Gartner: Global smartphone sales stay flat as Chinese companies gain ground
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- 23 Jan 2019
Scram, 22 Jan 2019Oh boy, do you keep spouting stuff that make no sense. Are ... moreMr. Mobile gave a host of reasons including class-leading battery life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LGzslS742o
Oh and it is now the top camera phone on DxOMark:
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_pro_gets_109_overall_score_in_dxomark_tied_with_another_huawei_phone-news-35147.php
Class-leading camera with class-leading battery life, not too shabby, a lot more than Samsung can say for the Note9 that is still waiting for Android 9 Pie in most regions many months after release, LOL.
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- 23 Jan 2019
Scram, 22 Jan 2019You mean like Huawei that's already thinking about downsizi... moreFortunately, none of what you said affects me as a consumer. I still have the best High-End smartphone around with the best battery life. :)
I don't have to worry about their revenue or profits, I'm not a shareholder.
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- 22 Jan 2019
AnonF-85937, 31 Dec 2018Seems Samsung cannot even release the latest version of And... moreYou mean like Huawei that's already thinking about downsizing?
https://www.ft.com/content/2b0c6a22-1cbc-11e9-b126-46fc3ad87c65
Samsung Group made $305b back in 2014, three times more than Huawei made in 2018; and Huawei is already being squeezed at the jugular. Would like to see them keep growing exponentially selling $200 Honor phones and losing 5G contracts.
Talking about declining revenues like you have a clue how large Samsung is. What the Chinese copycats have coming for them is a f*cking tsunami. Darn petty thieves!
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- 22 Jan 2019
AnonF-85937, 31 Dec 2018Iris scanner was spoofed long ago, there goes that argument... moreOh boy, do you keep spouting stuff that make no sense. Are you intellectually challenged?
I guess, you can't use a pen on the flat side of the screen, which likes makes more than 95% of the screen. Like is your IQ a proper fraction?
This has got the lamest point to make in the history of points.
Keep giving excuses for having a crap device without a class-leading feature. I do hope you can pocket a Surface Pro. What a simpleton?
Oh and that's all you can come up with. Gotten tired already? Tired of getting your panties in a bunch over gimmicks? Oh, tell us about reverse wireless charging, that seems to be a "neat feature" you should be bragging about. Or not? Like the extra 200mAh, or an extra camera lens.
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- 31 Dec 2018
Seems Samsung cannot even release the latest version of Android without Battery Issues: https://www.phonearena.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-android-pie-battery-drain_id112317
Let's not forget how late this update is for the S9 range and that the Note9 is still on an older Android version and will Pro have the same issues whenever Samsung eventually release the Oreo update for the Note9, but by that time the update will probably be outdated anyway.
Such a shame, lots of catching up to be done by ol' Sammy, explains why the bleeding is continuing thank goodness for their businesses keeping Samsung mobile afloat.
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- 31 Dec 2018
Scram, 30 Dec 2018It's not Samsung's fault you're too basic to appreciate a p... moreIris scanner was spoofed long ago, there goes that argument:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/23/samsung-galaxy-s8-iris-scanner-german-hackers-biometric-security
As for the SPen, it's pretty useless on a display that is curved, I know because I have had the Galaxy Note devices like the Note Edge and Note8 and the Dual edge made it useless by reducing the usable writing area,in any case I don't need to take notes with a Pen, I just voice record what I need and use the 5x Hybrid zoom to zoom in on any detail I need, simple. :) this ain't the 1960s buddy, get with the times and use the tech. If I need a true device to write on I'll get a Surface Pro that gives ample Space on the flat screen and has fully fledged apps that can properly integrate with all my Apple and Microsoft devices without hassle. Whip out your SPen and go all out buddy, it won't be worth much considering the amount of compromise, but hey I understand you need hang on every little straw to defend your resale value device that is now heavily discounted anyway.
Thanks for admitting to the lag of the Samsungs.
