Xiaomi puts up the XR, XS and XS Max for sale, and those aren't just phones

15 September 2018
In a jab at Apple, Xiaomi is offering three bundles at the prices of the latest iPhones, and each consists of a phone, laptop, and accessories.

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FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018MIUI updates are not Android updates. They don't fix the An... moreHe didnt wrote Android updates !!!
He wrote software updates.

And what the F is security updates then what i wrote in that comment ???
I have got them with these MIUI updates every month. 2 days ago i got MIUI 10 update and with it come security update of 2018-09-01

So whats it that then ???

    pl2rts, 16 Sep 2018"Xiaomi aren't exactly ordering top-of-the-line components,... moreMIUI updates are not Android updates. They don't fix the Android security issues or keep your phone OS up to date. It's the equivalent of being happy IBM "update" their Windows computers by adding a new wallpaper.

      These are amazing bundles! These over those iPhones any day!!!

        Anonymous, 16 Sep 2018I'm assuming you're talking about this GSMA-article: https:... more"Xiaomi aren't exactly ordering top-of-the-line components, have had issues with build quality in the past, wildly steal designs and have next to zero software support."

        Tha F you on about next to zero software support ???
        I have first Xiaomi phone and have had it like 3-4 months by now. So far i have got 3-4 security updates that have had MIUI bug fixing and 2 days ago i got MIUI 10

        Thats more updates i have had on any device i have bought in past 10 years.
        For a 170 euro phone i have it's one of the best i have ever had and especially cause of the price of this Redmi Note 5 AI

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          pl2rts, 16 Sep 2018I dont need to show you a link. The news was in this site t... moreI'm assuming you're talking about this GSMA-article: https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_chinese_suppliers_iphone_components-news-32877.php

          That article doesn't mention the part of the Digitimes-report that states that the Taiwan-based manufacturers remain key suppliers, due to their ability to meet the volumes required by Apple. In other words, Apple are diversifying their production lines to ensure supplies can keep up with demands.

          And where a company is based DOES matter. We're talking about very different work cultures, ethics and wages here.

          And even if its the same factory producing two devices, the quality can still vary greatly. The Pixel 2, with its abysmal quality, was produced by Foxconn. The same manufacturer that makes the iPhones. It's all about what level of quality a company chooses for their components, device testing and QA.

          Xiaomi aren't exactly ordering top-of-the-line components, have had issues with build quality in the past, wildly steal designs and have next to zero software support. Their business model seem to sell devices at near-cost that may seem appealing at first glance, in order to drive users over to their software services that they have bloated nearly all their devices with.

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            • 16 Sep 2018

            Just checked it out the mi notebook pro is the 1050 Max q GPU option

              Anonym, 16 Sep 2018Simple flow information such as source IP and destination I... moreYou're saying this is impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0G6mUyIgyg ?
              You're saying they didn't use a man-in-the-middle technique, but instead reviewed the AOSP code?
              You're saying the backdoor found on Xiaomi devices was because of the open source code, even though Xiaomi is constantly violating the GPL by not releasing it?

              There's no evidence that Apple tracks or sends your private data anywhere. There's no evidence that would suggest Apple aren't telling the truth about anonymising voice assistant communication. The argument that arose from the Apple v. FBI debate was that NSA MAY have zero day exploits that they refused to reveal, not that they have a backdoor. A backdoor is what FBI demanded from Apple, and Apple refused to give them.

              There's no doubt that Apple can and will hand over data from their iCloud service if faced with a legal court order. But the fact remain that you can completely seal off your private data on an iOS device, and there's zero evidence of any backdoors.

              Apple can't give out data they don't have. That's a central philosophy when it comes to privacy, that Apple seem to stick with. If they have no private information on you, they also can't violate your privacy even if a governmental agency demand it.

                FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018Claims without sources mean nothing. Post sources. Your ... moreI dont need to show you a link. The news was in this site that to cut cost they chose a new company from who they buy parts. Lowering cost does never mean that quality goes up.

                And all the listed companies that you said. Are they all located in US ? Have them all workers from US ? If it's made in china by Chinese workers that the company name can be what ever you like to be and owned by who ever. Means nothing.

                And by your statement it seems like qualcomm who makes the Snapdragon cpu's will sell there CPU's with lower quality to these Chinese OEM's ? I dont think that these companies would last long if they would sell lower quality parts to OEM's that have not a well known name to them. And i dont think that built quality will be lower for other OEM's then the brand names if they all are built in same company factories.

                So where comes the quality is better for some and worse for others ?

                  AnonD-731363, 16 Sep 2018Man apple is a trillion dollar company and pioneering tech?... moreFirst of all, Samsung didn't invent waterproofing and Sony didn't invent 4K recording. That's like saying Ford invented the wheel. Now you're just looking silly. Secondly, buying technology from other companies is something every single hardware company do. Even Samsung buy technology and license patents from others.

