Qualcomm unveils 11nm Snapdragon 665, 8nm Snapdragon 730 and 730G with improved graphics
- Kangal
- RN8
- 10 Apr 2019
AnonD-558092, 10 Apr 2019It goes without saying that the situation is a mess. Nothin... moreI'd look at the Snapdragon Portfolio like this lineup below.
We have come from this:
QSD 617, QSD 650, QSD 653, QSD 835
To the current market:
QSD 625, QSD 636, QSD 712, QSD 845
And in the near future to the:
QSD 632, QSD 665, QSD 730, QSD 855 (or faster)
2GB RAM, 4GB RAM, 6GB RAM, 8GB RAM (or more)
NAND 32GB, 64GB, 128GB, and 256GB storage (or more)
USD ~$100, ~$200, ~$300, and ~$500 (and more)
PS: I don't really see much need for phones cheaper than ~US $100 to have a Snapdragon chipset, since at that very tight budget you have bigger concerns, and you can get by with a Exynos, Kirin, MediaTek, RockChip, AMLogic Allwinner, etc etc.
I also don't see much need for these weird intermediate chipsets like the QSD 660, 670, 675, 710. When you can get-by with the QSD 636 on the lower side of the scale, and the QSD 712 on the higher side of the scale.
Which is why I think it's possible we are looking at a new lineup refresh (discontinuing chipsets like the QSD 625, 636, 660, 670, 710, 712) to focus on the new/better/more advanced chipsets.
....you know, to stay competitive and relevant in the market against the alternatives!
- Kangal
- RN8
- 10 Apr 2019
Bla, 10 Apr 2019So you are saying by your logic that 820 is not a succsesor... moreNo, I never said that, and if anything I think the opposite. In chipsets, you want the smallest (ie Most Advanced) lithography, the latest Big Cores, a lot of decent Small Cores, and many repetitive graphical cores.
You clearly don't know these chips as much as you try to make it sound. The QSD 636 is a better SoC than the old QSD 653 chip, nevermind the 652 and 650. And the QSD 660 is a slightly overclocked version of it (both CPU and GPU).
Maybe you got my comment mixed with someone else?
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- Bla
- LiQ
- 10 Apr 2019
Kangal, 10 Apr 2019Yeah, he didn't know.
Also the QSD 636/660 are on the 14nm... moreSo you are saying by your logic that 820 is not a succsesor to 810 since they are built in different finnet. 835 is not a succsesor to 820 because it is smaller die? Thats called technology progress.
Tell me guys, which is the first mid-range SD chipset to incorporate powerfull A7x cores into their chipset?
650/652/653
Next question, which is the second one being released in the same mid-range class also with A7x cores?
660
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- LiQ
- 10 Apr 2019
Shanti Dope, 10 Apr 2019636 is technically an underclocked 660, so we can say that ... moreYou are talking about cpu only and chipset is not only cpu. 660 is a succesor to 650/652 and 636 is another mid-range succesor to 630. Look at the release dates of each one. 636 is much younger then 660. In fact before 660 there was only 650/652 to have pretty significant processing power of only one or maybe two generation old top chipsets. 650/652 was the first Qualcomm try with "premium mid-range" specs.
- Kangal
- RN8
- 10 Apr 2019
Shanti Dope, 10 Apr 2019636 is technically an underclocked 660, so we can say that ... moreYeah, he didn't know.
Also the QSD 636/660 are on the 14nm node, whereas the QSD 650/652/653 are on the 28nm node. Big lithography difference there.
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- fvK
- 10 Apr 2019
Comparing SD730 to SD665, it doesn't make sense that the earlier has less 36 MP than the latter's 48 MP as mentioned in your article:
"Also new in the 730 are the Adreno 618 GPU (which promises 25% increased performance), Hexagon 688 DSP, and Spectra 350 ISP, the latter of which enables up to a 36 MP single main camera or..."
I referred to https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/snapdragon-730-mobile-platform-product-brief.pdf and found that 36 MP is actually a mode for the SD730 camera but it can be 48 MP and even go up to 192 MP with limitations of course!
So If I may suggest, choose a camera mode (e.g. maximum resolution or with "MFNR,
ZSL,...") for all processors for a clear comparison. Thank you...
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- Shanti Dope
- vaS
- 10 Apr 2019
Bla, 10 Apr 2019"Qualcomm is discontinuing it's low-end models (QSD 636 and... more636 is technically an underclocked 660, so we can say that both of them are the successor of the 650/652/653.
636 is superior to 650 due to having 2 more A73 cores.
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- Anonymous
- 043
- 10 Apr 2019
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2019It is dragon that can snap apples ... oh snap
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- Bla
- LiQ
- 10 Apr 2019
Kangal, 09 Apr 2019Those lithography numbers are little more than marketing at... more"Qualcomm is discontinuing it's low-end models (QSD 636 and QSD 660) and replacing them. Just like how the QSD 636 replaced the QSD 650 and QSD 652/653".
Low-end models? Ever heard for 400 series?
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636 has custom Cortex A53 cores, 650/652 has cluster of Cortex A72 and they both have pretty much same performance, only 636 is much better with battery. 660 would be the succesor to 650/652 not 636.
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- Vyshak75
- L1w
- 10 Apr 2019
The galaxy A90 was rumoured to have an unannounced 7 series snapdragon. May be this is it. 😅
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- AnonD-558092
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- 10 Apr 2019
Kangal, 09 Apr 2019Those lithography numbers are little more than marketing at... moreIt goes without saying that the situation is a mess. Nothing truly new besides lithography being thrown into the segmentation mix.
I'd honestly only have a handful of chips a year. Premium 8 series, binned 8 series as 7 series for premium midrange, 6 series for low-power midrange, binned 6 series as 4 series for low-end. There would be only two actual different chips and their binned counterparts. Alternatively, you could have some binned*2 chips to improve yields.
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- AnonD-558092
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- 10 Apr 2019
, 10 Apr 2019WTF is a snapdragon LMAOMessy segmentation.
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- Anonymous
- tVv
- 10 Apr 2019
coming soon to mobile device. 1 year later, device that use this chipset can be count with fingers. Similar case with snapdragon 710.
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- .alpha
- s9Z
- 10 Apr 2019
TSMC's 7nm is still reserved for the highest end SoC
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- Anonymous
- Ix1
- 10 Apr 2019
, 10 Apr 2019WTF is a snapdragon LMAOA flower
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- Anonymous
- uvF
- 10 Apr 2019
All of these will be manufacture at Samsung foundry.
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- BiyoBiyo JunJun
- TSQ
- 10 Apr 2019
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2019It is dragon that can snap apples ... ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh ~~~~~~~
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- Anonymous
- LQu
- 10 Apr 2019
, 10 Apr 2019WTF is a snapdragon LMAOIt is dragon that can snap apples ...
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- Shanti Dope
- vaS
- 10 Apr 2019
, 10 Apr 2019WTF is a snapdragon LMAOSomething that gives the best performance for Android devices and can be relied on for a very long time, with the greatest support from software developers.
Snapdragon is something that brought 5G to this world, which obligated others to follow suit instead of being left behind.