30mins extra SOT? That's cute, maybe the Note9 gets 30mins extra over the Note8, but the countless Battery Tests on YouTube show a re much larger difference where the Mate 20 Pro lasts far longer than the Note9 and charges in much less time, win-win.
Thanks for the good laughs mate, truly entertaining come back with some solid feedback next time, glad you stopped the bad language :)
Thanks for confirming the vastly superior hardware of the Mate 20 Pro, it has truly changed the game, hopefully Samsung can catch up next year, we all know Apple will take a few years before they bring in all of this.
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- 31 Dec 2018
Scram, 30 Dec 2018Exposing your lack of comprehension of the English language... moreShame man, must be tough to come here and make unfounded claims and not fully understand the technology, that's Okay, hopefully in 2019 you’ll move on from this.
For now keep making excuses, it's interesting how you first came here against all these Chinese OEMs and now you are back peddling. :D
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- 30 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 14 Dec 2018You can swear and name call all you want :D but you clearly... moreExposing your lack of comprehension of the English language again.
The link says nothing about battery health over an extended period of time. Chinese producers are content with selling crap that get trashed after 2 years because they're targeting price-conscious markets; Samsung, Apple, and the rest of the old guard have to be cautious of battery health or they'd have class action suits on their hands in the wealthy, more litiguous Western markets over planned obsolescence.
The Google meaning of average is "an amount, standard, level, or rate regarded as usual or ordinary."
The Note 9 has the same score (103) as the #3 and only 2 points less than the latter-released #2 pick XS Max. How is that "ordinary"? You keep spouting cringey stuff. You NEED to take a literary class. That's an advice.
You think it's name calling when I'm only being objective and telling it like it is. The VOOC and SuperCharge aren't markedly different from each other in the same way that Samsung Adaptive Charging and Qualcomm's QC 2.0 are not markedly different from each other. The difference is that OnePlus and Huawei decided to use proprietary hardware, while Qualcomm and Samsung didn't.
OnePlus pioneered the move to use high voltage/high current with the OG VOOC in 2015. It was a 20W charging system with 5V/4A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOOC
Huawei copied the tech with its 22.5W 5V/4.5A SuperCharge. Being the OG trendsetter, OPPO has improved theirs to the Super VOOC with 50W 10V/5A and Huawei is playing catch up with copying as usual with the 40W 10V/4A SuperCharge you keep bleating about.
They can mislead folks like you who can't comprehend or do independent research, not enthusiasts like myself.
And it's not like Samsung and Apple can't deliver higher power fast charging. They make laptops and the USB-PD standard can delivery up to 100W with current tech. They haven't because it is not great for extended battery life on smartphones. Look no further than fast wireless charging. The Qi standard (1.2) maxes out at 15W for low-power spec, although medium power maxes out at 120W. Rumors was that Huawei would support 20W back in June with a custom wireless solution but since there was no one to copy, they curiously weren't able to develop a custom, "proprietary" wireless solution.
Seeing how little you know and the fact that you have a chronic inability to comprehend simple grammar, it's no surprise you're all gleeful because your inferior value phone has an extra camera lens or is a portmanteau of copied tech.
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- 30 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 10 Dec 2018The SPen does not improve the battery life, Camera quality,... moreIt's not Samsung's fault you're too basic to appreciate a prosumer tool like the S Pen that's perfect for productivity and creatives. How do you scribble quick notes on your Mate 20 Pro or make a quick sketch or annotate effortlessly? With your finger when I can just whip out my S Pen and go all out.
Yea Huawei following the leaders as usual. Samsung had an Iris scanner which can't be spoofed and that'd be going away for the FPS. Apple did away with Touch ID and embraced Face ID. They are market leaders, and would go in any direction they deem fit; not be copycats.
Sure, I'd lose sleep over a half second delay when opening apps, extra 30 minutes of SOT, and a battery-killing fast-charge. Just so I can use a phone without a headphone jack, without MicroSD, without the almighty S-Pen, and with a sh*t resale value. Joke is on you!
