Analysts: Apple to lower iPhone XR production further
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- 25 Nov 2018
Carol, 25 Nov 2018Apple was good? When? They were always lackluster. Jobs did... moreWell i can honestly agree with you but i eat lot of criticism past days for being rude on this parody of a brand.
But as you already know some people are addicted to this brand and you wont persuade them to buy android even if they have to pay 5000 for a phone.
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AnonD-731363, 23 Nov 2018Oh man. They can cancell whole production. Since jobs i... moreApple was good? When? They were always lackluster. Jobs did nothing but marketing, and well, that is the field where he was good at. Was the biggest marketing guy the world has ever seen, he could sell you your own dipers for 2000$, but that does not mean iphones were better then they are now. All the iphonnes from jobes era were garbage, real real REAL garbage. Now they at least then to be smartphones, but at absurd prices. This crappy phone at almost 1000€ in Germany? One has to be death dumb and blind to buy one. And there are some...
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- 25 Nov 2018
Nro, 23 Nov 2018If they sell it cheap then it will not called as an iPhone.... moreI did not say they should sell for 300 dollars. But 600 to 800 dollars like they used to price their iPhones before would be an awesome start. And sales would explode. Despite those not being cheap price.
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- 23 Nov 2018
kerul, 23 Nov 2018Well said. I am completely agreed with you.Cheers bro kudos for you.
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AnonD-731363, 23 Nov 2018Oh man. They can cancell whole production. Since jobs i... moreWell said. I am completely agreed with you.
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Realistic1, 23 Nov 2018But if they were cheaper they would be selling like hot cak... moreIf they sell it cheap then it will not called as an iPhone.....
They will never sell for cheap...
And Apple user's also like that
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- 23 Nov 2018
Oh man.
They can cancell whole production.
Since jobs is no more there is no reason to buy apple which is no longer good as it was before.
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- 23 Nov 2018
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2018You haven’t been keeping up on your Apple products. There ... moreIf you don't know Ubuntu then you don't need to read my post sorry, and you your self admit your iPhone 7 lasts for 7 hours. In my post I said 8hrs so 1 hour more than yours one. This proves that I m not wrong. You admit jailbreak for iOS.
Hahaha you said my post is lie and you your self admitting what I am saying.
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- 23 Nov 2018
kerul, 22 Nov 2018Apple is crapple, weather you accept it or not? Why you are... moreYou haven’t been keeping up on your Apple products. There is a file management system now, there is no such thing as jailbreaking OS X only iOS. You can watch tv using apps what the heck are you talking about? And what the hell is Ubuntu? Everything you are saying is misinformed. My iPhone 7 lasts well beyond 7 hours you probably need a new battery. Why do I find myself reading your posts with a Russian accent???!!!!
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- 23 Nov 2018
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2018I will take to reply to you just because I'm not sure if yo... moreI would like to go further as I think you are loving healthy discussion.
I think you are not actually understanding technology or programming and how data science work. Your most of the para reflects some of the blog and Apple's own privacy statements or someone's tell, but not reality. Also there is a thin line between user permission to access their personal data with/without user authorization.
First of all lets talk about your personal data privacy.
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Do you know how AI works? - Best example of using your personal data without even asking your permission.
AI system observe your (yes your) day to day usage, calling, gps location, listening music, watching video (and even what kind of video you are watching). Making a data set of your activities which is obviously stored on Apple Server. Now like you there are billions of users data is there on Apple Server and every data set has identification of each user. Now AI system analysis your behavior and accordingly give you suggestions like its time to go home, its time to go work, display friends or colleague dial shortcuts, Music albums matches your interest etc. Ohh apart from this how Apple Ads works, it is like Google Ads nothing difference but due to their limited exposure (yes limited because it only limited to iPhone users, while Google Ads has no limit), many of iPhone Ideologists ignoring its behavior. This is how without your permission Apple system is using your private data and serve to advertisers like Google and Facebook does.