                  And yes, Apple are hardware pioneers. Have you failed to notice how the entire industry immediately copy anything new Apple do? Have you failed to notice the sea of notches, removal of 3.5 mm ports, attempts to copy FaceID and very common design-ripoffs we've had? Or the sea of voice assistants we've had after Siri was released?

                  That's what followers do with pioneers.

                  Apple aren't always the first to invent a certain technology, but they are seemingly nearly always the ones to perfect and popularise it.
                  It used to be that Nokia, Motorola and HTC were great technological pioneers in the mobile industry, but they have all since collapsed for various reasons.

                  And as a side note, the iPhones have a 50-60 % profit margin. Same as the Samsung devices. And that's even though Samsung devices are cheaper to manufacture, and Samsung doesn't need a massive team of engineers for Google-competing services and software.

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                    FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018You do realise you can easily monitor data transmissions fr... moreSimple flow information such as source IP and destination IP, sure. Content of those flows, not really. Please tell me how you break the TLS easily, without being a state-sponsored actor with powers to subvert root CAs?

                    Besides, what happens in the network has nothing to do with your original argument. You made security claims about Apple (and iOS) that no one can back until they have seen the source code. The toggles and other bells and whistles in the interface mean nothing for the purposes of state-sponsored actors. Ironically enough, you could actually make such claims of security with Android (thanks to AOSP and the ability to run your own ROM created from source).

                      pl2rts, 16 Sep 2018Apple made a deal with new company that sell them cheaper c... moreClaims without sources mean nothing. Post sources.

                      Your claim that Apple buy lower-quality components to cut the cost is easily falsifiable. The iPhone X is the most expensive phone (in terms of bill of materials - $370) ever made. That's goes against your claims of buying "cheaper lower-quality components".

                      Adding to this, the main iPhone components come from TSMC, Intel, Broadcom, Skyworks, Samsung, Cirrus Logic, Qorvo Inc, TDK Corp, SK Hynix, Dialog Semiconductor, NXP, Alps and Bosch. None of those are Chinese.

                      There are only two components coming from Chinese companies; the battery (Huizhou Desay) and the wireless module (Universal Scientific Industrial). And this has been true for a long time, so it's not a case of "buying lower-quality products".

                      As for your claim of a backdoor into Apple products:
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93Apple_encryption_dispute

                      Blatantly lying is never a good look.

                        xXENDER FREAKXx, 16 Sep 2018For that, I'm not so sure. But recent statistics have shown... moreHm, I was hearing otherwise from Snazzy Labs

                          FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018Apple is a trillion dollar company pioneering technology. X... moreApple is old company too and it took more then 3 (close to 40 years) decades to get in the trillion dollar company.
                          Xiaomi is something 8-9 years old and already is 4th in the world of selling devices and first in India. It is matter of time when it's a trillion dollar company and 1st in world wide selling products.

                            1234, 16 Sep 2018When in 2019 can we expect 5G phones ?You dont need to wait for 2019. There are phones that come out in few months with the 5G. But what you do with the 5G if it's network is not yet done anywhere. Some small areas are covered with it in some major city's maybe.

                              FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018Yes, but apparently you don't. The surveillance only get... moreI remember that US dont allow in there market any device that dont have backdoor for there government. So dont talk about phones that dont even enter US market cause they dont want to give back doors to US government.

                                FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018They're a direct design rip-off with lower quality componen... moreApple made a deal with new company that sell them cheaper components that means it's lower quality to cut the cost. So dont talk about quality you serious fanboy of everything that has a well known brand name

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                                  kiasunkiasi, 16 Sep 2018each developing country move up value chain by copying othe... moreAmerica is not a country.

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                                    FinnishInquisition, 16 Sep 2018Apple is a trillion dollar company pioneering technology. X... moreMan apple is a trillion dollar company and pioneering tech???
                                    Dont get me wrong they have oled from Samsung copied IP Rating from Samsung 4K recording from Sony may i continue?
                                    Huawei trolled them for keeping the same. What you call innovation here?
                                    They added 1350 price tag on same design last year phones but with A12.
                                    Tio be honest Xiaomi earns 5-10% profit on each device compared to apple where difference between manufacturing and selling price is 4 times thecost of device.
                                    But this as you said trillion dollar company did not make anything new since Jobs died.
                                    They copied everything.

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                                      • 16 Sep 2018

                                      When in 2019 can we expect 5G phones ?

                                        Apple should be embarrassed, this is what you get for iPhone price. Decent latest spec phone, laptop, smart band and Bluetooth speakers, and what Apple offers for their exorbit price, just pesky iphones

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