Upcoming Snapdragon 1000 might have 12 W TDP, take on Intel directly

07 June 2018
Even the Snapdragon 850 has around 6.5 W TDP. For comparison, an Intel Core i5 or i7 U uses 15 W.

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  • AnonD-356176
  • 7tu
  • 08 Jun 2018

A stock ARM CPU will not offer enough performance To be taken seriously.
Qualcomm needs to stop being a pack of lazy asses and get serious about custom cores, SMT would be a start.

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    • AmyThePerson
    • atC
    • 07 Jun 2018

    I rather just get a regular laptop, One that I can also be more comfortable about most apps being able to run in

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      • AnonD-594740
      • LvJ
      • 07 Jun 2018

      The TDP dont really say much.

      The A7 on the ipad air could reach almost that 12W under special circunstances (7W was the norm though) compared to 3-5W on the iphone 5S. And the kirin 960 also could reach 10W due to bad engineering.
      Was the performance much better on the ipad? Not really, it just have more room to "breath".

      Just wait for actual numbers before assuming it will be comparable to intel "8" gen.

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        • Anonymous
        • i}3
        • 07 Jun 2018

        a 33% fast s850 is still slow though... intel cpus are quite damn fast

          Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018It is awkward/ambiguous wording; as written it seems to sug... morethat's correct
          both CPUs have 8 Threads each. that would mean that If I will view them through the task manager. I will see 8 charts.
          each core in the 8250u and 8550u carries TWO threads. since there are 4 cores in each of the chipsets. 2x4=8.
          it's just a not-exactly-correct phrasing.

            Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018It is awkward/ambiguous wording; as written it seems to sug... moreRight, sorry about that. The 15 W 8th gen Intels have 4 cores, 2 threads each, 8 total (the 8250U and 8550U, anyway).

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              • Razor
              • K2E
              • 07 Jun 2018

              Anonymous, 07 Jun 2018RAW performance might be good, but considering that it will... moreConsidering that this arm powered devices were meant to replace intel atom lineup. Which were entry level chipset which ran netbook and small tablets, I think this will be fine. Microsoft needs to work on the x86 emulation little better and optimized it so It doesn't lose too much performance.

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                • Anonymous
                • 81X
                • 07 Jun 2018

                How are the relative performance estimates drawn? Where do the ultra-low power Core m3/m5/m7 series fit in the picture? I haven't even seen theoretically shipping SD835 vs intel ultrabook comparisons, never mind SD845/SD850/SD1000.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • 81X
                  • 07 Jun 2018

                  Fulljack, 07 Jun 2018I don't think the information provided were wrongIt is awkward/ambiguous wording; as written it seems to suggest that each of the 4 cores handles 8 threads (or 32 threads total) while those of us in the know understand that each of the 4 cores handles just 2 threads, for a per die total of 8 threads.

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                    • aXJ
                    • 07 Jun 2018

                    Finally more choices in the ultraportable department.
                    Win on ARM may not be as fast as native x86 or x64, but not all want performance, some prefer 24/7 connectivity with good battery life. If the pricing is right it might even push Intel to drop the pricing on its units.
                    For the consumer, that's a win/win

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                      • Anonymous
                      • HBy
                      • 07 Jun 2018

                      snapdragon wont be able to go far with that, with their under performing cpus and high prices.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 3EN
                        • 07 Jun 2018

                        RAW performance might be good, but considering that it will emulate x86-64 in most cases it will be behind when compared to native x86-64 chips

                          Andrew, 07 Jun 2018"8250U and 8550U – are rated at 15 W and have four cores wi... moreI don't think the information provided were wrong

                            We're looking at i7 Kaby Lake-R performance with a much higher efficiency. SD845 only consume ~6W but it's a very capable SoC that can take U series i5 heads-on, taking both CPU and iGPU power into account. Meanwhile, Intel's latest U series while claiming 15W TDP can go as much as 42W due to short burst of Turbo Boost, although under stress it'll stay around ~38W. SD1000 will totally be twice a fast as SD845 with 12W TDP, and as Windows 10 on ARM are updated with x86_64 support, and also AMD's new Ryzen U series, Intel's monopoly in ultra mobile laptop area will diminished. All I can see are the future where everyone innovate better technology

                              Interesting...

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                                • Andrew
                                • iGM
                                • 07 Jun 2018

                                "8250U and 8550U – are rated at 15 W and have four cores with eight threads each"

                                You might want to revisit this :)

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • Hkv
                                  • 07 Jun 2018

                                  Would be better to skip this generation.. Qualcomm usually manages to let a flaw sneak in, in their first vens..

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • KhD
                                    • 07 Jun 2018

                                    Who is still using SD450?

                                      but price?

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