IDC: Apple bleeds market share as EMEA smartphone sales drop in Q1

12 June 2019
Fast growth in Africa and stagnation everywhere else.

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Anonymous, 13 Jun 2019That's because the average income in India is lower than th... moreI would buy a kia. It's way better than mercedes in terms of reliability and looks.
Samsung and huawei flagships prices are close to iphone and more expensive than xr. So why people are still buying them? People are buying iphones because they are luxury products. So if they had the same prices no one would buy them. People are still believing that more expensive product means ut's better. They will just believe that there us something better that explains why it's more expensive. Sometimes high prices is a feature and not a con.

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    • 13 Jun 2019

    acemang, 13 Jun 2019You talk about compromises but you don't explain what they ... moreHaha! The socks example was just an example for the sake of comparison. I am actually wearing bamboo socks as I'm writing this comment. :)

    A few of the drawbacks of using android are:

    - inconsistent user uexperience
    - inconsistent user interface design
    - inconsistent compatibility and connectivity with other devices
    - insecure, no way to make your data inaccessible to other parties
    - many security holes
    - APIs designed to allow user monitoring and tracking
    - as you mentioned, inconsistent updates and short product life cycle
    - play store filled with buggy apps
    - play store apps that contain malware and adware which can gain root access to your device
    - apps that steal your contacts, notes, scan your emails, etc.
    - apps that close unexpectedly or need to be force closed
    - needs enormous amounts of RAM to get decent performance
    - needs high-end CPU to get decent performance, whereas iPhones work great even in their 4th year of use
    - support is limited and you don't get the same level of support you get from Apple
    - inconvenient warranty procedures, as you need to send your device to a service centre and it might not even get repaired or replaced. With Apple, you get Apple Stores almost everywhere, and everything is organised there. You get replacements and fixes fast and easy
    - you cannot use android and the play store without being tied to google's tracking services. You can use Apple devices without ever touching a google webpage or service
    - android offers products in exchange for users' private data and some money. Apple offers products and only asks for money
    - you don't get an amazing ecosystem with android. Whereas everything just works with Apple devices, especially when you connect them together, along with Apple's services, and use them all to their full potential

    And the list can go on.

    Now, I'm not bashing android, I'm just mentioning that android devices can't be equal or even close to Apple's devices. They have very different core mentalities behind them.

      Anonymous, 13 Jun 2019Using android and/or chinese-designed-and-made devices has ... moreYou talk about compromises but you don't explain what they are. Updates? Hardware quality? Software experience? other issues?
      All are debatable and all you can have them in Android World.
      You talk about 100% cotton socks? well there are lots of brands that sells 100% cotton with different prices. if you pay 50 euros for a socks that have exact same material than ones that cost 10 euros, most likely made in same factory you are paying for the brand, not for the quality of the product. That was my point. If you are lazy you will get the 50 euros because you know you will get a "premium" socks from the brand you know and trust. But if you dig a little you will get same quality ones 5x cheaper. And continuing with the socks example. This days are much better materials than 100% cotton socks.
      I've bamboo socks that are much better than any 100% cotton ones. Merino wool socks are also 10x better than any 100% cotton.
      Ofc, a person that is lazy and think the ones he buys for 10 years are the best in the world and the rest of the world just stopped in time, he still think what he buy is still the best there is.
      What I'm saying is that is not true anymore. I had an iphone 3G back in the days, it was years ahead of any phone in that time. Not anymore.
      You just need to be informed, nothing more.
      Don't get me wrong. iPhones are a very good smartphones. Myself, I was almost convinced to buy an iPhone xs. But not the because the things you and I mention. the only reason I considered was because of the size. 99% of new Android devices are made for Indian and Chinese market...they are HUGE phones. I hate them. the only 3 phones I considered this year was Samsung s10e, Pixel 3 and iPhone xs and the only reason was the size. I know they are all excellent and would have great experience with any of them.

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        • 13 Jun 2019

        acemang, 13 Jun 2019Huawei have a better marketing machine, Huawei android ski... moreUsing android and/or chinese-designed-and-made devices has many drawbacks.
        Apple users don't like compromises and they are comfortable spending a bit more in order to get a better product and experience overall.

        I like 100% cotton socks and I am willing to pay twice as much as 80% cotton & 20% polyamid socks cost.
        I like the feel of silk robes and I am prepared to pay 10x the price of what a saten robe costs. (or more)
        If I had to choose between a 500mbit internet connection for $50 a month, and a 1gigabit for $150, I would choose the Gigabit connection even though it's overpriced compared to the 500Mb one.

          Huawei have a better marketing machine,
          Huawei android skin is pretty much a copy of IOS, so an Apple user will be comfortable to use with almost 0 learning curve.
          Huawei devices are better than Samsung in terms of quality and durability.

          Lots of people are opening their eyes and seeing that Apple ecosystem is to expensive to maintain and the return doesn't justify the extra cost.
          Don't get me wrong, Apple products are pretty much the "best" what you can get. But not for the money they ask. Other companies also provide same level of excellence and experience or better for less. Americans I guess are to lazy to try others.

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            • 13 Jun 2019

            Anonymous, 13 Jun 2019Why you think that Huawei is threat for Apple in US if any ... moreYes they have there their castle. But US is only a piece of the cake in the world. While now clearly despide the global drop in sales, some still grow their sales in the Android world. And people out there now prefer the new evolved Android phones plenty of features and designs before buy the refurbished flagship phones from Apple. Even people in US embraced the XR as the plausible phone to no leave the invested in that ecosystem due to insane prices of their XS and XS Max. It's their best seller for tha reason despite the worst specifications agaisnt competitors. Anyhow the sales show too that part ot them migrated to Android equally.