Secondly Apple users may not understand what developers can see when they provide access to their contacts. Once a user clicks OK, developers can download information the user keeps about everyone in their address book, which might include names, phone numbers, birth dates, and home and work addresses. If people attached a photo to their friends' profiles, the developers get that, too. The app developer can also learn when a contact entry was created and edited, giving clues on the accuracy of the phone number, and whether this is a new or old acquaintance. Yes there is permission control, but even though it is possible and many App-Maker did it in past and may be doing and will do.
Do you know what Social Media Apps doing? - Best example of using your personal data with your permission.
Yeh, every body know what they do and how they do and no matter what platform you are using weather iOS or Android. And no body can deny this truth "If you want to know details of other, you have to share your details". And don't say that Apple users are not using Social Media Apps, in fact 99.99% of smart phone user using Social Media Apps more or less and more than 80% of them are addict to Social Media.
So the bottom line is even though it is hard to get user's information without his/her permission in iPhone it is not meant that it is 100% truth. And when almost all users of iPhone uses Social Media, Apple's hard work to protect user's private information fails. That means even Apple themselves know all these but still marketing user's privacy, which is actually meaning less.
Now talking about World Class Hardware and Its Replacement Cost
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Yes admitted that their hardware quality is good, but does not mean Android Flagship's built quality is bad.
Okay lets talk about bendgate issue. - Best example of how Apple Cheat their loyal customers.
When they found bendgate issue, they keep quite and through all those devices in market. I'm talking about iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, which comes to world when their internal documents were filed into Court and that is 2 years later. But when people complaining about bending of phones in iPhone 6 and 6 Plus era, company asked for $149 for the replacement which is actually their fault. Okay and what they did for those phones? no body knows, but there are chances that same phones where back into market after changing the body. Yes there is no proof but for $149 replacement charges and they have thrown faulty devices in the market is a fact.
Replacement, Not Repaired - This is a scheme to cheat customers.
Free replacement in 90% of cases reject with their own terms and condition. So until and unless there is some manufacturing fault which is very rare case during the warranty period, everything is gone in replacement with so called highly authorized service center right. No you are wrong, come to ASIA and see how this process is handled. Okay don't blame Asia, if you can control authorized service center in other part why not in Asia. Cause Asia is the Hen with golden eggs, and none of the company tried to being over smart (This is naked truth).
Now come to main point that Apple do not repair, it replace. Okay so if there is small mistake in your phone hardware which can be solved under $100, they force you to pay $400 to replace that whole part. You can see WOW factor, but I can see how big profit they are making, cause there is a very big market of refurbished iPhone. So from two ways they are earning, do you got my point?
See actually you were talking in very ideological way, but world is not my friend. You said who force you to buy iPhone, yes you are right but again it is ideological argument. Apple do marketing in a way that they force you to buy iPhone. Yes marketing is as science, that can make you choice what they want. And Apple is very strong in this area like Samsung. Also Steve Job who made Apple a Loyal Brand, and now people are after it.
And about iPhone Application development, it really sucks and that is why developers charging very high cost like me.
And apart from all of this discussion, do you believe that if 50% of the internet users do not share their private information Google, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp etc can survive? Not even Apple can survive cause for featured phone no body will spend $1000.
I'm not favoring Google, but if why none of the search engine survive against Google. Google give exposure to many of the small retailers, businesses, service providers with Google Maps, Google My Business and Google Search and we have to accept this with sacrificing our Privacy :( .
Tell me why Apple is not doing this when its net worth is 3 times than Google. If you are talking about ethics to protect their customer's privacy, they should stop all social media application. They should give free replacement during bendgate like issue or most perfect decision would be they had not throw faulty devices into the market.
Since last year I'm not making iPhone Apps nor using any Apple product, cause it is my personal ethics.
