Samsung explains the improvements brought by the Exynos 9820 in pictures

24 January 2019
The company believes that a capable chipset is essential for a modern flagship experience.

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  • 31 Oct 2021

Thats great

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    • mulkman
    • SYs
    • 04 Feb 2019

    Bring us electronic + optical stabilisation at 4k 60fps instead of focusing on 8k which is pointless.

    It's a joke

      Anonymous, 25 Jan 2019nobody said they will burden it, just that it is capable of... moreIts not about QHD.. That's pixel count. I'm not talking about recording either..

      Instead of 16 million colors (presently), each HDR pixel now has 1.09 billion colors to choose from... means more processing of data just to display colors..
      That means 64 times more colors than before...

      Don't you think that will make it burdened? Honestly, I'm not sure myself... I never thought this way...

      Maybe, the full colors will be displayed only on HDR content, is it??
      Our jpg images & mp4 videos will still be same 8 bit, so that will display in older colors only... is it?

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        • Anonymous
        • I8m
        • 28 Jan 2019

        Kangal, 28 Jan 2019It is essentially comparing a final refinement node (eg 20n... moreWhile you're not entirely off I don't things are looking as bad as you think they are.
        And the efficiencies won't be that huge. And more so from tmsc, 's process than the node.
        And the m3 definitely held some juice in areas. But between the high clocks, being power hungry, set up for benchmark numbers, a poor scheduler, and a couple other things of whatever it throttled down or just didn't beast every aspect of should have even when forced to run.

        At least they are working on a balance and hopefully put efficiency and longevity a little future ahead this time.
        The a75s could be a very good option contrasted to other outcomes or srtups for all we know.
        And the only reason they don't have 7nm to match is because their 7nm euv will be the first ready.
        And soon they will have very powerful well refined and more efficienct designs running here. Unfortunately their first stepping stone to it was a lazy and not well thought out. And poorly implemented.
        And mali might not be as efficient as adreno right now but the g76 is a good improvement. And despite all the claims that adreno is always better they definitely leap frogged numerous times.
        But they could still use a more powerful set up of the g76 but clearly needed to trade some of the money, focus, heat allowance, and other things in favor of the cpu side.

          Anonymous, 28 Jan 2019Still not a huge overall difference thoughIt is essentially comparing a final refinement node (eg 20nm) to a first-gen yields of a new node (eg 16nm).
          Kind of like comparing the Snapdragon 810 vs Exynos 7470, or Tegra X1 vs Kirin 950.
          On-marketing they seem quite close, but in real world the efficiencies were vastly different.

          So not only is Samsung at a disadvantage by using lower-grade lithography, they're also using a lower-grade Cortex A75 Middle-Core, also a larger and less efficient GPU and LTE radios. These add up to kill your efficiency.

          And whilst the first two Mongoose Custom cores were competitive, the third/previous M3 Core was hardly an improvement over the M2 and Cortex A73 in real-world use, and strayed far from the performance of the Cortex A75/QSD 845. So it means Samsung has a distance to catch up with their Large cores, and its not looking likely they will maintain/close the gap. So this will probably be another factor. And the culmination of these looks like it will let the best chip of 2019 be the Apple A12-Bionic, followed by the Apple A11-Bionic, then the QSD 855, followed by the Kirin 980, followed by the Exynos 9820 and equal to the QSD 845.

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            • Anonymous
            • I8m
            • 28 Jan 2019

            Kangal, 27 Jan 2019You're wrong. There's a huge difference between 7nm and 8n... moreStill not a huge overall difference though

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              • Anonymous
              • I8m
              • 27 Jan 2019

              Chee Khuan, 27 Jan 2019I don't care whether the Exynos 9820 is a beast or not. But... moreThere's more to it than cost. Why don't you research something before blubbering

                Vegetaholic, 26 Jan 2019Genius, Monngose 4th gen is based on latest and grestest ar... moreIt's too premature to call it that.
                The first two Custom Mongoose Cores were competitive to the likes of Slightly modified and Stock ARM Cortex A72 and A73 cores, and the Kryo 100-cores.

                The idea sounds appealing. But the implementation is what truly matters. Maybe the Dualcore M4 can match the Apple A11 in single-core performance AND also SUSTAIN ITSELF, which would be better than the QSD 855/Kirin 980.
                And maybe the dual Cortex A75 cores will be enough for high-end tasks while sipping power. To match the likes of the lower-power Kirin 980 cores/QSD 855 cores. And provide Oomph to rival something like the QSD 821/710/675.

                In that scenario, the Exynos 9820 will be better than the QSD 855. But again, it all comes down to the implementation. Not to mention Radio Performance, GPU Performance, and Battery Life.

                Personally, I think we will see obvious improvements over the Exynos 9810, but I barely see it competing with the likes of the QSD 845. It will get outclassed by the Kirin 980 in latency, overall performance, and battery life... and have an even worse matchup against the more refined QSD 855 SoC.