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              • 13 Jun 2019

              aknsreddy, 13 Jun 2019Well not in India. Here Mi and Samsung rule the market. For... moreThat's because the average income in India is lower than that in the US. When money is not really a problem, people go for the better tech, even though it's a bit more expensive.

              If all tech products were absolutely FREE for everyone, 90% of the population would use Apple's devices and systems. And the other 10% would use luxury versions of these, with maybe gold coatings, diamond ecrustings, etc.

              If all car brands would price their car models the same, 90% of the population would buy Mercedes. The other 10% would buy luxyury brands like Bugatti, Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin, etc.

              The more money a country generates, the less people care about cheap alternatives that are not that good. They will only go for the best of the best, as it's affordable. They would not care about getting lower prices and being showed ads in return. In a rich world, google and facebook would have no ads to sell, as everyone would opt out of getting ads in their lives.

              Think of it like this: if all technology was free to use and you'd have access to everything you can think of, would you still use windows/android or will you go for the best option available (Mac/iOS)?
              If you could get any mainstream car model in the world for $1, would you buy a Kia or would you get a Mercedes?

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                • 13 Jun 2019

                Where is tecno? It's the best selling in africa

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                  • 13 Jun 2019

                  blue.sun, 13 Jun 2019Nearly 23 % drop of sales for Apple? No wonder Trump impose... moreWhy you think that Huawei is threat for Apple in US if any other android OEM isn't? what Huawei does better than for example Samsung? if Samsung can't steal Apple share in US i really can't see how Huawei could?

                  People especially in US buy iPhone because of the iOS ecosystem.

                    Maybe it's time to Apple lower their prices. I mean they can still make a huge amount of money but FFS selling a 400EUR phone which has not even a single innovation in it for 1449EUR causes such a result.
                    Just to remind you, they sell a piece of aluminum for 999EUR, it is 99% pure money in Apple's pocket.

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                      • 13 Jun 2019

                      Nearly 23 % drop of sales for Apple? No wonder Trump imposed sanctions on Huawei, when they grow so fast.
                      And HMD, that's simply disappointing, but so expected. Long waiting for high-end models, the top Nokia 9 was a great disappointment.

                        Anonymous, 13 Jun 2019youre surely live in america where in Huawei is banned and ... moreWell not in India. Here Mi and Samsung rule the market. For premium phones Samsung and poco are famous. Huawei is no where seen.

                          Buying an iPhone in India is a rip-off. And sincerely wish they go bankruptcy for selling unreasonable expensive luxury things

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                            Chithu, 13 Jun 2019My new iPhone 6s plus heats up in 5 seconds while Playing a... moreYou mean your 4 year old phone heats up?
                            wow!
                            My 6 year old iPhone 5S is used a satnav for apple carplay in my car and it works fine.
                            My 3 year old iPhone 7 Plus is crazy fast, lasts a day and it does everything I need. Plus I can literally swap my 7 Plus for a Mate 30 Pro in the UK. Resale value of iPhone is the best in the sector and Huawei's by far the worst!

                            I have had a lot of phones including Samsung S8, OnePlus 6, and Huawei P Smart.
                            The iPhones age much better and hold their value and have a very solid performance in pretty much everything.

                            In the UK that is. I have lived in other countries (for work projects) where there's no apple infrastructure and iPhones were crippled. You need to be in a country with an Apple Store to benefit from it. Countries without Apple Stores are countries where Apple products were not meant to be used at. No apple services and no apple specific network files. Yes. On iPhone the carriers have specific apple network profiles that get updated. You even get notification to update carrier settings. That's why I had Androids. I

                              Phew! The US stopped Huawei's growth just in time.
                              Huawei were about to pounce Samsung & Apple.

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                                Chithu, 13 Jun 2019My new iPhone 6s plus heats up in 5 seconds while Playing a... moreMan here ibn Slovakia brand new Apple 6s plus cost no more than 200 euros.
                                Paying 500 for many years old device its a pure robbery it was brainless of you.
                                Besides apple was never good a gaming phone.
                                Their weak batteries die before you start enjoying any game.

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                                  • 13 Jun 2019

                                  this is before Huawei ban by USA. future there will be a hard time for them. but every one trust they can change the mobile market immediately. everyone knows what kind of innovation they innovate to world mobile market under low-cost mobile too with good high range facilities.

                                  Apple should think about customers because the expensive price might be not an option for every one with non expencive fetures

                                    Damn Huawei waa close to Samsung and people hold on to phone longer because prices are insane and even low end is good enough to run browsee and social media apps without problem and there is lack of innovation

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                                      • 13 Jun 2019

                                      Probably Apple included in their sales the refurbished phones. And this is the result. People buying those ones don't care about new phones. And until the new models with new design upcoming to the refurbished market it'll take a lot time. Perhaps even two years before there is something interesting at good price depending what you are looking for.

                                      Meanwhile, part of those one migrate to Android because in that way they can buy new ones with the latest technology cheaper than what Apple offer. And more if you buy a mid-range phone with an SD710-SD730 that for a lot of people is more than enough, with under display fingerprint sensor, the latest 48Mp cameras, even with OIS at half price of what Apple offer and with a modern design and good look. The refurbished from Apple aren't now as attractive than years ago.

                                      Apple need a big change in design, but watching the leaks, it seems that nothing new is expected until late 2020.

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                                        • 13 Jun 2019

                                        sadh, 13 Jun 2019The f HMD was doing. They are damn new and the sales are al... moreOnly problems for HMD is the naming scheme for their Nokia phones, warranty, delay of software updates and camera.