My inferior hardware has a better resale value than your "superior hardware." The market can't be fooled by copycats and their airhead apologists.
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- 14 Dec 2018
[deleted post]You can swear and name call all you want :D but you clearly are beyond your shallow depth here. To round it up simply for you, you are wrong over and over again, it's really hilarious though. :)
Let's start with your Charging and Battery life claim, you are wrong, Samsung actually has amongst the worst battery charging: https://m.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php
In terms of Camera, again, you are wrong, the Note9 is not even in the top 3, it has an average camera:
https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
No buddy, OPPO VOOC and Huawei Supercharge are two different standards, it's so adorable how you think you are right but are so wrong and so you over compensate with endless swearing and name calling, do a little reading here bud:
https://www.xda-developers.com/charging-comparison-oneplus-huawei/
Try this again, this time come with some actual facts, like an adult, I hate to go around in circles on things we have covered.
The Nokia 1100 is one of the best selling phones ever built, doesn't mean it's better than a Note9, let the sales go buddy, they prove nothing and do nothing for consumers, except those who put themselves in a trap of having to worry about phone resale values, LOL.
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- 10 Dec 2018
Scram, 10 Dec 2018Another epic attempt at douchebaggery.
Samsung has the ... moreThe SPen does not improve the battery life, Camera quality, speed or the charge speed of the Note9, you know? Things that MATTER.
Actually Android had Facial Recognition first, it debuted with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, it was a crappy version that FAILED known a Face Unlock, Apple came and did it properly later and Huawei has a similar implementation to Apples, Samsung still lags behind in this area much like they lag behind in Battery, Fast Charging, Camera etc...
Thank you for posting those two P20 Pro threads, that proved to be people expecting the P20 to last as long as the lower res Mate 10 Pro, lol, not really saying the battery is bad but that it isn't as great as Mate 10 Pro which is expected with a higher resolution of display, and larger physical size, DUH.
Galaxy Note9
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/GalaxyNote9QuestionsandAnswers/thread-id/3008/page/1
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9/907109-battery-drain-note-9-suddenly.html
Let's just end your misery here:
Mate 20 Pro beats Note9 in speed tests:
https://youtu.be/EIZXk2uTHNw
Mate 20 Pro beats both your Note9 and iPhone X S Max in Battery Life
https://youtu.be/LkiniAkBOyU
Mate 20 Pro beats both your Note9 and iPhone X S Max in fast charging
https://youtu.be/HztMkTvLDsw
And it goes on and on and on. Tired of beating a dead horse(s).
Go and worry about pointless resale value on your inferior hardware.
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- 10 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 08 Dec 2018So you are saying that Apple and Samsung never cared to giv... moreAnother epic attempt at douchebaggery.
Samsung has the unique S-Pen on its Note device.
Apple pioneered Face ID and has the best mobile chipset.
All you've got to show is copied reiterations on a clone. I've got one extra camera lens. Baseless innuendo.
And that's why the free market gives better resale value to the Galaxies and iPhones because they're the best. No one is going to overpay for yet another Chinese clone.
And battery health, like on the P20
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/p20-pro-battery-issues-t3776618
https://forums.androidcentral.com/huawei-p20-p20-pro/883730-problem-p20-pro-battery.html
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- 08 Dec 2018
Scram, 08 Dec 2018Bla Bla Bla...
Load of nonsense as usual. Got anything n... moreSo you are saying that Apple and Samsung never cared to give their consumers the best tech that is on the market despite it being available, thanks for confirming :)
Battery Health? Samsung has exploding batteries and Apple throttles their phones to slowdown battery degradation, OH Samsung were also found to be slowing down their phones just like Apple to:
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-slow-down-fine-2018-917806/
Once again you prove to us that you are happy to buy inferior tech at higher prices and your only defense is pathetic resale value, it is absolutely comical.
