Kirin 990 to be built on TSMC 7nm process

09 November 2018
Huawei has already started developing its next-gen AI chipset with 5G capabilities.

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  • 15 Nov 2018

dude111, 09 Nov 2018They havent been listed again in 3DMARK, so no, they havent... moreread on ulbenchmark statement 1st lol... dont just make assumption.

ulbenchmark will reinstate huawei kirin 970 delisted devices after all the device get emui 9 with performance mode option.

since emui 9 stll on its way to all kirin 970 user, so, the still delisted. and ulbenchmark dont call huawei cheat, but broke the rules of having diff modes in certain apps like benchmarks n gaming, but not other app like browser, fb n etc.

if cheating, then there will no be any performance mode.

performance mode is available in games suite, only for selected app, if u decide to turn it on. its against ulbenchmark rules.

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    Anonymous, 09 Nov 2018the only thing I don't like about Huawei is that the call e... moreanything related to neural network framework is called ai in mobile computing. Go to google ai blog, then u will understand.

    because u don't understand what is ai in computing, then u call them bluffing using ai term.

    one of famous google ai framework is tensorflow.

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      • 15 Nov 2018

      dude111, 09 Nov 2018"The Mate 20 Pro is a comparatively hot device. Surface tem... moreu shud read thoroughly notebookcheck cuz all the test is using performance mode turn on. Huawei already warns in the heating part if turn on performance mode.

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        MadMel, 10 Nov 2018"We also checked how well the Mate 20 Pro performs under su... morenotebookcheck test involve turning on performance mode all the way, thats why its hot and battery isnt that efficient.

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          Anonymous, 13 Nov 2018Agree with you. In Kirin 970 Huawey used Mali G72 mp12 and ... moreu need to understand micro arch between mali g72 and mali g76.

          mali g76 is double its lane n path per core, compare to g72. basically for g72 to match mali g76 mp 10, u need malig72 mp20 atleast for same computation speed.

          thats why new exynos 9820 using mali g76 mp12, where as 9810 using g72 mp18, cuz g76 mp12 is more or less malig72 mp24.

          by having less core(but better performing core), u can achieve efficiency.

          thats why mali g76 max cores is mp20, while g71 and g72 max mp 32.

            Anonymous, 13 Nov 2018Agree with you. In Kirin 970 Huawey used Mali G72 mp12 and ... moreMaybe for cost cutting or they were confident it will match adreno combined their GPU Turbo

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              • 13 Nov 2018

              LG Superfan, 12 Nov 2018Yes thats the problem they should use maximum coresAgree with you. In Kirin 970 Huawey used Mali G72 mp12 and in Kirin 980 they’re using Mali G76 mp10.
              My question is. Why didn’t Huawey use mp12 on Mali 76 at least?

                Anonymous, 12 Nov 2018Mali G71 got mp20 cores maximus and G72 got mp18 cores maxi... moreYes thats the problem they should use maximum cores

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                  • 12 Nov 2018

                  LG Superfan, 09 Nov 2018More like the maximum number of GPU cores they can put (I r... moreMali G71 got mp20 cores maximus and G72 got mp18 cores maximus. On Mali G76 I have no idea of what is the maximus cores it can have, but Huawei always goes for less cores in their gpu.

                    dude111, 09 Nov 2018"The Mate 20 Pro is a comparatively hot device. Surface tem... more"We also checked how well the Mate 20 Pro performs under sustained load with GFXBench battery tests. We run each GFXBench test 30 times on a loop, measuring the battery level and frame rates for each run through to determine whether our test device experienced any throttling.

                    The Mate 20 Pro coped well in the older T-Rex benchmark and managed to maintain consistent performance throughout. Our test device fared worse in the more complex Manhattan test, which uses the OpenGL ES 3.1 API. The Mate 20 Pro scored around 10% fewer FPS after 30 benchmark run-throughs, but the device’s throttled performance is equal to the best that the Galaxy S9+ achieves."...

                    all that on pre- release software...also..

                    "The new nano memory card reader has fast transfer speeds too, which are faster than the microSD card readers in our comparison devices"...

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                      • 10 Nov 2018

                      I'll wait for the 2020 Kirin 1000. Should be much faster with a new improved architecture and 5nm technology.

                        dude111, 09 Nov 2018"The Mate 20 Pro is a comparatively hot device. Surface tem... moreMine performs just fine and at 40°C it should burn, but somehow mine doesn't. What were they doing with it?! Mine sure doesn't reach that temp and it's set on Performance.

                          Manu76, 09 Nov 2018Your head if it overheats"The Mate 20 Pro is a comparatively hot device. Surface temperatures average over 31.7 °C when our test device is idling, which then rose to an average of 40.3 ° C when we subjected the device to sustained load. Moreover, the area to the left of the rear-facing cameras reached a toasty 44.5 ° C"

                          https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-Mate-20-Pro-Smartphone-Review.338680.0.html

                            dude111, 09 Nov 2018The 980 already overheat a lot, puting more cores will make... moreYour head if it overheats

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                              M Kon, 09 Nov 2018Kirin running, snapdragon walking. Sure, nobody cares about stupid benchmarks in real life

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                                M Kon, 09 Nov 2018Kirin running, snapdragon walking. NOT THAT MUCH... just wait... Qualcomm has an ace under the sleeve waiting to be released... wait and see... Not a big deal of a secret, but an expected catch up...

                                Just be patience.

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                                  Love the Community, 09 Nov 2018Cheat or not, the majority said that Huawei flagships perfo... moreCouldn't say it better.

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                                    xXENDER FREAKXx, 09 Nov 2018Besides, reaching 7nm is already impressive enough. Heck, e... moreWell, we still think that in 2016 the new process would be just as fast as years' past when Intel's Tick-Tock cycle is in use. With them having a hard time to push down to 10nm and common silicon will never get any smaller means that Moore's Law is in big trouble.

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                                      Kirin running, snapdragon walking.

                                        Whackcar, 09 Nov 2018Here is an indirect reply to some of the comments below: ... moreThey havent been listed again in 3DMARK, so no, they havent stopped cheating completly.