Android already on top of the iPhone, according to Eric Schmidt
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2011U know, your talking about the US. I love the US, lived the... moreU know, your talking about the US. I love the US, lived there for 2 years, but if there is one thing I really really hated there, is those trends, that get started there and makes every american crazy.
Dont believe me?
McDonalds
Starbucks (the hell, I saw a 6 year old kid, wanting a starbucks coffee, when I wanted to have one, thats crazy)
Ali G (I know, he is from UK and I love his comedy, but after the Borat movie they hyped him so much, that he can never do any Borat anymore, because all know him now)
Motorola Razr V3
iPod
iPhone
And you know what... Nokia never were big in the US and still where the biggest phone manufacturer with the best phones until the last 2-3 years sadly. What I am trying to say is, Apple doing good in the US, aint something to compare the whole world with. After the Market crisis Obama made propaganda, saying "BUY AMERICAN". Apple is american and just like most companies, they have the biggest success in their own country, thats why the big Nokia news, that they aint biggest anymore in Finnland, because they were till now or look at the car industry... Toyota sells most in Japan, VW in Germany and Ford in the US... So whats the point of showing us, that apple is doing good in the US?
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Haha lol
What about iPod ? isn't it worldwide success lol.
What about appstore sales figures and iTunes ?
iTunes is the biggest media vendor for digital media in the world.
Appstore still gets 60%+ profits compared to remaining all stores combined 40% (Ovi , android market , Blackberry , WP7 etc)Worldwide figures.
Appstore is in 100+ countries.
if US is the only country apple gets profit does it open appstore in those all countries ?
CHINA IS THE BIGGEST GROWING MARKET FOR APPLE and proved it already :)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-19/china-becomes-apple-s-second-largest-market-by-sales-cook-says.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/11/29/apple-has-a-plum-with-china-passing-u-s-as-largest-smartphone-market/
And slowly India or Africa lol.
Enough
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- ALonZo
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- 08 Dec 2011
Carphone Guy, 08 Dec 2011Im sure if Apple made 500+ different handsets that run iOS,... moreWell worded my friend. Its simple that an iOS device is a lot more stable, a lot more focused upon and most importantly, obtains high levels of user satisfaction.
See what this doofus Eric fails to realise is that playing the numbers game will obviously mean more people out there with Android devices. With so many Android phones, ranging from low prices to high end prices, of course Android will have the higher sales figures. But the doofus fails to realise is that along with the high number of Android users, comes so many different level of Android OS's ie cupcake, donut, froyo etc.... meaning not everything will work on every Android device. So many people argue that Androi has Flash.....well if you have a supported device and the right Android OS, only then can you have full flash support.
With so many levels of complex Android OS's, with users not even knowing if and when they will be able to upgrade the next Android OS, and a lot of this boils down to the network provider supporting that Android OS.
Now look at Apple. 1 OS update provided for all the phones universally. Via iTunes. Now the iPhone 3G stopped at 4.2.1, but the rest onwards just continue to get 1 iOS update at a time that accomodates the entire iPhone range. How simple. Plug into iTunes, update (even better now its OTA).
So before Eric the doofus starts sprouting his gob on how great Androis is and how its achieved greatness compared to the iPhone, why dont he carry out a little research and see the bigger picture. That his handsets and OS's are pretty much all over the place, and having larger numbers of Android users due to the hundreds of Android phones out there doesnt mean Android is better!
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2011
Carphone Guy, 08 Dec 2011Im sure if Apple made 500+ different handsets that run iOS,... moreBuddy. Get an android cause you still believe that apple compares to android
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- Anonymous
- SiG
- 08 Dec 2011
U know, your talking about the US. I love the US, lived there for 2 years, but if there is one thing I really really hated there, is those trends, that get started there and makes every american crazy.
Dont believe me?
McDonalds
Starbucks (the hell, I saw a 6 year old kid, wanting a starbucks coffee, when I wanted to have one, thats crazy)
Ali G (I know, he is from UK and I love his comedy, but after the Borat movie they hyped him so much, that he can never do any Borat anymore, because all know him now)
Motorola Razr V3
iPod
iPhone
And you know what... Nokia never were big in the US and still where the biggest phone manufacturer with the best phones until the last 2-3 years sadly. What I am trying to say is, Apple doing good in the US, aint something to compare the whole world with. After the Market crisis Obama made propaganda, saying "BUY AMERICAN". Apple is american and just like most companies, they have the biggest success in their own country, thats why the big Nokia news, that they aint biggest anymore in Finnland, because they were till now or look at the car industry... Toyota sells most in Japan, VW in Germany and Ford in the US... So whats the point of showing us, that apple is doing good in the US?
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Has the UK got a phone manufacturer we need to patronise?
