Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium arrives with dual cameras and 4K HDR screen
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- Kirk
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- 17 Apr 2018
The only problem I have is the Finger Print Scanners position, it irks me to no end haha, but you can do it SONY!
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- PeterThePanda
- t7x
- 17 Apr 2018
Sam.Smythe, 17 Apr 2018I agree with most of users here giving opinions about the d... moreThe main complaints with Sony is:
1. Poor screen to body ratio.
2. Lack of OIS on their cameras
3. Thickness.
1 and 3 could be remedied by better design and internal construction. All people want is a slim phone and light with good battery life. No one wants to carry a big fat brick.
Unfortunately, Sony is stubborn and sticking with their huge PCBs (with plenty of wasted space) and slapped on batteries, which is no wonder why their phones are thick and fat. Just look at teardown videos to see how massive their PCB is and how much wasted space is on those PCBs. Sony should learn from Apple, Samsung and Huawei and how to design smaller PCBs as well as designing their PCBs around the battery.
Sony is also stubborn about refusing to add OIS to their cameras. Sure, Sony makes great sensors for themselves and other companies but is making poor use of their sensors with mediocre software and poor hardware. OIS is still important for video especially when it comes to 4K.
Sure, their optimization is great, but the average person doesn't just use their phone because it's optimized, they use their phone for plenty of uses like photo taking and carry it around with them, hence they want slim and light phones.
Their stubbornness and refusal to adapt is what is causing them to lose sales.
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- Sam.Smythe
- UDP
- 17 Apr 2018
PeterThePanda, 17 Apr 2018This comment section makes me want to ROFL at how delusiona... moreI agree with most of users here giving opinions about the design. I won't call it ugly. Generic-looking is rather appropriate term. But in modern days like this, the only design that will standout is a clamshell or a slider since there aren't many competitors came with that design previously. Designing a smartphone slab nowadays? Better get prepared to be bashed by people with bad and stinky mouth.
Sticking a keyboard? They'll said you copied BlackBerry and/or Samsung Note Keyboard Cover
Notch? They'll said you copied iPhone X / Essential
Edgeless top? They'll said you copied Xiaomi / Sharp
Curved screen? They'll said you copied Samsung
Stick to previous signature design with reduced bezels? They'll said Sony is dead with old design
Really, I wished the designers came up with another form factor. That way they'll make headlines, sales and shut people's mouths off at the same time. Clamshell? With specs like XZ2 Premium, I don't mind 25 mm thick clamshell phones. ;)
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- Anonymous
- 4IR
- 17 Apr 2018
Sony, go back to the drawing board.....I would start by getting rid of the entire design team. Tech might be world class but I would be too embarrassed to use this phone in public.
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- Present day
- PWa
- 17 Apr 2018
At this pace it doesn't matter anymore sony it doesn't matter how you put things into it they all care about is full screen and battery life.
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- voltaire9
- ybZ
- 17 Apr 2018
Sony,I love you lots but your design team has failed with this new body design.11mm thick???What is this,a Nokia??
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- PeterThePanda
- t7x
- 17 Apr 2018
This comment section makes me want to ROFL at how delusional the Sony herd are. Just proves they're just as delusional if not more delusional than the Apple herd. It's pretty obvious that this phone is a major flop for everyone but the most ardent members of the Herd. A 4K 5.8" screen but LCD = mediocre battery life no matter how much optimization is done. XZ2 and XZ2 Compact are also major thick and fat flops with mediocre battery sizes.
Thicc and phat but mediocre battery size while other manufacturers managed to cram 4,000mAh+ batteries in their phones while being thinner. The lack of a headphone jack is another major flop. Pretty obvious that Sony is stubborn at sticking with its poor PCB design and construction design, with just pasting a giant slab of PCB and then sticking the battery on top. Meanwhile, other manufacturers like Samsung and Huawei are working on making smaller and smaller Logic boards so they can keep the same thickness while having bigger batteries, and designing the PCB around the battery.
