2020 iPhones to have smaller notches, first all-screen iPhone expected in 2021

11 July 2019
The fullscreen iPhone is coming in two years, next year's versions will shrink the notch.

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  • 20 Jul 2019

AnonD-731363, 20 Jul 2019Well i understand but i still thinks 400 dolars made phone ... moreYou will never let go of this 1500 number :D
I don't know anyone who has got the absolute maximum device and most people go for the 1000 device.
It's just like the xiaomi device with added gold and diamonds and selling for crazy price. Only a few people will buy it and most people won't. If i was just like u then I would use that gold device to use against xiaomi as their price point but it's not true. Their golden device is just limited for a few just like apples 1500 device is made for the few.
I can keep posting comments xiaomi selling device for 6000 everyday but i don't want to be like you.

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    • 20 Jul 2019

    kalel, 19 Jul 2019That's all understandable and it's very good of you to help... moreWell i understand but i still thinks 400 dolars made phone is sold for 1500+.
    Just a small but real example.
    Brand new S9 and S9 plus the cheapest option had 4GB ram and 64GB disk space and 6GB ram and 64GB diisk space for S9+ and in a samsung store their prices was 899 euros ad 999 euros initial sale.
    Just half year from that since half november they had an Xmas sale where S9 had price of 449 euros and S9+ 549 euros.
    If 50% sale can make a profit then dont try to tell me thry dont rob their customers.
    The initial price were always high on most brands like Sony, Apple, Samsung, etc. and just few weeks after when initial boom goes down they added 100 or 200 euros discount and start charming its customers again.

    To me Samsung Apple are brands which without promotions cant sell even a single device.
    My country could be known in the world as an advertising country where biillboards and other kind of advertising is behind every corner.
    Xiaomi selling pretty well even without any said promotion but Samsung wouldnt sell even bunt matches sticks without people which do promotions for them in ever edium to large shgopping mall or shopping centre.

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      • 19 Jul 2019

      AnonD-731363, 19 Jul 2019Man i understand you but you still dont get it the right wa... moreThat's all understandable and it's very good of you to help your customers in your phoneshop. Positive talk is always good. But u just need to calm down on samsung and apple Bcuz u keep bringing them up in every article even when article is about other phones. There is no 500% profit for Apple and samsung. Cost of phones is roughly 400. They do make profit just like every other business. That's why they make phones. But u have to understand they don't force people to buy their phones. They know customers have a choice of many different brands and it's upto customer if they wish to buy Samsung or apple. If your customers come to your shop and they really want samsung or apple then u have to respect their wish. It all about affordability. If somebody can afford to buy them then it's their own choice. We can't tell somebody what they should or shouldn't buy. I can afford to buy apple phones it doesn't affect my pocket and Im happy with them as they do what I want from them with no issues at all. In the future I might or might not want to try something different. I started from samsung phones now u use iphones. Don't know what the future holds but right now in present time I'm happy with what I have. As long as we are happy then it's all good. I could save money and buy an alcatel phone but Bcuz I can afford to buy then I don't have any issues with cost of phone. Same with cars. A 20k car to manufacture might only be 5k. Who knows. But people have choices it's up to people what they want

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        • 19 Jul 2019

        kalel, 17 Jul 2019Unfortunately the world we live in isn't going to change. B... moreMan i understand you but you still dont get it the right way.
        All i want is a great device which would satisfy me for a right price.
        HAving a redmi go for 60 euros isnt an option because it maybe does most of my needs but will last maybe a half year.
        Thus phones up to 400 euros were always my options. Something which i can buy on contract but not overpriced and it will satisfy all my needs.
        Gaming on redmi go wouldnt be possible for example.