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- keithz
- xVD
- 08 Dec 2011
I'm an Android user and I know he's wrong. App developers won't develop for Android first, just because the platform is "open". They want to get paid. To do that, Google actually facilitate the selling of their apps. Here they drop the ball:
1) Paid apps still aren't available everywhere.
2) No option to buy apps without a credit card (like iTunes gift cards for example).
3) Limited onboard storage of most Android phones (particularly cheaper ones and older high-end phones) limits app sales since most phones are still not App2SD. My Nexus One is constantly running out of room, forcing me to juggle installation of apps. No regular user would tolerate that.
4) Slow OS upgrades make for poorer quality apps since the API level that developers must use to ensure maximum distribution is much lower.
5) Piracy. Rampant on the Market (the one place Google can control). Why would any developer support Android when their work is getting ripped off?
All this adds up to lower sales (though not as simple as "Android users are cheap" as some Apple fans would have you believe). And with Google making no serious effort to remedy a lot of these issues, I don't see why developers would ever put Android first.
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- GRAVE DIGGER
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- 08 Dec 2011
AnonD-9023, 08 Dec 2011"Can anybody tell me why Apple have not released a mid... moreJust wanted to mention your facts and articles you've suggested have been the most entertaining and informative I've read. hold it down.
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
AnonD-5197, 08 Dec 2011Your argument is compleyely useless too. Froyo and Gingerbr... morefrom ur statement i picked up this :
"Your argument is compleyely useless too. Froyo and Gingerbread even Eclair are very capable and miss nothing but "high-end" apps which are just graphics intensive games. For everything else, the phone handles all things it needs to do."
its not about OS , its about user-experience.
even today 3GS never lags even ipod touch 3rd generation doesnt show slow performance even though in places like sorting icons its little slow but when scrolling or navigating around phone no lags. (my cousin has 600+ apps in it 32 gig model i think).
who cares about OS ? infinity blade supported from iOS 3.2 itself and most of the apps (now its on iOS 5.0.1).
most of phones in 2009 not capable to run high end apps (cough if u think high-end apps are only games)
(there are apps ,, many apps which need 3GS gpu minimum to run and render high tasks).
"You can praise all the strong points of iOS but that doesn't mean the weak points of iOS stay hidden for people who don't find iOS appealing for them. Those weak points are bad enough on Apple devices that makes me glad to have made the switch."
i Agree every thing has its own pros and cons but the fact is........
i think iPhones have good long term use and also excellent service unlike samsung or LG where people are pathetic know nothing about their own devices at all.
but Final point is people make useless statement like iphone is expensive bla bla but they have more 2nd hand value as well as market value.
reselling it gives ur extra money back.
at the end iPhone is like "it just works right out of the box and simple" and android is like "Good hardware choice poor software support and poor quality apps"
because of poor developer community.
(no offence eric already agreed it too !!
he said "after 6 months u see situation going vice-versa)
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- AnonD-5197
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- 08 Dec 2011
AnonD-9023, 08 Dec 2011"Can anybody tell me why Apple have not released a mid... moreYour argument is compleyely useless too. Froyo and Gingerbread even Eclair are very capable and miss nothing but "high-end" apps which are just graphics intensive games. For everything else, the phone handles all things it needs to do.
With Apple devices, you have to wait for things like different screen size, mass storage, and different designs (some things may never come, or you may have to tether with your phone to get). Consumers decide what they want to wait for. The number of compromise you make going from iOS to Android is about same amount of compromise going vice-versa. You can praise all the strong points of iOS but that doesn't mean the weak points of iOS stay hidden for people who don't find iOS appealing for them. Those weak points are bad enough on Apple devices that makes me glad to have made the switch.
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
mmmm, 08 Dec 2011To be honest people buy a phone that will do what they want... more"Can anybody tell me why Apple have not released a mid range handset or even a low range one for that matter? some people are not able to afford £500 or £46 a month for a phone, i know the 3gs was a mid range phone but it was priced more then the high end devices, if Apple opened there minds a little and was not so greedy they might be seeing this sort of domination."
Lol ur statement is completely useless .
Why 3GS price still higher than it should be ?
Simple , every app on appstore supports 3GS (apart from gyroscope apps) even infinity blade 2 or garageband is supported.
It supports every app from high-end graphic intense apps to low-end apps.
And obviously it supports latest firmware without missing a single feature.
compare it to any phone at that price.
lagging , no support for updates , can't get accessories , high-end apps won't even work etc..
and even battery is lot better comparing androids.
If u just see , 3GS is released 30 months back almost 2.5 years and imagine how good support was for people who bought 3GS when it was launched.
Imagine nexus one which doesnt even support ICS and people rooting to get ICS running via custom mods and ROM.
and it was released in Jan 2010 like 23 months back.