With each post you have highlighted how you love being screwed over by Apple and Samsung by demeaning features they will eventually have to adopt to catch up and making pathetic excuses as to why they don't have the feature. LOL, battery health, good one.
Samsung have been legendary with horrible battery degradation.
Looking forward to your next baseless rambling.
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- 08 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 07 Dec 2018You simply hate it when you have a weak argument. :)
Yo... moreBla Bla Bla...
Load of nonsense as usual. Got anything new to add other than the baseless my phone is better than yours because it has an extra lens? Cos I've never given a sh*t about that and wouldn't start now.
I already have a 2018 11 inch iPad, I don't need a new brick. And OPPO started the VOOC high current/high voltage combo charade in 2014. Samsung and Apple never cared for it then, they don't now. Battery health is more important and I'd expect their next leap to prioritize battery health than some marketing jargon.
Talking about crap. Did you buy Huawei's useless NanoSD cards? I've got a 1TB storage on my Note 9. Now that's useful. I've got an S-pen with Bluetooth. I can hover over text for immediate translation, scribble notes or make sketches with it, set the phone at a distance with friends and take a photo using the pen. Now that's useful.
And when an upgrade comes next year, I'd get the best resale value on the phones and get the best flagships on the planet for a lil over the price of a OnePlus.
Don't come at me with Wireless vs Wired DeX, I have no issues plugging a cable. Or I've got one extra camera lens, the Pixel doesn't need more than one. Or I can charge faster but f*ck my battery health. I don't need any of those baseless crap.
Keep it coming with your silliness.
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- 07 Dec 2018
Scram, 07 Dec 2018Read your whole post, compare it to your first on this comm... moreYou simply hate it when you have a weak argument. :)
You go as far as trying demean features that Samsung are late on. It's been hilarious reading your walls of text.
Continue to tell us how you are happy to buy inferior devices at a higher price to refund buying more inferior devices, chasing that ol' resale value.
This article has at least stipulated that the consumer is waking up and moving from Samsung, a fact you simply cannot face, you have spoken about comprehension, but it seems you are the one that lacks it.
End of the day sales are something that only matter to the Manufacturer, to us Consumers they been nothing, but at least with my Mate 20 Pro I know I have already got features and battery life that Samsung will probably bring in 2years time.
I see Apple just launched a 18W charger, LOL, be a good boy for Apple and go buy it, while the rest of us get 40W and 50W Chargers in the box.
Let's hope Samsung can do 40W without having explosions a la Note7 and Note9:
https://9to5google.com/2018/09/17/samsung-galaxy-note-9-battery-fire-lawsuit/
But anyway, as you were, continue with your pathetic argument against good features...
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- 07 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 06 Dec 2018It's always been about l consumer buddy, or are you here to... moreRead your whole post, compare it to your first on this comment thread and see if you're even remotely on the same wavelength. Dude you've got issues. And that's not meant to be an insult. Like that's my genuine opinion of you after conversing for an extended period.
One minute, sales don't matter, next it does, next it don't matter to consumers, next it's always about consumers. Are you schizophrenic as well? This isn't normal.
Yh, people are shifting away from Samsung in the mid-range because of pricing. I've said that consistently since day 1. On the other hand, you think some pretentious dub is the reason. Samsung could have the flagship market on lock down and it still would lose market share.
Dude I don't need to buy a pretentious clone that looks like an iPhone X and Note 8 had a baby. The Note 9 has the pen and all-round power user centrism that no other phone on the planet has. I'm an Apple user as well, and the iPhone XS Max is the best iPhone currently. That will fly over your head as well, but it's entertaining to see you flipflop between positions, while I'm consistent af.
I see you've dropped the whole resale toga of financial superiority you were waving about like a flag. Got bored of it already. Seriously, you're a hot pile of mess.
Days back it was calling contractors employees, now it's opining that wide angle and wireless Desktop UI are critical, earth-shattering innovations. See a psychiatrist dude.