                  Vegetaholic, 26 Jan 2019Because 7 to 8nm there litteraly no differences. From 10 to... moreYou're wrong.
                  There's a huge difference between 7nm and 8nm. The 7nm is a true die shrink, and it brings many improvements from the previous 14nm node. Samsung's supposed 8nm is simply marketing, because it is a more refined 10nm part. And 10nm itself isn't really a proper node shrink, it's a refinement over the 14nm nodes.

                  Between Samsung's 8nm dies and Intel's 14nm+++++ (no really, that's the name), I would take Intel's die. But I would take TSMC's 7nm die instead of both.

                  Samsung's 7nm wafers will be ready for the market in Late 2019, and it should be better than the current TSMC 7nm products. In 2020, Samsung expects to release their refined-5nm nodes alongside TSMC, and AMD has confirmed using it for Zen3/Ryzen 5000-series, and possibly see it in the PS5 or Xbox V.

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                    • Chee Khuan
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                    • 27 Jan 2019

                    Vegetaholic, 26 Jan 2019Genius, Monngose 4th gen is based on latest and grestest ar... moreI don't care whether the Exynos 9820 is a beast or not. But the fact is they still have two outdated Cortex A-75 in the chip if compare with the Kirin 980.

                    That's the way SAMSUNG is doing to minimise the cost and sell the phones with higher price to maximise the profit.

                      Miu, 26 Jan 2019Yeah why 8nm but not 7nm? Can someone in here explain to us.Because 7 to 8nm there litteraly no differences. From 10 to 8 is only improved 10 percent efficiency, so between 7 or 8 would be few percentages not worthy at all, considering it would be much more difficult to manucture 7nm and cost much more for Samsung than Manufture 8nm just to get few percentage of efficienty. Samsung knows what they are doing.

                        Chee Khuan, 26 Jan 2019Yes, SAMSUNG is moving backwards. HUAWEI Kirin 980 alrea... moreGenius, Monngose 4th gen is based on latest and grestest archicture which desteous your Kirin 980 to peaces. Learn to read. 2 custom M4(which is better than A76 on Kirin), 2 A75 and 4 A55, it is absolitely beast, and even beats 855 cpu

                          Definitely beastly chipset, considering single core performnce will rival Apple A series, and for Android and iOS apps, mostly that what is matters. All apps usually use only two cores or one, for power efficiency and easy programming, only few games uses more than two cores, not like real multicore OS'es like Windows, Linux or Mac, multi-core performance basically does not matter in Android or iOS world except in few games and benchmarks. This is going to be one of the Android champion in realtime usage scenarios. Considering even GPU is much better than Kirin 980, exynos will be best chipset for Android expereimce with SD 855 alike, leaving Kirin 980 for beggers :)

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                            • Anonymous
                            • I8m
                            • 26 Jan 2019

                            Miu, 26 Jan 2019Yeah why 8nm but not 7nm? Can someone in here explain to us.If I'm right it's because for their 7nm Samsung has focused on their newer euv process of making socs. Ultra violet vs the standard methods. But I'm guessing they couldn't quite push out enough yield rates for the s10. And they hadn't quite gotten their standard lithography process there yet either. But 8nmLpp is right there.
                            Where as TMSC who doesn't really even have euv yet pushed ahead focus on 7nm. But their own lithography process is pretty advanced on its own.

                            Note 10 might taste an euv chip though.
                            And next year might see a slew of things. Euv chips, 4k displays and more immersive vr, graphene batteries, larger camera sensors, ddr5 ram, ufs 3.0, hopefully joled displays, of course foldable devices.
                            Followed by in the next couple years 5nm chips and graphene chips.
                            Now if only all this matched a more fair price and actually putting all this into a more functional longer lasting device. Rather than a thin fragile slab that is made to be outdated and barely upgraded into the next generation.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • I8m
                              • 26 Jan 2019

                              Chee Khuan, 26 Jan 2019Yes, SAMSUNG is moving backwards. HUAWEI Kirin 980 alrea... moreClearly that's far from the entire story of the entire picture let alone just the soc.

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                                • Chee Khuan
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                                • 26 Jan 2019

                                Anonymous, 25 Jan 2019Kirin 980 = 7nm (from 2018) Exynos 9820 = 8nm (from 2019) ... moreYes, SAMSUNG is moving backwards.

                                HUAWEI Kirin 980 already put Cortex A-76 in their processor, but SAMSUNG still put an outdated Cortex A-75 in their Exynos 9820 and sell with higher price.

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                                  • Miu
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                                  • 26 Jan 2019

                                  Anonymous, 25 Jan 2019Kirin 980 = 7nm (from 2018) Exynos 9820 = 8nm (from 2019) ... moreYeah why 8nm but not 7nm? Can someone in here explain to us.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • 63y
                                    • 26 Jan 2019

                                    Is this chipset able to handle rSAP and dual sim ?

                                      Anonymous, 25 Jan 2019Then you don't know what you are talking aboutHow so? Pretty sure I've seen posts stating that the SD series are the best overall combination.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • I8m
                                        • 25 Jan 2019

                                        Lyndino, 25 Jan 2019Then get the SD, best all round from everybody on this site.Then you don't know what you are talking about

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