        And another thing i mentioned here many many times.
        I run a phone shop with 38 stores around the country. We sells like 5060 different phone brands and tons of accesories for a cell phones. Average salary here is 600 euros in Slovakia and half is the pension around 300 euros.
        My company is driven by love and peace. I always give 20% discounts to elderly people, disabled ones, pregnant womans etc.
        Every little helps.
        I am friendly to anyone also to my almost 200 employee and i taught them to be even with every single ustomer no matter his mood state or feelings.
        All i want is an equal world where nobody robs you. Selling phones like apple with 500% price increase compared to manufacturing price is out of option thus finding an apple device in our stores is pretty rare. I understand every company needs money to work but i would never ever rob anyone.
        Just for example a phone we buy from a transporting company for 400 bucks we sells for 419. So my earning or my company income from this device is 19 euros.
        Rest of the phones are like this. On a cheapest phone we earn exactly 0,49 cents.
        So if few coin can make a profit for me others should be same.
        Xiaomi for example no matter where is sold earns like up to 25% on every device.
        But samsung Sony or Apple earns 500%.
        Some people no matter how rich they will be it wont be enough for them.
        I know i am only adreamer but even i can believe a dream can come true.
        Dunno what to say more.
        Please forgive me for all before. I am just a honest bussiness man which rule his life with creed more friends we have or make more humans we are.
        My the holy light guide you all on your ways of life.

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          • 18 Jul 2019

          Anonymous, 18 Jul 2019Ah, so on top of ifan, you were a contract device user too.... moreI know a good product from a bad product it's part of my work. I know people with Sony phones and Motorola phones. They always stick with same brand even if there could be something better. In ur world if Sony or Motorola were biggest company out there then those people would be sheep. I have tried many android devices I know what else people can buy with their own money but I do prefer iphones. And not to show off either. That's typical fandroids talk. Iphones are decent devices. U should check the reviews even this website and they always get good reviews. Yes some things are better than others like battery and other stuff. But u can't get an all in one device best of the best. Even ur favourite device will not be better in certain things to other brands too. Don't know why some people question what others buy when any type of product whether it's clothing or mobiles or food or tv or cars can be questioned too as there's cheaper products in every category and expensive products and worse and better. With your anti apple mindset then everything u buy can be questioned too. But people don't do that Bcuz it's nobody business what each person wants to buy.

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            • j5y
            • 18 Jul 2019

            kalel, 17 Jul 2019Unfortunately the world we live in isn't going to change. B... moreAh, so on top of ifan, you were a contract device user too. Nice to know. It meant you could not afford them outright too. Now you can, so that's a different talk, but still describes mind of people buying fancy stuff for show off.
            Just so you know, pricing depends more on customer company synergy than anything else, if customer pays, company sells. The problem with apple is that they could sell a brick for 99 bucks and people like you would buy it and justify it. Just like 999 pro stand. That sends a bad message to other companies, which is bad for any ecosystem. And people like you are chief perpetrators of that event.
            Besides, if you are not aware, top end Android flagships generally cost similar to iPhones in US, so we have a choice, unlike the iOS guys, who'd snap up cheapest iOS device like sliced bread ( there's a reason iPhone xr is top seller in US, I don't think you can comprehend that)

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              • j5y
              • 18 Jul 2019

              kalel, 13 Jul 2019Iv never heard of it Everything apple pro, Jonathan Morrison, iVerge? Need I list more?

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                • 17 Jul 2019

                AnonD-731363, 16 Jul 2019Another truth is that if people can afford to buy a device ... moreUnfortunately the world we live in isn't going to change. But the gap between rich and poor will keep increasing.
                People only live once and the world going equal and billionaires giving their money away to make everybody equal, isn't going to happen in our lifetime. So people will keep buying what they can afford. Everybody is guilty of wanting more costly things. That includes us both too. I purchase my iphones. Normally I get them on a contract which ends up being same monthly price as samsungs and Huawei. My current device I did purchase outright mainly Bcuz I could afford to. And not be tied up in a long contract.
                You are guilty of what u say Bcuz if u purchase Your xiaomi phones, then why not purchase the cheaper alcatel phones? So what if the camera is lesser quality. It still takes photos. So what if the build quality and component quality is lesser than xiaomi phones? If u truly believe what u just said then you are guilty too for ignoring the cheaper phones which do the same things. Just like cars from 5k to 50k do the same things.
                Instead of spending good portion of time on this website posting comments, you could be out and about helping the less unfortunate people such as the homeless. Every little thing u could do for them makes a difference. But u rather sit comfortably and show your love and hate for phonetic devices on a website which also isn't making the world a better place. Instead you divide people with love and hate on here with your posts.
                Anyway, enjoy your expensive device (compared to alcatel, imo, doro to name a few)
                :)

