Gartner: Global smartphone sales stay flat as Chinese companies gain ground

04 December 2018
If it wasn’t for Huawei and Xiaomi, sales would’ve declined by 5.2% YoY.

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  • 06 Dec 2018

For Real, 04 Dec 2018@Scram, it is tine for your med as well, don't forget to sh... moreLol, he sees Sales as a feature, it's the ONLY thing he can talk about, much like iPhone users, they can only talk about Apple profit as they buy an inferior product who's features are far behind, lol.

So in total he enjoys buying inferior products at higher prices.

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    • 06 Dec 2018

    Scram, 06 Dec 2018Samsung don't need any of that to stop the bleeding. The... moreSales is not a feature and helps nobody in the gran scheme of things.

    All you have proven in this post is that you are more than happy to pay more for an inferior product that you hilariously have to refund each year with the older model and therefore have to ensure you buy either an Apple or Samsung devices for their resale value, LOL. Resale value will not help your Apple or Samsung's slow charging or average battery life despite 4000mah battery.

    Your priorities are out of wack buddy.

    Get back to me when you are serious, we can talk Property resale values and investments, don't come here and spew nonsense about small resale prices of purchases like a dam phone. A phone is a tiny purchase that should not have you worried about its pathetic resale.

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      • 06 Dec 2018

      For Real, 04 Dec 2018@Scram, it is tine for your med as well, don't forget to sh... moreThat's just lame.

      I've give you another try. Come on, get on with it.

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        • 06 Dec 2018

        AnonF-85937, 04 Dec 2018Hopefully one day Samsung will get: - Faster Charging -... moreSamsung don't need any of that to stop the bleeding.

        They only need to price their mid-range devices competitively to stop the bleeding. It seems you've lost touch with reality. Samsung retired the IR blaster with little fanfare, Desktop UI is barely used, Samsung has had iris scanning for several generations and the average folk doesn't care about the difference between that and "true facial recognition," the S10 will get the improved and better ultrasonic in-display FPS, the Note 9 is already a road champ; and most people charge their phones overnight.

        You keep regurgitating crap like its gospel. Seal that trap sh*t. The Galaxy S3 was so amazing it outsold a top-selling iPhone. The Mate 20 should be outselling the Note 9 if it's such a wildly compelling device and as you say the Note 9 is "outdated."

        The Samsung S10 trio will:

        -have less than 40W fast charging
        -have less than 4200mAh
        -probably not have Wireless Desktop UI
        -not have an IR blaster
        -not have facial recognition

        ...Still, it'd outsell the Mate 20 trio and P30 trio combined.

        Most people don't care about those crap you mentioned, they care about price (of mid range devices I must add).


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          • 06 Dec 2018

          AnonF-85937, 04 Dec 2018Lol, did you read the Shoot out? It's about Night Mode, not... moreAnother load of crap...

          You've dropped the toga of wide angle camera and optical zoom to fly the night mode flag now. What are the others no longer important anymore. At the drop of a hat. Or you're saying the Mate 20 trio somehow eviscerates the Pixel 3 in dark shots. You're out of your mind.

          My point hasn't changed from the start. Cameras in flagships have been great for a few years now. Differences are marginal and mostly subjective. Read English or go learn it.

          Dude your link says nothing about battery health. Which is what we're talking about. Like why are you always so oblivious of the topic of discussion. Yes it has 40W charging, yes it uses a low voltage/high amperage combo which anyone with elementary Physics knows the advantage, but the TUV cert says nothing about the health of the battery after X number of cycles. All of that is just marketing hullabaloo for the uninitiated. Can't blame them, but don't bring it up when chatting with a nerd, it doesn't hold water.

          About the Mate 10 Pro, did you just pull that out of your a$$. This is just the start, the industry has been doing high voltage/low amperage in a more complicated, highly tested, but healthier connection; the Chinese are turning to low voltage/high amperage in a less complex, cheaper, low tested, and health-ambiguous connection. Batteries degrade all the time, so saying the Mate 10 Pro's battery holds strong after 1 year is factually incorrect. The question is how does it stack up to the more battery health conscious techs. You're simply a guinea pig for a consumerist brand that's all about rolling out cheap merchandise off the belt and getting marketing "wins."

          I don't need that extra speed if I'd have to forego battery health.

          And about resale, my immediate circle comprises of folks who do not need hand-me-downs. Most are iPhone users. Anyone who wants a new phone gets a new phone, not yesterday's in-thing like they lack the means. :) And I don't need a lecture from an anon on the Internet about spending habits. I get more bang for my buck, which is why I can afford to get the best every year and not complain about rising prices. It works for me and so I care about resale value.

          Now you don't care about sales. A while ago you were on and about how sales are bad like the Mate 20 was outselling the Note 9. You've ended up saying nothing really, just rattling off inconsequential sh*t. Samsung's flagships are outselling Huawei flagships. And they'd continue to next year.

          And I asked a question about Wireless Desktop UI, would connecting one cable give anyone arthritis? I don't want to use DeX because it isn't Wireless said no one ever. And talking about a lack of feature is rich when a supposed Note competitor lacks a pen and you don't mid.

          Get the f*ck outta here.

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            • 05 Dec 2018

            Yes it should stay flat. Phone industries is now in steady market, maybe decline in the next few years. Analytics research says people nowadays will change phone every 3-4 years, than in 2010 they will change every 1-2 years. But Huawei sales up is interesting, in my country, Huawei is nowhere to be seen, only geek, Oppo and Xiaomi are the (also Samsung) is the leader.

              For Real, 04 Dec 2018@Scram, it is tine for your med as well, don't forget to sh... moreWhy would you hope for a bad thing to happen to another person?

                Anonymous, 04 Dec 2018* 75% are Nokia feature phones.Eh, fair point.

