Apple iPhone XR sold 9 million units in its opening weekend, still short of predictions

29 October 2018
Analysts predicted it would sell 10 million.

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  • 02 Nov 2018

Anonymous, 31 Oct 20181080p AMOLED = same output resolution as a 720p LCD 1125p ... moreExtremely flawed reasoning, 1080p AMOLED is clearly much better than 720p LCD. A quick look at any Xperia Compact with 720p leaves no doubt that 1080p Amoled is very superior, just not quite as good as 1080p LCD.
Your math is based on a one dimensional matrix while displays are 2D, when factoring correctly in 2D youll see that 1080p AMOLED is AT LEAST as good as 882p. 1080 squared x3/2 (the subpixles), then the square root of that, 882. In real life one easily get 2.5 effective subpixels though, so the equivalent is 985p, ie you cant tell the difference at resolutions above 440 anyway so the points are purely theoretical. We did this back in the days of Galaxy S4 vs Xperia Z, only with magnifier could one tell text was better on LCD, on photos the differences were impossible to find.

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    • Anonymous
    • pj8
    • 02 Nov 2018

    Xr sales fell short of expectations because most people are smart enough to buy Xs and Xs Max instead, well worth the higher price. A used X is also a better buy, better camera, better display, cheaper, premium build with no plastic. The only edge Xr got over X is the support for dual sim through the use of an eSim.

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      • Anonymous
      • m%5
      • 31 Oct 2018

      AnonD-731363, 31 Oct 2018Well had same question when was trying IOS and return back ... moreLooks like you dont like the newest and slickest tech out there bud. But its fine is you find comfort in android and you dont consider it to be smarter than you like you did with ios.

      Guess some people will always prefer buttons, IR blasters, 3.5mm jacks over gestures and bluetooth. Slow adopters of new technologies. Dont get me wrong thats totally ok and normal, its just how people are.

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        • SH3
        • 31 Oct 2018

        Anonymous, 31 Oct 2018I'm comfortable paying that price just to use iOS. Been ... moreWell had same question when was trying IOS and return back to Android.
        Never befriended with IOS.
        Its supports nothing apart the apple and thus i returned my device after 3 months.
        Also the phone was thinking that its smarter than I. Which turns out into a huge problem.
        And it not working with windows.
        Good bye apple. Wish you a very short life :-)

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          • Anonymous
          • MwH
          • 31 Oct 2018

          AnonD-731363, 31 Oct 2018I wonder which 9 millions of my brother and sisters would l... moreI'm comfortable paying that price just to use iOS.

          Been an Android user for the past 8 years, but I switched to iOS exactly 1 year ago. Never looked back since then, but I still ask myself why I haven't made the switch earlier instead of bashing the OS without giving it a good run for its money. Now I think Android phones are a rip off.

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            • 31 Oct 2018

            I wonder which 9 millions of my brother and sisters would like to pay 800 euros for LCD screen bad small battery and no support for SD Cards and quick charging.

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              • 31 Oct 2018

              Anonymous, 31 Oct 20181080p AMOLED = same output resolution as a 720p LCD 1125p ... morePlease give this math to Apple..
              They don't know this, that's the reason they are using Amoled screens....

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                • MwH
                • 31 Oct 2018

                Anonymous, 30 Oct 2018Yeah... a sub 1080p screen in the year 2013+5 for $800 lol1080p AMOLED = same output resolution as a 720p LCD
                1125p AMOLED (iPhone X/XS) = 750p LCD
                1242p AMOLED (iPhone XS Max) = 828p LCD
                1440p AMOLED = 960p LCD

                The XR has an LCD screen of 828p resolution.
                Phones with 1080p AMOLED screens have a real resolution of 720p in LCD equivalence.
                1440p AMOLED screens have a real resolution of 960p in LCD equivalence.

                So an 1080p AMOLED screen is in fact worse than the XR's 828p LCD in terms of sharpness/clarity.
                A 1080p AMOLED screen is as sharp and clear as a 720p LCD screen.

                  Anonymous, 30 Oct 2018Oh no. If this phone don't sell it would mean that people h... moreAs much as I like the iPhones and iOS, there's no choice but to admit that Samsung for example does make a high quality hardware, if you want to argue that it's not true, then that would mean that iPhones are also of bad quality since some of their parts are made by Samsung.
                  There's also no excuse for that bad screen resolution on this price tag. I get that the camera might not be current top notch, and it's not even bad. Built quality and design are on point. It does lack features like 3D touch for example...
                  Good things about it are A12 chipset and 5 years of support. But is that worth that much money to you? In the same price range you get - better screen, better camera, bigger battery and more features on other manufacturers. True, iOS is smoother and you get better support - but you at least won't feel ripped off!

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                    • 31 Oct 2018

                    AnonD-789972, 29 Oct 2018Tim Cook really cares about his company and only profits. ... moreStill waiting for the 9 million people who havent fed up with this company to experience a moment of epiphany.

