2020 iPhones to have smaller notches, first all-screen iPhone expected in 2021

11 July 2019
The fullscreen iPhone is coming in two years, next year's versions will shrink the notch.

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Anonymous, 13 Jul 2019Well you are partially correct here. but here is the thing, Many... moreThe record number I'm talking about is for a single model of handset. Samsung and Huawei sell lots of different handsets and those numbers are their total number of handsets sold. The top ten most handsets sold ever are mainly dominated by Nokia with Nokia 1100 as the biggest selling phone ever at 250 million. Iphone 6 is 2nd most with 220 million (not 280 I previously stated) and the other 8 are mainly Nokia handsets with Nokia 3210 at 3rd.
Iphone 6 only smartphone in the list and probably won't be beaten for a long time

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kalel, 13 Jul 2019U mentioned zero facts and when u mentioned the other Chinese co... moreJust so you know, Ren Zhengfai is a former soldier. You can't ban a company based on theory, which is what happened to huawei

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kalel, 13 Jul 2019I made an error mentioning xiaomi because I got mixed up by anot... moreZTE violated a severe trade agreement straight in 2016, anyone with sane mind would ban them after that. They were let off with huge fines and are still operating as of now. Nubia still makes phones, their telecommunication equipment is still in use by AT&T and verizon. Qualcomm still sells their chips to Nubia (1/2 ZTE) and their phones are sold in states (google zte nubia red magic). Never saw something as severe as what happened to huawei happening to ZTE. Why would a London/ Japan based company cut ties with a company sanctioned by US government ?. And you said xiaomi has problem with government, which again is not the case. I am sorry for having wrong assumption, but your implication was towards ban, which was false, so that was the premise for my argument. Sorry about that.

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kalel, 13 Jul 2019And ur last part about iphone users thinking iphones as a messia... moreWell you are partially correct here. but here is the thing, Many ios users demand forced upgrades from others, which is one of the reasons iphones sell. It is their walled garden approach. Say there is a group of 100 people, 70 have iphones (only talking about states here), rest 30 would be forced to use iphones to not be left out thanks to that thing called imessage, which is why i have a iphone 5s (and my android device as main one) myself, just so that i can stay in touch with my colleagues. I will probably buy a 7 since my 5s is on last legs. Most people can not recognize which iphone they have, yet they buy it YoY. An average contract in here is 2 years, so what was 230 in 2015, should be at least 200 if all in US are upgrading after 4 years (they usually do so after 2, but I am assuming that iphone 6 users would want something else by now).
And P.S 230 is not a record, Samsung sells more routinely. Huawei reached 200 last year while apple got 185 odd (by IDC estimates, which we use in academia and most report sites use). That just shows a downward trend, which is a fact. Again I am not against them, all i dont like is
1. Fans and zealots who force others to update for their sake
2. Their approach to keep their stuff proprietary. Why on earth can I not charge my android device and iphone with same cable? why the walled garden, when they were built on top of open source stuff?

Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. So here are a bunch of facts. Almost all Chinese companies ... moreAnd ur last part about iphone users thinking iphones as a messiah, ur completely wrong like alot of others. U have to understand there is android and there is ios. 2 operating systems. Iphone users who love their phones is Bcuz an iphone is the only phone available on ios Bcuz they prefer to remain on ios. So when a newer iphone gets released then they compare it to the previous iphones such as how much better it is than previous models and best iphone yet. That's what u fail to understand. Ios users who love to remain on ios, don't look at other brands and they compare the newest iphone to their older iphone and then think it's great and from that perspective it is. Also whenever I read comments, I never see many ios users mocking android but I always see many android users mocking iphone but I like to laugh it off but others take these things too seriously

Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. So here are a bunch of facts. Almost all Chinese companies ... moreU mentioned zero facts and when u mentioned the other Chinese companies not having issues in USA but only Huawei, then one theory is Huawei staff having connections with Chinese gvmnt. This is just a theory. A theory which doesn't mean it's fact so I don't treat it like it's a fact unlike you mixing theories and facts.

Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. So here are a bunch of facts. Almost all Chinese companies ... moreThere are zero facts in your last post.

There are many factors why 250 in 2015 ( a record from smartphones I don't think will be broken for a while) and 180 now. Some of those reasons are because people hold on to their new phones longer now. Phones tend to have minor upgrades year on year past few years. Now there are many more different brands to choose from and even now the number 180 is highly impressive.

Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. So here are a bunch of facts. Almost all Chinese companies ... moreThere are zero facts in your last post.

There are many factors why 250 in 2015 ( a record from smartphones I don't think will be broken for a while) and 180 now. Some of those reasons are because people hold on to their new phones longer now. Phones tend to have minor upgrades year on year past few years. Now there are many more different brands to choose from and even now the number 180 is highly impressive.