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Duel, 22 Nov 2018"As much as I love Apple and iPhones - I am glad this is ha... moreBut if they were cheaper they would be selling like hot cakes honestly. We all know it.
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The possible reasons are the big screen size and price.
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- 22 Nov 2018
At this price, they should be glad they sold one.
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- Anonymous
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- 22 Nov 2018
Who in their right mind would predict 90-95 million units?!
Historical iPhone sales:
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/590b75a7fcd8ebe3028b51dc-1136-852.png
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- 22 Nov 2018
kerul, 22 Nov 2018Nothing is wrong I'd written, I do know programming, techno... moreMy opinions only truly reflect my own experiences and may only share with others partially.
Based on your own experiences, whatever you have written should be absolutely correct (in your terms), and those other pointers you have raised objectively should be agreeable to majority, if not all.
Not all iphone owners behave like what has been stereotyped; on the other hand, not all are mature enough to deal with all these comments - including myself. But I still believe that when one purchase the dream device, he/she would have the maturity to make the plunge.
Then, what happens next when someone else shoots your decision down as if you are utterly wrong, making the grave mistake in life? What if you are the one being shot down? And since you are unhappy with apple, why are you "creating mobile apps for iphone"? Aren't you throwing your hard work to companies like apple? In this case I assumed you are doing it right now since you used "-ing". If I'm wrong about you, what makes you right about others?
Having only used specific devices, the most I can only read up or listen to reviews from others, good and bad. Without using them, the most I can only advise is to share my views on devices I personally use. Different users require different features, and use the phone differently. Some complain about no headphone jacks, notches, old design like curved screens etc; yet have to accept them when their beloved company release new powerful flagships that welcomed these new "trends". Innovation has slowed down, but waiting for that very disruptive moment.
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- 22 Nov 2018
kerul, 22 Nov 2018Nothing is wrong I'd written, I do know programming, techno... moreI will take to reply to you just because I'm not sure if you're serious about your opinions or these are just the result of baseless hating and bashing of a company and products you don't understand.
When you talk about security in Apple devices, you talk about how easy it is for unauthorised people to get access to your data and how easy it is for someone else to spy on you. That means hackers, websites that spread malware, apps in the store which contain hidden spyware (currently an android problem but I'll list it just for reference), airport personnel, the police, thieves, people from rival companies in your field of work, repair shops, spies, etc. So once you store data in your iPhone or whatever, it is held secure there and no one else has access to it except the owner. Other parties can wipe the device or the device will wipe all its data automatically, they can reinstall the OS, install a jailbroken OS, do whatever they want, but they will not have access to the user's files and information.
Data collection - Apple does not do personal data collection and does not record individual user identifiers for their Maps or anything else. For example, they can know how many people are taking certain paths to help them improve their map algorithms, but they don't collect information on who those people are. They know how many times and app crashes, but they only know the device model and the OS version it ran on. Nothing about the user.
Publishing apps - so are you not happy about the price? This is to keep competent developers publishing apps who generate income, and have those with bad and unpopular apps out of the store. Google cares less for these kind of things because almost all of their profits are made from ads, not from selling devices and apps. Which is wrong, because user are having their information and personal data processed and they are being taken advantage of.
Repairs - Apple does not do repairs, they do component replacements. That's because they don't do patch up work on their hardware. They don't use soldering irons, they don't replace capacitors and transistors, for that would be patch work. This is why used Apple devices who are only services in licensed service centres or by Apple, will always work as fresh from the factory. And because they replace a logic board instead of replacing a capacitor and because they replace a screen instead of replacing or un-bending a pin connector, all their repairs are expensive - because you are getting new parts in your device.
Also, because of the T2 security chip in their Macs who offers hardware security to user data, all repairs will only be done by Apple and licensed service centres, otherwise the device will get bricked. That's perfect for those who want to buy second-hand items, as they always know their devices' hardware has not been patched by random repair shops, and that the hardware is like "fresh and original from the factory".
