens much more often than touch id)
It's a cool phone...but clearly rushed to market and I think v2 will be what this should have been. Def not worth $1000+...