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                  • 04 Dec 2018

                  Walter C. Dornez, 04 Dec 2018Literally 75% of those were Nokia* 75% are Nokia feature phones.

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                    • 04 Dec 2018

                    Again, a ridiculously negative article.

                    Smartphone sales "losing steam" - what a disaster !

                    Sales aren't falling it's just slowing *growth*, remember unit prices keep going up.

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                      • 04 Dec 2018

                      Scram, 04 Dec 2018What a load of nonsense. I find it difficult to take you... more@Scram, it is tine for your med as well, don't forget to shuffle up your Note 9, and hope it explodes.

                        AnonF-85937, 04 Dec 2018Yes, my point exactly, as the iPhone XR with its crap displ... moreI'd say the Mate 20 Pro is the note feature packed, but not the most complete.

                          Scram, 04 Dec 2018You give that dude more credence than he deserves. He d... moreI mean, I'm not saying that the Pro isn't a better phone. What I am saying is that Huawei beats Samsung in the key areas. Samsung wins, however, the all around title, as it has only one compromise.

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                            • 04 Dec 2018

                            Hopefully one day Samsung will get:

                            - Faster Charging
                            - Batteries that last (keep original capacity over 1 year)
                            - Great Battery Life
                            - In-screen Fingerprint Scanners
                            - Miracast Desktop UI
                            - IR Blaster
                            - Proper Facial Recognition

                            Just like Huawei has, then Samsung may stop the bleeding.

                            I hope the S10 will change things for them and that the Note10 can at least match the Mate 20 Pro at being a real Road Warrior beast that can achieve great battery life and charge from 0-100% in less than 1h15mins.

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                              • 04 Dec 2018

                              They made a copy then sell it for less

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                                • 04 Dec 2018

                                Walter C. Dornez, 04 Dec 2018Bad sales don't necessarily mean the phone is badYes, my point exactly, as the iPhone XR with its crap display is selling well, so wvwn if the Note9 sells more than a Mate 20 Pro, doesn't mean much anyway as the Mate 20 Pro is the more feature packed and more complete device at this point.

                                I'm hoping Samsung gave learnt from the Note9 and will make a REAL Note with the Note10.

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                                  • 04 Dec 2018

                                  Scram, 04 Dec 2018What a load of nonsense. I find it difficult to take you... moreLol, did you read the Shoot out? It's about Night Mode, nothing to do with 3 Cameras. Your lack of understanding is becoming clear, AGAIN let's repeat, the P20 Pro overall is still the best, while the Mate 20 Pro has also shown that it is brilliant at Night Mode,this part has nothing to do with 3 Cameras, the 3 cameras make the Mate 20 Pro more versatile in the sort of photography it can do, meaning it not only matches the Pixel 3 but surpasses it in usability.

                                  Mate 10 Pro Supercharging applies THE SAME principles as the Mate 20 Pro, with a bump in Wattage, maybe you need to do some reading up because you are now truly embarrassing yourself :D and I posted a link showing it got the TUV CERTIFICATE the Mate 10 Pro got, clearly you do not comprehend very well when you see your argument is weak.

                                  I don't throw my old phones away, I give them away to people who need them, I don't need to depend on a Resale value of a dam Phone, LOL.

                                  Galaxy resale value is not even worth speaking about, AGAIN if you have to resell your device to finance the next one maybe you should watch your spending habits and start looking at mid to low end.

                                  No point in worrying about Note9 and Mate 20 sales, the Note9 shows Samsung is in decline, it's like comparing Nokia N97 sales to iPhone 3GS sales, Nokia was in decline anyway.

                                  And yes, Desktop UI using Wi-Fi Direct via Miracast, THAT is the future, not your foot buddy. :)

                                  At least come here with some hardcore facts and not just dismiss stuff because you don't like it as neither Apple or Samsung don't have a feature, LOL.

                                    bobby53787, 04 Dec 2018Here are the best-selling cell phones of all time: Nokia... moreLiterally 75% of those were Nokia

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                                      • 04 Dec 2018

                                      Walter C. Dornez, 04 Dec 2018Bad sales don't necessarily mean the phone is badYou give that dude more credence than he deserves.

                                      He doesn't care about the sales figures, quality of the device, or anything tangible really. He only cares about pushing a crap Huawei fanboy narrative even though a Note 9 S cycle refresh without any bells and whistles is outselling the supposed Mate 20 trio with all of its future-proof, apparently jaw-dropping "features."

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                                        • 04 Dec 2018

                                        AnonF-85937, 04 Dec 2018Last I checked the Huawei P20 Pro was still the best at DxO... moreWhat a load of nonsense.

                                        I find it difficult to take you seriously. According to you the Mate 20 Pro with 3 cameras does "comparatively well" against the Google Pixel 3 with just 1 camera, when it should be blowing it out of the water. After all, that wide angle camera, extra magnitude of optical zoom has to confer some magical exponential earth-shattering improvement doesn't it?

                                        Then you use the Mate 10 as proof that the 40W fast charging in Mate 20 is safe? Really, have you had your meds?

                                        Resale value is a big deal when one has to upgrade devices regularly. It's good for the wallet and for the environment. If you want to throw your device in storage, by all means do so, but the used and refurb market for phones is on a roll and your sh*t opinion on a comment section doesn't hold water.

                                        Galaxies and iPhones have the best resale value. This isn't an opinion, it is a fact. If you don't care about it, that's your problem. It doesn't diminish its importance.

                                        And btw, Note 9 sales will never be as bad as the Mate 20 + Mate 20 Pro + Mate 20 X sales. Suck on that. Wifi Direct Desktop UI my foot. Connecting a cable is supposed to give me arthritis right? You can't help making yourself sound out of depth.

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