So the actual bottom line is:
- if you care more about your money than about your personal life and data security, if you are fine with being monitored, having your data processed by google and many other companies and having them serve you the content, search results, information, products, etc. that generate the most profits for them regardless if those are the correct results or the correct information or the right products that you are looking for or need, there's no point in using Apple devices.
- but if you care more about keeping your data and your private life secure and untouchable, then you will use Apple devices. That's because Apple is the exact opposite of android/windows when it comes to these things.
For some people, their personal data, their information and theirpersonal lives are far more valuable and important than a few hundred $ spent less on a device.
What would you choose:
-- a $50,000 car that you buy and own
or
-- the exact same car for $35,000 with the condition that an informer/profiler will need to be in the car with you at all times and report to headquarters on everything you do, everywhere you go, everything you talk about, everyone you meet?
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- 22 Nov 2018
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2018Everything in this post is wrong and it's the sort of thing... moreNothing is wrong I'd written, I do know programming, technology and use Apple products for more than 2 years including Mac Book and iPhone. I'm creating mobile apps for both iPhone and Android.
So what do you know better tell me. You mean there is no bendgate issues, there is no jail breaks? There is no OS in market with security issue. I'm not saying Android is fool proof, but I'm saying you Apple lovers living in a dream that iOS is secured.
Your data privacy my foot, Apple had shared your data with third parties for enhancement in their MAP application and this one case is enough to say that your data is not private and safe even with Apple.
Have you ever tried to publish your app using developer account? Many times it found that their server is down and we have to wait for hours. We have to pay every year $100 to continue our developer account, while Google only charged $25 for life time. Both are having their revenue plans, but every year $100 is not acceptable when your developer earns you some money.
Ask them who visited Apple store for iPhone repairs, it is nightmare for them. Instead of repair add some more money and you will get another iPhone. So, is it fair when you have spent almost double or highest price?
Don't try to justify Apple loot. You need to be wise not blind when trusting any company. I do love Sony, but now since last two years I didn't by any Sony Phone. Just because they have no presence in India now a days and very hard to find service station. So only quality does not matter when you are spending $1000, running cost, after sales service and repair cost does matter.
There is no denial about their quality standards, but it doesn't mean Android Flagships doesn't have quality standards. Every manufacturers are having their plus and minus, but the way you Apple lovers act or write is not acceptable. You guys act like Apple is the only one having quality standards, Apple is only innovative company etc etc is wrong.
So bottom line is stop living in dream and value your money which you earn by hard work, just don't throw it to a companies like Apple.
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- 22 Nov 2018
kerul, 22 Nov 2018Apple is crapple, weather you accept it or not? Why you are... moreEverything in this post is wrong and it's the sort of things people who don't understand technology, programming, security, and have never used iPhones for more than a couple of days, would say about Apple, their iPhones, and their other products.
So much wrong stuff written in a single post. Things that aren't true at all.
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- 22 Nov 2018
kerul, 22 Nov 2018Apple is crapple, weather you accept it or not? Why you are... moreWell said bro
But I liked the real reason What you said is true...
" None of the iPhone users complaints for any thing cause they have spent twice of amount and feel shame to accept it that they become a fool just for having Apple Symbol in their smartphone"
This statement is 100% true..
For every thing they should pay extra...still they are very much happy...but my mates are using $1000/- iphones... they hardly uses it for just calling, taking pics..and some games in free time.but I am using my mobile for anything... like I don't even open my laptop...
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- 22 Nov 2018
Anonymous, 22 Nov 2018The XS and XS Max use amoled screens, which means the techn... more*This*
People use low res phones for years (720p basically) yet when Apple does it (and in fact its actual resolution is higher) they cry murder.
Hardcore Apple haters. Hate everything Apple just for the sake of it.
They do have issues though, especially in customer service. The "right to repair" act tries to solve a lot of them!
Also their phones are not the cheapest (although XR is kind of reasonably priced given the insane specs)