vivo announces iQOO 5G ahead of Q3 launch, talks AR and 120W charging

25 June 2019
The iQOO 5G can drive vivo's newly announced AR glasses. Also, after a day connected to a 5G network, its battery was at 70%.

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Hmm..., 27 Jun 2019Obviously it's going to degrade, just how much of a degrada... moreYou've made so many easy assumptions

You've assumed that the battery is one large cell like traditional batteries

You've assumed the 120watts is hitting the battery like traditional batteries.

You did this because it's easier to put fast charging in a box of the same old principles than having the curiosity of what this technology might be doing differently

    CptPower, 26 Jun 2019Well i am not sure about. European union will not let the... moreAgreed, just never take things at face value

      Hmm..., 27 Jun 2019Obviously it's going to degrade, just how much of a degrada... moreWell we will see maybe they found a solution how this will works without any cons.

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        CptPower, 25 Jun 2019Well i am not sure and i dont think so. They i think they... moreObviously it's going to degrade, just how much of a degradation going to happen to the battery we don't exactly know. This is given that a lower charge has a lower degradation compare to a higher one. This applies to all rechargeable batteries since from past to present. So yes 120 watt will charge really fast but at the same time will kill the battery really fast with a decent chance of exploding.

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          Geez! That is a lot of power! 120 watts I don't think that is a safe number to handle, yes you can charge it even higher but... The danger of malfunctioning is great! How long did they run the test for failure? Is Vivo really confident nothing will happen though everyday use as well as rough handling? I don't know that is a dangerous amount of energy on small battery.

            Walter C. Dornez, 26 Jun 2019Weird analogy again, but still skeptical. Oppo pretty much ... moreWell i am not sure about.
            European union will not let them to create and sell something which could be harmfull and dangerous.
            I am not saying NO unless the tech s created tested and have a long term positive reviews.
            So lets see.
            Unless that i wont criticize.

              CptPower, 25 Jun 2019Well i am not sure and i dont think so. They i think they... moreWeird analogy again, but still skeptical. Oppo pretty much released the fact that they had tech that wasn't ready (underscreen camera) so as it stands, Chinese companies don't care if it works long term, it just needs to work now

                Trooper, 25 Jun 2019"The latency on the next-gen networks can be reduced by 10m... moresorry you missed the Data CAP.

                5G allows companies to give you more GB per month at the same price.

                so lets say your Data CAP is 8GB per month ... 5G will give you 100GB per month for the same price

                  Mel, 25 Jun 2019in my experience on cellphone chargers. the more powerful a... moreNope.

                  the new technology is breaking the battery into 12 smaller connected batteries each use 10 watts , total 120 watt .. but still EACH 10 watts only.

                  so a 4000 battery will be inside 12x333 small batteries in parallel. each charged using 10 watts.

                  This is the secret behind it. it is not 120 watts on the battery as you think. it is 120 watts for 12 batteries each 10 watts only

                    Woowww, 120W.

                      Peter-B, 25 Jun 2019I'm no electrician, but for 20A you will need much thicker ... moreI imagine the cable being as thick as perhaps many laptop chargers today, and even taking that into consideration, I feel like it won't really matter a lot, since the benefit is pretty huge anyway.
                      Others may feel different, but when it comes to safety and longevity of the device, I do believe that this is the better approach.
                      Still, props is props to where it's due, and here's to hope that this new setup would work out well and set the new standards for fast charging solutions.
                      Thanks and have a great day! :-))

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                        in my experience on cellphone chargers. the more powerful and fast it charges, the more faster your battery breaks! I rather to use slow charger that more ( the highest 10watts ) I'm ok! I have battery pack anyways to charge it when I needed.

                          I wonder if the 120W charger is free inside the box.

                          I would be happy with a free 60W charger. :-)

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                            IpsDisplay, 25 Jun 2019Picture a road and cars driving on it there are two ways to... moreThank you, that certainly explains a lot.

                              Walter C. Dornez, 25 Jun 2019I don't know about 120W though. The battery is totally goin... moreWell i am not sure and i dont think so.
                              They i think they really found the solution how the wolf will be fed but the goat will be spared from brutality.

                                CptPower, 25 Jun 2019By the way 120W is awesome if we compare some other brand w... moreI don't know about 120W though. The battery is totally going to degrade quick, even with precautions.

                                  Anonymous, 25 Jun 2019Could you kindly explain the differences ?!Picture a road and cars driving on it there are two ways to handle the traffic:

                                  1) increasing the voltage means to have each individual car drive FASTER to reduce traffic but faster cars mean more heat (for the smartphone battery)

                                  2)Increasing ampere means adding more LANES but the individual cars Don have to drive any faster

                                  So even though 20v multiplied by 6A , and 6V multiplied by 20A equals to the same 120 watts

                                  They approach is different one generates more heat on the battery the other results in thicker cables

                                  Because batteries are chemical they really don't like heat that's why some praise higher ampere approach

                                  Cars represent the electricity by the way.

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                                    Anonymous, 25 Jun 2019I thought usb type c can't support more than 100WIt can't . Vivo is making bomb . Chinese company are racing charge speed now .

                                      Shanti Dope, 25 Jun 2019Wish it was the other way around: 6V/20AI'm no electrician, but for 20A you will need much thicker cables. I couldn't find data about 6V, but for 12V it looks like the recommended conductor thickness is 1.5-2.5mm². That's just the copper core of the cable and you need two! That's going to be one chunky USB cable.

                                      https://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/cablesizes.htm

                                        By the way 120W is awesome if we compare some other brand which dont adds even quickcharge into the box with their cellphones and ask more than 1000 for that kind of a phone. And these kind f phones doesnt even support this quickcharging.