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                  • 16 Jul 2019

                  kalel, 16 Jul 2019The bottom line is this. If somebody likes cars and wan... moreAnother truth is that if people can afford to buy a device over 1000 then they are aware there will be devices for 200 but they don't care about price Bcuz they can afford to spend more. So it's customers decision. Customers know there are many brands to choose from and they will buy what they want Bcuz it's their money. But then if u will find out they spent alot of money then u would get angry and question them why not a Chinese phone what's wrong with you.
                  And finally why do u care about the price of a phone when ur not interested in the device so why get angry?

                  U always repeat same nonsense for the past year. I guess your not ever feeling happy about anything when ur wasting ur time going crazy about iphones everyday. Sad

                  man very funny but not.
                  I dont care what people buy its their decision not mine.
                  All i want to say if a 5k euros brand new car can take you places why to buy a 50k car if a 45k should be used somewhere else for example making people more even.
                  In present era there are only rich and poor.
                  Those who dont care about money and spend them not visely buying litterary aything because they can afford it and the poor ones which lives from one wages to another or who live just to save like 5-20% of their salary for worse times.

                  All i want and onkly i want is equal world because money are sin and greed is the devil which rules among all people towards all countries and the profit and how to earn even more money becomes the main pillar of everything.
                  Even having money of Cornelius Vanderbilt the most richest person ever existed on earth in today money after counting all tax and inflation (which would means one would have 100 times more money than rest of the world together) they still will feel like a poor and trying to acumulate even more.
                  End of story.
                  Hope you understand me now and i answered all your questions by this simple but major fact which makes me feel like crazy. Because i would if possiblle even split into hundreds just to help others by any possible way.

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                    • 16 Jul 2019

                    AnonD-731363, 16 Jul 2019Obviously u hate apple and u will always use the highest pr... moreThe bottom line is this.

                    If somebody likes cars and wants cheap cars then they would look for the cheap models but some customers won't care about price Bcuz they can afford. So they buy more expensive brands even though the cheaper car will still take them places. Then u will be going angry in car website forums complaining about prices.

                    Another truth is that if people can afford to buy a device over 1000 then they are aware there will be devices for 200 but they don't care about price Bcuz they can afford to spend more. So it's customers decision. Customers know there are many brands to choose from and they will buy what they want Bcuz it's their money. But then if u will find out they spent alot of money then u would get angry and question them why not a Chinese phone what's wrong with you.
                    And finally why do u care about the price of a phone when ur not interested in the device so why get angry?

                    U always repeat same nonsense for the past year. I guess your not ever feeling happy about anything when ur wasting ur time going crazy about iphones everyday. Sad

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                      • SH3
                      • 16 Jul 2019

                      kalel, 15 Jul 2019Iphone xs max 64gb is 1099. There is no lie. Yes there is 2... moreObviously u hate apple and u will always use the highest price point which nobody buys to justify yourself. The only crap (the word u used) are majority of your anti apple posts filled with lies and hardly any facts.

                      Obviously i am right and yu have nothing to do just to scold me to make you feel better.
                      In present era most people says its not enough 64GB and even in 1TB disk space phones they still asking for mocro sd card slot. Just read some phones which have the possibility to have 512 or 1024GB disk space and dont have SD slot.

                      This is the same.

