Fuchsia OS is moving forward - developer portal goes live
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- Wayne Morellini
- 7tn
- 30 Jun 2019
Anonymous, 30 Jun 2019It is not nice actually. Google leaving behind the open sou... moreHere you go, you can crowd fund me. A rough estimate, at least $10 million dollars, including a million for the first year's of patents. Of course I can't tell you anything about it for IP reasons, until it's finished. But to stop hackers, I'll have to put it in a sealed chip shaped like a black box so that nobody knows how it works inside. Oh, you said "crowd sourced". Make up your mind, do you want a really better OS, or something written by a group of people? :)
Seriously. I was trying to design the best OS in the 1980's until the 2000's, and this Fuchsia OS is trying to achieve what I was trying to design back then, but you don't want an open source group designing it. I have not seen an OS that has achieved this level, and open source is a bit like a copychook with it's head cut off. Before Linux was Unix, and part of this was C language developed with it. So, without leadership and good team, to develop something good, you land up copying, competing with other commercial OS's by copying, or writing bad.
The Fuchsia OS is a good move but I don't know how well it will go, with the past Android history. I've written in heaps of functional improvement suggestions to google, with a number adopted in Android and some apps. Things like moving to a user selectable permission model, blacklisting etc etc. Not that my exact versions of these things were adopted. I used to do this with Opera web browser before the guy who cared left and started Viladi, with a number of work flow improvements. Also, a few times with Microsoft, the first was getting rid of the Blue Screen of Death. Literally, most developers can't see new or old solutions well, and you need the right people getting paid for good work, not just a leader (unless it's a small/simple project etc).
The type of person needed is capable, mindful, innovative and efficient. Speed is nice, but brain is needed more. Real time embedded deterministic programming is needed. This will explain why some commercial projects have gone off the rails so much, corporate types hiring who they think is acceptable, is a problem. Very few programmers are very good, and there is something like 1000:1 difference between the best and worse. I would go for 1 in an 1000 people to program and design it. Ultimately, you want a 1 in an million type person to lead it. You should get something good. No internships. 1 in 10's are hopelessly, supervisor in a mechanical shop level, 1 in an 100 maybe a good small business owner. 1 in an 1000 you could maybe make a feature film about, and would be extraordinary. But, a lot of these people could be tied up in their own careers or businesses.
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- Anonymous
- 39h
- 30 Jun 2019
Looking at the dev information, I read "Banjo", "Agent", and "Bus driver" on the same page.
Making up cool and funny terms for everything is never a good idea. Just call it what it is.
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- Anonymous
- Ke1
- 30 Jun 2019
Anonymous, 30 Jun 2019Release any OS you want. But only for computers. For phones... moreI think the future is 1 OS runs all so it's easier to maintain and develop apps for it. And if it's more efficient than Android, i don't see why they can't replace it.
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- Anonymous
- Ke1
- 30 Jun 2019
Anonymous, 30 Jun 2019There is a ton of different Linix distributions, BSD variat... moreSo you are binging it?
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- Anonymous
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- 30 Jun 2019
There is a ton of different Linix distributions, BSD variations and and a lot obscure open source OSs. I mean I'm all for open source software but also against anything Google. It can be the most secure, privacy oriented, full of features, very stable OS ever made but personally I will never use it simply because it's made by Google.
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- Anonymous
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- 30 Jun 2019
Release any OS you want. But only for computers. For phones you need to keep android.
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- AnonD-731363
- SH3
- 30 Jun 2019
Well now its looks likes windows was failuer but now more OS than android and IOS comes to the life from ashes of one which given the space to others.
Fuchsia should and would be succesfull like ARK OS or HONGMENG.
Lets see.
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- Wayne.
- 7tn
- 30 Jun 2019
Didn't somebody mention internet of things use before? What do they need a vulkan based renderer on those for anyway. That's the sort of think you use for desktop.
Sure! They say they don't want to replace Android with it, but experiment instead. They'll likely experiment and move things over to their existing OS's, or replace them. If they want to experiment, you really need a content base to experiment on.
A company with Google's resources should be able to put up an OS candidate in one month, if they kept it compact and new what they were doing. Then test it to see if it needs to be revised before making release plans. Not that many companies are at all that good, but this is taking far too long.
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- Anonymous
- 3A3
- 30 Jun 2019
ilikechoking, 30 Jun 2019It is nice to see that Google is putting in the effort to c... moreIt is not nice actually. Google leaving behind the open source community is bad news for everybody, especially google who will be eventually surpassed by whomever would crowd source (basically) a better OS eventually. And when that happens Google, Apple and Microsoft (the three riders) will fight it tooth and nail because they are willing to control our live with the closed source OS of theirs.
Also the idea of creating a new OS instead of generalizing android is so tricking backwards. Take a page from Apple, Google. IpadOS would compete just as well with Chrome OS, there was never a need for a MacOS / IOS hybrid. Merely an expanded iOS which would eventually take over everything.
Android OS their crown jewel, Chrome OS is kind of sh*t and everybody I know uninstall it to install Actual Linux on their Chromebooks so that they may achieve some real work...
No need for a new OS. Just expand your succesfull one...
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- Isaac tech guy
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- 30 Jun 2019
Android os: successful
Chrome os for PC: Fail
Fuchsia os: yet to find out
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- sadh
- 61w
- 30 Jun 2019
Anonymous, 30 Jun 2019As a programmer, who used flutter. Yes you can build a nice... moreYup, i somehow always find Flutter app is a bit jaring. Not as smooth as native. And not to mention I just love java T-T
- Walter C. Dornez
- ktv
- 30 Jun 2019
Is it possible to gain the compatibility and resource light smoothness while keeping the overall maturity and functionality of Android?
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- ilikechoking
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- 30 Jun 2019
It is nice to see that Google is putting in the effort to create a unified operating system, but I would prefer to use Android's user interface in mobile Fuchsia if possible.
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- Anonymous
- T6s
- 30 Jun 2019
As a programmer, who used flutter. Yes you can build a nice UI, but no the performance of flutter is no where near iOS swift and Android Java code. Obviously it depends on your app, but the native Java and swift are always faster