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- 06 Dec 2018
Scram, 06 Dec 2018Now, it's no consumer. Always shape-shifting like you've go... moreIt's always been about l consumer buddy, or are you here to talk on Samsung's behalf? Lol.
Sales means nothing when your Cameras on your latest Note keeps freezing and your phones explode.
But anyway, people are waking up and shifting away from Samsung, as the numbers have shown
Keep doing your best to backup why you keep having to refund your nonsensical habit of having to buy two Flagships that are not cutting edge, it's hilarious :D is your next rant going to be even longer!? You do a great job of saying a whole lot of nothing.
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- 06 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 06 Dec 2018No consumer is ever helped by sales, you are simply tugging... moreNow, it's no consumer. Always shape-shifting like you've got the memory of a goldfish.
So none of the Xiaomi consumers are benefiting from Xiaomi gaining marketshare and using that as proof of concept to keep their aggressive pricing?
Or do you have no idea how Samsung came to dominate. Thanks to their devices selling so well, they continued to innovate and built a solid reputation.
Yh I'm the one clutching at straws when all of this started with wide shots and Note 9 having bad sales, now you've ended with Note 9 no longer having bad sales but is an inferior device selling better than the supposed OG iPhone reincarnate. Dude go see a psychiatrist, you're disturbed.
Samsung is trying to bring foldable phones, in-screen sensors, screens folded on all four sides, graphene batteries. These guys spend over $15b per year on R&D and build ships for crying out loud. There's no original idea in the Mate 20 Pro that Samsung remotely intends to copy.
Huawei is a copycat, pure and simple. Extra battery capacity is not novel, cheaper phones have had 5000+ mAh for ages, it has never been a priority for Samsung and Apple. An extra lens, that was always coming. Supercharge is a rip-off of Oppo's VOOC. Neural image processing is a clone of Google's Pixel computational photography. What exactly does Huawei have that Samsung would want to rip off?
I'm grasping at claws yet you've consistently gone on about how resale isn't important like you're some Russian oligarch, African politician, or Arab Sheikh... This is why I don't take you serious. Cos at the end of the day, you're just a pretentious fan boy trying to measure his self worth by how much you grandstand about your fave brand.
I use the iPhone XS Max because I'm a vested Apple User, got their products from an iMac to an iPad. And I use the Galaxy Note 9 because it's the best phone on the planet.
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- 06 Dec 2018
Scram, 06 Dec 2018Sales helps no body? Tell that to HTC, LG, Microsoft, and S... moreNo consumer is ever helped by sales, you are simply tugging at that straw as its the only thing you have left :D
You go as low as trying to demean features which Samsung is trying to bring, however they will be late to the game with them much like Apple.
Keep playing yourself bud.
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- 06 Dec 2018
AnonF-85937, 06 Dec 2018Sales is not a feature and helps nobody in the gran scheme ... moreSales helps no body? Tell that to HTC, LG, Microsoft, and Sony mobile departments.
The fast charging is good enough for me, and I can rest easy knowing it prioritizes my battery health. Note 9 has average battery life. B*tch please! Now you're just talking outta your a$$.
And then you talk about resale value. Dude I don't need a permission from you on how to handle my finances. Get that in your thick f*cking skull. In the Western world, lots of folks get credit towards getting new phones by handing over their old phones. Don't make them broke, thrifty, or out of sync. It's just smart money management.
Don't like it, live your life the way you prefer. I don't need some POS using last year's flagship and some pretentious "clone" to talk about resale like he's the Sultan of Brunei. That's how you want to blow your money, get on with it. But don't you f*cking tell me my priorities is out of wack when you're literally going on about how your wide camera or night shot is such amazing technology that's heads and shoulders above everything out there. Like dude, that's lame asf. You an Instagram model or something. Or like there's some life-changing difference between wireless Desktop UI and wired DeX.