                      By the way in some countries Bangladesh is great example even the redmi go for 60 euros is same expensive in their salary comparison like for european citizen buying apple for 1500.
                      Yes the 64GB variant were cheaper but if i spend 1100 or 1500 for a phone difference is not that big. If someone can afford phone which cost more than 1000 he can also afford phone for 1500.
                      Its same like if i buy Redmi Note 7 for 180 bucks or spend 250 euros on Samsung A50.
                      Difference between cheapest and most expensive is like 30%

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                        • 15 Jul 2019

                        AnonD-731363, 15 Jul 2019Man thats allie and it cost that much. XS max with best ra... moreIphone xs max 64gb is 1099. There is no lie. Yes there is 256gb for 1250 and 512gb for 1500.
                        Majority people purchase 64gb device. That is the most selling device. 256gb some people do buy and 512gb is mainly for the wealthy people not for everybody as 512gb is a bit extreme. Iv had iphone 7 plus in 256gb for 2 and a half years and havnt even filled half of the storage. All these prices are on the UK official apple store. Other countries have higher taxes and prices may vary. And again most people purchase the 64gb size. I'm sure I read once u own a 64gb android device and I'm sure u don't need more storage.

                        Obviously u hate apple and u will always use the highest price point which nobody buys to justify yourself. The only crap (the word u used) are majority of your anti apple posts filled with lies and hardly any facts.

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                          • 15 Jul 2019

                          kalel, 15 Jul 2019They don't spend a whole year to make a device. Most of the... moreMan thats allie and it cost that much. XS max with best ram and most disk space costed even more than 1500.
                          XR initial price was 899 so stop telling me your crap.
                          By the way xiaomi can design new device in few days where aple cant even copypaste in 365 days and still their new phone looks exactly like Mate 20 pro.

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                            • 15 Jul 2019

                            AnonD-731363, 15 Jul 2019Man thats not it. Apple have whole year until they make n... moreThey don't spend a whole year to make a device. Most of the time is spent designing the new device.
                            And it doesn't cost 1500. It costs same as other flagship usually the costlier flagships like samsung.

                            Xiaomi makes updates for all devices and not just a different update for each individual device. Huawei releases same number of flagships as apple. The other day u said if they fix problem quickly then it's Okay. P20 mate 20. 2 flagships a year similar to iphone but still issues. It doesn't matter how many devices companies sell each year. They have enough money and workforce to get things right. Not just apple

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                              • 15 Jul 2019

                              kalel, 11 Jul 2019The throttling issue was sorted out back in ios 11.3 over a... moreMan thats not it.
                              Apple have whole year until they make new device they have whole year for testing and everything dont make in rush such as samsung with Fold.
                              Thus i am expecting device for more than 1500 bucks will works without even the prebulescent issues such as charging problems.
                              Xiaomi releases every month 3-5 phones and havent such problems like china made apple which releases 3-5 devices a year.

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                                • 13 Jul 2019

                                Anonymous, 13 Jul 2019You've never been to iBgr, i suppose. I have used it as exa... moreIv never heard of it

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • j5y
                                  • 13 Jul 2019

                                  kalel, 13 Jul 2019And ur last part about iphone users thinking iphones as a m... moreYou've never been to iBgr, i suppose. I have used it as example of ultimate toxicity

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • j5y
                                    • 13 Jul 2019

                                    kalel, 13 Jul 2019And you can't accuse a company based on a theory tooBut the company was actually banned based on theory, without any concrete evidence for past 5 years.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • j5y
                                      • 13 Jul 2019

                                      kalel, 13 Jul 2019The record number I'm talking about is for a single model o... moreI was talking about annual sales. Samsung sold 300 million/year in heyday, Nokia even more so, huawei might have had breached 230, if it was unchecked.

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                                        • 13 Jul 2019

                                        Anonymous, 13 Jul 2019Just so you know, Ren Zhengfai is a former soldier. You can... moreAnd you can't accuse a company based on a theory too