                      SS, 30 Oct 201890% of people who will buy this phone won't even notice tha... morebut... but... but... higher is better

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                        • Ajd
                        • 30 Oct 2018

                        Anonymous, 29 Oct 2018Yet they keep setting revenue records YoY . The only smartp... moreYeah... a sub 1080p screen in the year 2013+5 for $800 lol

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                          • 3DR
                          • 30 Oct 2018

                          George, 29 Oct 2018Oh really? Can you watch a YouTube video while you're chatt... moreright, so you are now talking about 2 different things. Can iOS do what you said? Yes it can. Can the iPhone Xr do that? No it cannot. And that is Apple's logical choice. It works on an iPad yes, where there is much more screen real estate. On a small phone screen, why would I?

                          I feel you are mistaking multitasking for split screen. iOS can do both. iPhone cannot do split screen

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                            • 30 Oct 2018

                            BiyoBiyo JunJun, 30 Oct 2018yeah ... how miserable their life is their phone can't supp... more90% of people who will buy this phone won't even notice that. Only tech nerds with magnifying glass on their hands all the time will notice it.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • tNw
                              • 30 Oct 2018

                              [deleted post]The last part of your post... are you insulting both sides of the fence?

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                                • tNw
                                • 30 Oct 2018

                                Anonymous, 30 Oct 2018LCD = lower cost, but comes with lower contrast levels than... moreYou forgot AMOLED's lower life span due to permanent burn ins.

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                                  • tNw
                                  • 30 Oct 2018

                                  Anonymous, 30 Oct 2018Sales don't matter to a company. Profits do. They make more... moreThey discontinued the X, not the 8. It was forward thinking since they do not know how to place it between the 8 and the XR. Any pricing for that would cannibalize one or the other looool.

                                  Discontinued. After shilling so hard about it being the Anniversary Iphone.

                                  The latest to have during its time.

                                  And oh, Tim Crook restricts his nephews from IOS products. The ones they keep shoving yearly to hungry fans.

                                  I feel like something is off there.

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                                    • MwH
                                    • 30 Oct 2018

                                    Nro, 30 Oct 2018720 LCD is better then 1080 oled? You really sick, please... moreLCD = lower cost, but comes with lower contrast levels than AMOLED, and higher energy consumption than amoled.

                                    AMOLED = higher cost, but comes with zero brightness blacks and thus offers much better contrast than LCD, has better viewing angles, better colour potential, and is more energy efficient, especially with dark user interfaces.

                                    RGB matrix = real resolution and pixel density is what the spec sheet says.

                                    Pentile diamond matrix = real resolution and pix density is 1/3 lower than what the spec sheet says.


                                    AMOLED screens made by Samsung:

                                    Samsung phones = all currently use the same pixel arrangement that was introduced with the Galaxy S5 in 2014.

                                    iPhone X/XS/Max = DisplayMate tested the Apple iPhone X and it turns out that Apple's OLED, even though it is produced by Samsung Display, uses a slightly different Diamond Pixels - the fill factor of Apple's display is higher than in the Galaxy phones.



                                    Some examples of what AMOLED Pentile/Diamond display resolution means when compared to LCD displays:

                                    1080p AMOLED = exactly the same output resolution as a 720p LCD
                                    1125p AMOLED (iPhone X/XS) = 750p LCD
                                    1242p AMOLED (iPhone XS Max) = 828p LCD
                                    1440p AMOLED = 960p LCD

                                    In terms of pixel density, it looks like this:

                                    Samsung S9 (570 ppi) = 380 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    Huawei Mate 20 Pro (538 ppi) = 358 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    Samsung S9+ (529 ppi) = 352 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    Samsung Note 9 (516 ppi) = 344 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    iPhone X/XS/Max (458 ppi) = 305 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    Samsung A7 (411 ppi) = 274 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    OnePlus 6/6T (402 ppi) = 268 ppi (LCD equivalent)
                                    Samsung A9 (392 ppi) = 261 ppi (LCD equivalent)

                                    *Note that 300 ppi and above (LCD equivalent) is the density at which the normal, healthy human eye cannot see individual pixels at a distance of 12 inches (30 cm) or more. And most people would only start noticing pixelation at around 250 ppi because they don't have perfect vision.

                                    **It's harder to notice pixelation in AMOLED Pentile/Diamond displays because the rendered pixels don't have a square shape like they do in LCD displays.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • tNw
                                      • 30 Oct 2018

                                      Anonymous, 30 Oct 2018Sales don't matter to a company. Profits do. They make more... moreThey discontinued the X, not the 8. It was forward thinking since they do not know how to place it between the 8 and the XR. Any pricing for that would cannibalize one or the other looool.

                                      Discontinued. After shilling so hard about it being the Anniversary Iphone.

                                      The latest to have during its time.

                                      And oh, Tim Crook restricts his nephews from IOS products. The ones they keep shoving yearly to hungry fans.

                                      I feel like something is off there.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • I81
                                        • 30 Oct 2018

                                        AnonD-789972, 29 Oct 2018Tim Cook really cares about his company and only profits. ... moreI am assuming you don’t own an iPhone.
                                        If that’s the case l, you should just concern yourself with things that affect you.

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