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- mmmm
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- 08 Dec 2011
Bailey, 08 Dec 2011Yes i agree with Eric in part because Android does have ama... moreTo be honest people buy a phone that will do what they want it to wether it is basic or high spec all android handsets will do the basics and more so you have a wide choice of handsets to suit your taste and budget
with Apple its a case off there is your phone like it or lump it just give us all your money, most Apple users have not got a clue about half the features or specs either they buy it because there friends have it or because they have seen it on tv,
Can anybody tell me why Apple have not released a mid range handset or even a low range one for that matter? some people are not able to afford £500 or £46 a month for a phone, i know the 3gs was a mid range phone but it was priced more then the high end devices, if Apple opened there minds a little and was not so greedy they might be seeing this sort of domination.
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- 08 Dec 2011
Anonandroiduser, 07 Dec 2011What Android phones where they?SE Xperia Mini, updated from 1.6 tot 2.1, then a SGS and the last again a SE XPERIA Arc. I updated this last one to 2.3.4 and that, to be completely honest, gave it a much better overall performance and lesser lagging. But, I'm using the iPhone 4S for two weeks and it's just at a whole other level...
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- Carphone Guy
- M3s
- 08 Dec 2011
Im sure if Apple made 500+ different handsets that run iOS, they would be in the same position as Google and Android.
In terms of the earlyer article explaining how Android has reached 10Billion Downloads, this is again down to having 500+ android handsets on the market, its all in perspective....but...this doesnt mean that Android is in anyway a superior OS.
People that purchase a cheap or expensive Android handset are buying into a company that only concentrate on QUANTITY not QUALITY...as quoted..."unit volume, Ice Cream Sandwich, the price is lower, there are more vendors."....more vendors being YOU...buying a cheap, mass produced handset.
As a result of so many Android handsets being produced and released is such short periods, handset value depreciates rediculously quick, in only 3 months your handset has lost 30% of its value with so many flagship phones coming out, 4 a year is it Samsung?
I think Google and their partner Manufacturers need to consentrate on making the operating system for Manufacturer specific, for example Samsung with have a OS built around there own UI, release updates just for thir particular handsets.....same with SE for example....this will stop what happens alot with androids...crashing and freezing, software not fully compatible with the handset and concentrate more on making handsets have their own buying factors apart from Manufacturer name and hardware.
It should be the fact of that samsung for example have certain shortcuts, UI and media capabilities that are unique to that device/manufacturer....like old Sony E's..everyone who wanted a great media player would buy one, but now ALL the androids do the same thing, theres no variety anymore...BUT YES i know they all look a little bit different but Samsung homescreen layout and SE's homescreen layout and the rest of them, just isnt unique enough.
I think if you want a handset will will still be worth nearly as much as what you purchased it for in 3 years time.......Buy an iOS Device
I think if you want a user friendly, smooth and simple layout.....Buy an iOS Device
If you want access to a huge selection of games, apps and utilities to keep your child side entertained but also be able to receive, edit and review Office documents simply, quickly and with minimal effort....Buy an iOS Device
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
"On the subject of whether Android is copying iOS, Schmidt didn't go much deeper than "Android was founded before the iPhone was." According to Google's CEO "Social, local and mobile" have been in human's history for the past 10,000 years and aren't going away any time soon."
i couldn't stop laughing at this statement.
http://www.karthikk.net/2011/10/how-android-looked-before-and-after-apples-ios/
When android first came out , it copied Blackberry (if u don't know) but when iPhone came they just made new framework , but didnt take time or patience to make a decent OS without lags.
There is difference for android.
in 2005 android ran on phones with scrolling button and keys (like blackberry) and after iOS came aka iPhone in 2007 they unveiled android for multitouch in 2008 i believe launched the phone with help of T-mobile.
I find it funny how Eric is brainwashing more than apple's marketing.
but i agree iOS copied things like notifications , social integration etc.
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- Bailey
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- 08 Dec 2011
Yes i agree with Eric in part because Android does have amazing volume and scale. You cant move for the different price points that you can get an Android handset at. But that is where my agreement ends
if you just Joe public generally you dont walk into your phone shop and ask the assistant what version of Android is this mobile running and if i buy it in 6 months will this handset still get an update.
There are so many holes in the Android way of thinking it is pure luck that it is as big as it is. imagine your developer trying to do a programme for every handset out there by the time you covered most of them 4 new ones would have sprung up. Also its way to easy to be a laxy developer on Android and have apps that really dont work as they should which forever bring up the force closer sign. As much as Andy declared that the in the Android market all apps work on a tablet that is pure crap and it would seem that Google dont really care about it. Music is beta at best and the film section is beta at best. where again seeing a Force closer sign is liking meeting your best friend. Laggy apps laggy interface how can it be that the new Google phone lags. And this one really kills me there are alot of people walking around with a Android handset and when you say to them thats what they have they really didnt know it.