Pretty sure, the rabid indoctrinated Sony herd is gonna react negatively to this comment and post endless defenses to desperately defend their dying brand. The only reason Sony Mobile is still alive is because their losses is offset by the profits from PlayStation sales and other divisions.
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- Anonymous
- 38d
- 16 Apr 2018
Anonymous, 16 Apr 2018Say anything you want. But Sony is the king of smoothness.Pixel 2 is the smoothest android experience you will ever see
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- Anonymous
- kAF
- 16 Apr 2018
Tann Hauser, 16 Apr 2018You should ask those app developers why only FHD, not Sony ... moreHow delusional are you dude? You do realize how much bandwidth is consumed in transmission of 4k media? Besides app developers cater to widest audience available, if there's no demand for 4k on mobile, most won't bother with it. For Media providers like Netflix and YouTube this is not a major issue since they don't need to care about users bandwidth and only host the content to their servers, in most of which it's already there for their web apps and TV apps. Why would a game developer go through that hassle of rendering more pixels without any significant gains? In that case won't onus be upon manufacturer to encourage developers to develop apps?
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- No OIS?!
- pvS
- 16 Apr 2018
No OIS for the cameras?!
And wasn't it supposed to have an OLED screen from LG display?
Pity it doesn't use front stereo speakers, and instead uses a weird & asymmetric setup.
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- Anonymous
- kAF
- 16 Apr 2018
Tann Hauser, 16 Apr 2018I dont mind the weight, phablets are not my thang also, but... moreJust because all are ugly doesn't make another ugly device right. Besides see lg v30 and pixels then. None of your described stuff..
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- Tann Hauser
- akv
- 16 Apr 2018
skyfly, 16 Apr 2018Everything was good until I read about the size and the wei... moreI dont mind the weight, phablets are not my thang also, but back design is...like a chunky chew anime with a cripple mutant eye.
Definitely looks like a japanese manga.
Tho, looking at that top competition, with seriously protruding double/tripple lenses, screen notches, ovoid edged screens, this is not "that" bad.
Ugly is a new trend among all...
Cant really pin out anything looking great to me...
All ugly, including new Sony
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- Cary
- mk7
- 16 Apr 2018
Interesting watch that they are unable to add a 4000 mAh battery in an 5.8" 16:9 but it's weight is 240g! And meanwhile they keep this strange design, Samsung has patented a full screen 100% ratio stylish design probably for their next flagships and a notched one probably for some mid range ones. Plus the foldable ones when arrive.
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- skyfly
- n95
- 16 Apr 2018
Everything was good until I read about the size and the weight - another brick in the wall. No, thanks.
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- Anonymous
- 6XU
- 16 Apr 2018
Say anything you want. But Sony is the king of smoothness.
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- Tann Hauser
- akv
- 16 Apr 2018
Anonymous, 16 Apr 2018But whats the point of they advertising 4K phone if the app... moreYou should ask those app developers why only FHD, not Sony why 4k....
Sony gives you best, app developers not the best.
Similarly...Go ask your IPTV provider, why they only provide FHD programs, when you got a shiny new 4K HDR TV.
Maybe those TVs shouldnt be marketed as 4K HDR ha?
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- Anonymous
- 60E
- 16 Apr 2018
Predictive memorys, 16 Apr 2018Personally I think the XZ2 in black color is beautiful than... moreno. i don't
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- Anonymous
- Jai
- 16 Apr 2018
Anonymous, 16 Apr 2018meh you again. sony only improve the thickness and the wei... moreWow, how great are you, really you should be in a very sensitive position!.
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- Anonymous
- n41
- 16 Apr 2018
Predictive memorys, 16 Apr 2018Sony improve many things including the heat dissipation, lo... moremeh you again.
sony only improve the thickness and the weight. the design is ugly. the ui is still the same except the walpaper.
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- AnonD-85136
- 6Ps
- 16 Apr 2018
I always love Sony's products..