Samsung and Apple under investigation in Italy over planned obsolescence

19 January 2018
Reducing chipset performance via software updates does not sit well with the Competition and Market Authority.

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One country does something weird, for weird reason, and everyone goes crazy... lol...

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    • AnonD-669148
    • 38G
    • 19 Jan 2018

    Not supporting Android updates is planned obsolescence, so Samsung, and every Android manufacturer, is clearly guilty of this crime!

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      • D0H
      • 19 Jan 2018

      ZloiYuri, 19 Jan 2018All you described is usually shitcoding. If any function ne... moreAbsolutely right ..

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        • melvingutierrez
        • Iaq
        • 19 Jan 2018

        I agreed with Italian autority about the planned obsolescene, the best example of this is with the Flagship thas inmediatly theyr release a new one, theyr give a second plane the last year flagship, example the S7 will get android oreo maybe in the middle of sprint of 2018 when google release android P, and ever samsung give more importance to the lasted device thats the last year... and this is improceden!!!! since you pay for a premium device is too complicate have two team thats work parallel with the development of the Os Update of the lasted two principal model?

        the best example of support is thats we see on apple theyr dont priorizate over different device.. and is ridiculus think thats apple do a obsolecence since theyr give support for a lot of year, of course thats you dont will get the same speed and perfomance on one iphone 8 thats the iphone 6 or 6s. but at least you will get the same OS the same day even i can understand thats samsung dont release for all since theyr have a lot a lot of device but fuk why theyr need to take a lot to release a os for a main flagshit of the lasted and current year.

        another example the Beta programs is only focused on yearly main device example note 8/ samsung s8 the S7?? bien gracias!!! damn it

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          • Linas
          • QPU
          • 19 Jan 2018

          Herocoder, 19 Jan 2018I am a owner of Samsung Note 4 since 2014 March. After the ... moreMaybe that was to do with Spectre and Metdown fixes, which are widely known to reduce phone performance significantly. However, there cannot be counted as planned obsolescence, just unfortunate nature of the possible solution. It is said these fixes slows down older iphones by up to 30%..

            AnonD-715936, 19 Jan 2018What are you talking about? Look at old phones from One Plu... morefor how long ?

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              • ZloiYuri
              • Tmf
              • 19 Jan 2018

              Kyo, 19 Jan 2018You didn't understand what I'm trying to say.What I mean is... moreAll you described is usually shitcoding. If any function needed time to time - it gave to run and terminate after job is dome. Memory have ro free after terminate and cash too. Otherwise it's a bad software.

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                • Kyo
                • PEr
                • 19 Jan 2018

                Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018The inability of the hardware to handle new software (with ... moreYou still don't understand.Remember when Samsung used to optimize their chipsets to cheat in benchmarks when the CPU used to work at full power but in real life the CPU used to work slightly less.Thus your point is invalid,the task manager doesn't give any proper detail.Only the one's who wrote the code can really understand and not even some expert quality control guys.

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                  • AnonD-731363
                  • SH3
                  • 19 Jan 2018

                  I hope courts fines them enough to close their bussiness forewer.
                  Its a scam on the people.
                  Chinese brands will never do this because their phones barely gets 1 update :-)

                    I dont think samsung slows down their phones

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                      • AnonD-731363
                      • SH3
                      • 19 Jan 2018

                      Kyo, 19 Jan 2018Every phone slows down after software updates and this has ... moreMan some chinese brands barely gets or receives 1 update so its not possible to slow them. Only Apple and Samsung do more updates to keep up customers with new toys.
                      Soon they will be so greedy they will slow down even an almost brand new devices like half year old.

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                        • AnonD-731363
                        • SH3
                        • 19 Jan 2018

                        Anonymous, 19 Jan 2018These two love to copy each other. Nicely said :-)

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                          • AnonD-731363
                          • SH3
                          • 19 Jan 2018

                          AnonD-664474, 19 Jan 2018Whatever it is, it should've been told by the manufacturers... moreMan thumbs up i agree with u

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                            • Marvin
                            • mAM
                            • 19 Jan 2018

                            I have an S2 running 7.1.2 on Lineage OS and it still works, slow but it works. My Note 3 was slower than the S2 and had worse battery life on Sammy original OS until i switched to Lineage also. It now runs flawlessly and with improved battery life.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • Lec
                              • 19 Jan 2018

                              Kyo, 19 Jan 2018You didn't understand what I'm trying to say.What I mean is... moreThe inability of the hardware to handle new software (with new features) would exhibit itself in CPU being used 100% of the time at maximum clock. Open up task manager (expand view to see performance) on older laptops with newer windows and you will see that.

                              On some smartphones, iPhones in this case, the problem is that CPU is intentionaly limited from reaching its maximum clock (it is downclocked from the stats it had when it was purchased)

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                                • Andrew
                                • 3HR
                                • 19 Jan 2018

                                Kyo, 19 Jan 2018Every phone slows down after software updates and this has ... moreA company should always investigate the performance of updates and inform the user of the consequences giving them the option to upgrade or not.

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                                  • Kyo
                                  • PEr
                                  • 19 Jan 2018

                                  ZloiYuri, 19 Jan 2018They can get access to source code. Judge can order that. T... moreYou didn't understand what I'm trying to say.What I mean is that the OEM can implement a new feature that most people never use but the feature is taxing on older hardware and slows down the phones.Most of the changelog in Android and iOS updates are of no sense to 99% of users.Yes that's true these people just get happy when their theme is slightly changed by a software update.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • Js%
                                    • 19 Jan 2018

                                    Is it why phones are slower after only 6 months?

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                                      • AnonD-505102
                                      • IWS
                                      • 19 Jan 2018

                                      I don't think Samsung is doing that...
                                      One of my friends has an S6 edge + and it only keeps getting faster with every update..
                                      I personally own a Galaxy J2 (2016) and ot doesn't seem to slow down either...

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                                        • AnonD-94869
                                        • mTw
                                        • 19 Jan 2018

                                        Alooo !!! Investigators !!! Samsung is slowing their device like hell, everyone realized this. My Samsung S6 and Tab S2, after 12-15 month of use, they were almost dead: super lag, block everyday random. I made factory reset, format sd card, all i can. Samsung must be pay for this.

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