How Apple wins time and time again is not bragging about specs. its about the fact that developers know what they are coding for, and apps are checked before they are allowed in (listening Google)yes every body on these bloggs keep moaning about how simple Apple is why do you need a degree to use a phone? Also the key thing that Apple has is not a brain washing manchine its what money cant buy mind share yes that is when people think of a smart phone one of the first things that will pop in they brains is Apple just like when you think of washing powder you will come up with Persil or Daz. When i say to friends you have a Android phones alot of time people are not aware they will tell you its an Htc phone or Samsung but they dont know what it is operating, with Apple its simple the white ear buds generally mean its an Apple product. When Mr Schmidt tells me he ahead of Apple i would say yea because you can pick up a sub standard £35 handset but that dose not mean i am getting a good experience from it.
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2011Huh? Not supported, cuz the Android version is 4 month old?... more"Huh? Not supported, cuz the Android version is 4 month old? You have no understanding of how a OS works, it seems and how Android makes its ways to the phone... Same would go for iOS, if there where more iOS devices or at least some from other manufacturers. Also same goes for Nokia with their Anna and now Belle update... do you consider it an old update, because other phones had it already? I am happy to get the latest firmware for my phone, even if I have to wait a bit, better than getting it buggy."
So what u said is exactly right.
What happend to Honeycomb ? They started working on it since 2010 and Xoom came out earlier this year and even today its considered bad OS with bugs and GSMarena recently pointed out android tablets lost share actually giving share to iPad !!(but 3.2 better than 3.0)
So u really think waiting is better ? Thats ur wish
stay on gingerbread until march and new phones come.
Buy that phone again and wait one more year for update to completely utilize ur phone's hardware.
(some user said gingerbread doesn't have full potential to use dual core etc. But for ICS u need another 6 months .............. why ? all apps need to be rewritten again , right now not even flash is supported.......... even that must be rewritten)
I just want to point out how facial recognization works on ICS ,
4S has face detection for rear camera this time and 8 MP.
What google did was used face detection for front camera.
So even if u put photo of that person infront of the phone. Phone unlocks !
is that "big" ? just using face detection feature on front camera instead of back one.
i think u must w8 until next november to get all u want.
too bad :((
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- AnonD-1825
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- 08 Dec 2011
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2011U know, your talking about the US. I love the US, lived the... moreI'm quite sure iPhone doing great almost everywhere in the world it's just hard to find those news about market share's, they mostly are from U.S.
You are talking about nokia and Finland. Finland top selling phone in three operators is iPhone 4S now. So it's doing great in Finland too.
What i readed iPhone doing great everywhere where it is sold :D doing better and better.
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
AnonD-5197, 08 Dec 2011Do some research, get some facts, then try again.research ? joke ?
read what i posted completely and refer to GSMArena articles u will get that i posted same things with actual "calculation"
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- AnonD-9023
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- 08 Dec 2011
Anonymous, 08 Dec 2011Huh? Not supported, cuz the Android version is 4 month old?... moreaccording to some people it won't happend until Jellybean (5.0) :
http://techland.time.com/2011/12/07/is-android-doomed-to-lag-more-than-ios/
As u can see TIME magazine is a famous one.
One of the user pointed out news came from cult of mac but GSMArena also isnt the first one to post the news , they read it somewhere and make analysis and post articles in blog as well as on main site.
Most of the news come first on other websites like cultofmac , 9to5google etc.
http://techland.time.com/2011/12/07/is-android-doomed-to-lag-more-than-ios/
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- Anonymous
- MVg
- 08 Dec 2011
Wins_CPT, 08 Dec 2011I think that what Google (Android) is missing - is that ass... moreandroid are not making things for any TD&H.. all they are doing is making affordable handset with smart phone capabilities. This helps the world use smart phones withouth paying high prices like the iphones. They are making prophet off the mass sales. But apple are making profits off a smaller market but charging a lot more. in the end its all about saving oney nowadays.. a phone is just a phone in the end. most people are not bothered about which is the best phone or hardware. they want value for money. thats life.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Dec 2011
It shouldn't say, Android already on top of the iPhone, but they can't build the design of any iPhones. At present iPhone 4/4s people is using anywhere in the world right now. Eric Schmidt must say, Android already on top of the iOS. Recently, Android have the biggest market share. Android manufacturers cannot make the design of the iPhone 4/4s, Android manufacturers also cannot build design just like Nokia Lumia 800, their Windows OS is very easy to use than Android OS and iOS.