iPhone XS Max can't beat the Huawei P20 Pro in DxOMark camera ranking

03 October 2018
Apple's latest and greatest has only the second best mobile camera system ever tested.

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  • 04 Oct 2018

KurtWinfield, 04 Oct 2018Come on, stop using DxOMark as a reference already, they're... moreThen apple with biggest revenue paid most so they should be best in all scores by your logic which is a huge lie.

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    • 04 Oct 2018

    Anonymous, 04 Oct 2018I don't trust dxomark's scores. When I saw comparisons of t... moreMan and you came to how to that conclusion???
    From an almost dead company you cant expect anything outstanding.
    So its a very nice and very big lie.

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      • 04 Oct 2018

      DD, 04 Oct 2018Still won't buy a Huawei phone.Me. Too. I'll never buy Huawei. Samsung and oneplus is good for android.

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        • Q0x
        • 04 Oct 2018

        Still won't buy a Huawei phone.

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          • dPU
          • 04 Oct 2018

          Lets see how the Note 9 performs with the new camera update.

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            • 04 Oct 2018

            Anonymous, 04 Oct 2018Good news for Apple. Good news for Huawei. Bad news for Sam... moreYep, that's very true, I 100% agree with you!

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              • 04 Oct 2018

              DXomark been paid?

              Of course. Who want to provide service for free of charge? The test wasnt easy though. It goes the same to other popular professional reviewer. But i dont believe who pays more got more attention. They must set things properly for a fair professional comparison.

              Flagship - Higher amount fee (same to all brand)
              Mid range - Medium amount fee (same to all brand)
              Low range - Low amount fee (same to all brand)

              Its all down to their way of review things based on own principal and rules, and the way i see it, they are professional on each test, therefore some phones have very low score. For the other flagship phone that havent been reviewed, either they dont have the confidence that their phone is good, or just dont want to be bother by it.

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                • 04 Oct 2018

                DAN13L83, 04 Oct 2018After owning a Sony A7 camera, I don't care about Phone cam... moreI have an iPhone 7 and I don‘t need a separate camera. I don’t want to carry that huge mirrorless brick with me all the time. And you have to hab’s knowledge to use that thing, in our summer vacation, my father also used some mirrorless Sony alpha camera, but because he doesn‘t know anything about photography and just uses the standard setting without adjusting anything, my iPhone 7 made better pictures, especially notable in low light, because I just have to point, shoot, boom, and I have a pretty decent picture. I always repeat what MKBHD said „The best camera is the one that you have always with you“

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                  • 04 Oct 2018

                  Galaxy Note 9, 04 Oct 2018From the beginning I phoned never completed on Camera, Phot... moreAccording to many reviewers, the iPhone XS camera is in fact one of the best if not the best camera on a phone. The Smart HDR feature has a big impact, it‘s not just an „AI“ gimmick like what Huawei does with filters and such. It actually combines many different pictures to make a better picture.

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                    • 04 Oct 2018

                    Senns like Apple didn‘t want to pay much money this time, or Huawei just bet more for staying top

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                      • 04 Oct 2018

                      I wonder how DxOMark is going to score LG V40's quintuple camera setup... :). DXOmark's weighted scoring method and testing protocol is going to change again! Yay! Smartphone camera scores keep on inching higher and higher like Antutu benchmark scores but without real significant image quality improvement at high ISO's. Fake bokeh? That's bonus points! Additional secondary telephoto camera? That's more bonus points! What percentage weight does DXOmark mobile assign to each sub score to arrive at the final camera rating? NOBODY knows. No wonder nobody trusts DXOmark's ratings. I wouldn't buy smartphone based on DXOmark's ratings. For one, it rates the Pixel phones and iPhones highly as the best phones for photography but they don't even have a manual mode to set the ISO, shutter speed, saturation, contrast, etc. No wonder people end up posting portrait photos in Facebook that have their faces look absolutely alien with the alien 'beauty mode' on and with AI (artificial ignorance) enabled.

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                        • 04 Oct 2018

                        Anonymous, 04 Oct 2018Of course.. Night shots are worse than: S9, Note 9,.... morenote 9 ?? are you serious. Samsung just put some sensor / hardware and all starts barking. Then they dont sell well, then they reduce price, gives free phones, makes stupid adds and makes new phones and forget them .

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                          • 04 Oct 2018

                          BiyoBiyo JunJun, 04 Oct 2018U think people care? As long as it beats apple, thats enoug... more:-) - android phone is only there to compete with Apple - no body cares if android flagship sucks - they just argue - because people love fighting.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • mTW
                            • 04 Oct 2018

                            Good news for Apple. Good news for Huawei. Bad news for Samsung.

                            Apple's only visible competitor is Samsung. Otherwise, they do their own thing.

                            Huawei does not compete with Apple, it competes for Android dominance, and they are eating up Samsung share.

                              Denis Thomas, 04 Oct 2018Apple: Always behind the competition and behind Apple Samsung

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                                • 04 Oct 2018

                                Galaxy Note 9, 04 Oct 2018From the beginning I phoned never completed on Camera, Phot... moreNot really.

                                IPhones have high score because new protocol. The iPhone 7 was rated 85 in 2016, while many phones were rated above.


                                89 - Pixel
                                88 - S7, HTC 10, X Performance
                                87 - Z5, XZ, S6 Edge+, Moto Z Force
                                86 - S6

                                  From the beginning I phoned never completed on Camera, Photography etc... They always behind in this area. Only after iPhone 7 they sort of providing some importance for camera in a half-hearted manner. By the time they realised Google, Huawei, OnePlus etc went ahead in this area by good margin. Nokia, Sony, HTC which used to dominate the Camera space are pushing hard to regain their top spot. Apple most probably would like you to ignore this feature for buying decision as far as iphones are concerned.

                                  It won't be bad their cameras, definitely will be good enough but it won't beat the best everytime

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                                    • 04 Oct 2018

                                    PeterThePanda, 04 Oct 2018Unfortunately, you should take DxOMark total scores with a ... moreOf course they look watercolour... Huge resolution on small
                                    mobile sensor.
                                    If you use lower resolution it will look better.

                                    People still have illusions that if Samsung and Apple had 24, 30 or 50 MP the photos would look exactly as they look now at 12MP.
                                    Lower resolution is the easiest trick to hide noise. Noise is easier seen as you crop, small photos don't let you crop that far.

                                    I resize all my picks to 2160x1536, Noise disappear!!!

                                    Then you look on a beautiful 50" 4K HDR screen, you will realize how awful 12 MP can be. Lack of details and tons of oversharpening to make people believe details are there when they are not.

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                                      • 04 Oct 2018

                                      After saw the dxomark review, they absolutely have a point there, just look at the comparison given.

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                                        • 04 Oct 2018

                                        After owning a Sony A7 camera, I don't care about Phone cameras. I have an iPhone X and the camera is bad to me.