U mentioned zero facts and when u mentioned the other Chinese companies not having issues in USA but only Huawei, then one theory is Huawei staff having connections with Chinese government. This is just a theory. A theory which doesn't mean it's fact so I don't treat it like it's a fact unlike you mixing theories and facts.
And ur last part about iphone users thinking iphones as a messiah, ur completely wrong like alot of others. U have to understand there is android and there is ios. 2 operating systems. Iphone users who love their phones is Bcuz an iphone is the only phone available on ios Bcuz they prefer to remain on ios. So when a newer iphone gets released then they compare it to the previous iphones such as how much better it is than previous models and best iphone yet. That's what u fail to understand. Ios users who love to remain on ios, don't look at other brands and they compare the newest iphone to their older iphone and then think it's great and from that perspective it is. Also whenever I read comments, I never see many ios users mocking android but I always see many android users mocking iphone but I like to laugh it off but others take these things too seriously

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Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. So here are a bunch of facts. Almost all Chinese companies ... moreEdit, I meant 230. A minor typo Pardon me for that

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kalel, 12 Jul 2019Here's a story for you. You can teach ur students That if you wa... more1. So here are a bunch of facts.
Almost all Chinese companies like motorola, xiaomi, lenovo, operate without any restrictions in US. The only company that overtook apple doesn't.
2. Matters were completely under the ground for 6 whole years. If there was a problem in that time then who was responsible?
3. Apple is kinda used frequently as example of perfect marketing, I can't deny that and I respect them for that. Steve jobs himself said that good artists copy, great artist steal. If you can market stolen goods in protected market, that is good (same happens in china). Try it in open market, that is where your true value is shown. Jobs crafted that perfect image of apple with utmost care, only for the weak base to drag it down. Apple sold 250 million phones in 2015-16, why is it 180 now? It is their ability to put a veil over a commoners eye that i respect.
4. Look i am not against apple in any way, their phones are great. Just not for me or my friends, but the fans acting like they are messiahs of phones and best thing since sliced bread is something that irks me more than anything. I so much want my friend sell them iphone 6 instead of iphone 7, but legal litigation is far to severe anyways.

Anonymous, 13 Jul 20191. Our main topic was not the ban anyways, i bought it up to sho... moreI made an error mentioning xiaomi because I got mixed up by another Chinese company. You also made a big error too. U said "where did u get ur baseless argument that they are banned"?

I never even said they were banned anywhere in my post. I actually said they had troubles with USA government. Having troubles with whoever doesn't mean the same as being banned. My error was mistakenly saying xiaomi but it was actually ZTE. Another Chinese company getting blacklisted by USA government. And they weren't blacklisted Bcuz apple were scared either and same with the Huawei saga too. Nothing got to do with apple. China know what's happening. They know so much more than you would ever know and if they knew apple played a part getting Huawei banned then they would ban apple in China too don't u think? Again, if there's no proof then u shouldn't turn a conspiracy into fact Bcuz they are completely opposite meanings.

U also used the word baseless. Your conspiracy theories without any proof at all is the better use of the word baseless

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kalel, 12 Jul 2019And when xiaomi had problems with USA government then that was B... more1. Our main topic was not the ban anyways, i bought it up to show protectionism of goverment
2. Xiaomi sells its stuff(mostly accessories) on walmart, amazon, best buy and other major retailers. Their mi box is sold directly by google. Where on earth are they banned then? They are coming with their phones in US in 2019 3rd quarter or by 2020. They had to slow down due to departure of hugo barra. Where did you get your baseless argument that they are banned?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Xiaomi-Mi-Box-S-4K-HD­R-Android-TV-with-Google-Assistant-Remote-Stream­ing-Media-Player-now-with-FREE-10-VUDU-CREDIT/67­7842593
Need more things they sell here? I have a mi box, so mi being banned would probably be the dumbest thing a person could say

Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019-> Again, just like u said from millions of users theres a fe... moreAnd when xiaomi had problems with USA government then that was Bcuz of apple worried about xiaomi too???
Hilarious!
Your conspiracies are baseless no facts at all
U keep believing what u want to believe about Huawei ban

Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019I am pretty sure thieves won't have my fingerprints either.... s... moreHere's a story for you. You can teach ur students That if you want to prove something then look for facts and not conspiracy theories. And if apple offers them a job one day then they shouldn't be concerned how their teacher feels about it and to go for it to have a better future

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kalel, 12 Jul 2019Again, just like u said from millions of users theres a few peop... more-> Again, just like u said from millions of users theres a few people with problems with it
So same can't hold true for android devices with UD fps? nice one dude, you literally said the same thing i said a few comments back... so give me one reason why you say "apple perfects it"?. My friend circle prefers UD fps or fps at rear of the phone, since it has one less step to unlock (you need to swipe up after your phone is unlocked with face ID? are we barbarians or something)

-> coincidences happen, but when a event from 2012 is dug up from grave, just when a company is rising at exponential rate, something weird must have caused it to happen. Smells fishy to me. And just so you know, apple operates in china and is made in china, While huawei is banned in US. Talk about protectionism...

Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/27/apple-iphone-producti... moreAgain, just like u said from millions of users theres a few people with problems with it. Nothing major as my family members and friends have never had issues and they love it saying they prefer it over touch I'd and I take their word as they are honest people. Again your article about apple and Huawei gives zero evidence of trump doing it for Apple. Yes there will be coincidences but u can find coincidences in anything. Just Bcuz apple increasing production it only means they taking advantage over Huawei situation and there still zero proof from u that trump did it to help apple.

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kalel, 12 Jul 2019Did I say I'm concerned about someone hacking my phone? No I did... moreI am pretty sure thieves won't have my fingerprints either.... so my data would remain safe. I can wipe in in few minutes thanks to google services. Even before they get all the equipment to search and replicate my fingerprint. Tell me more stories please, I will use them to teach my students some principles of marketing

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Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8604155. https://discussio... morehttps://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/27/apple­-iphone-production-increases-in-response-to-huaw­ei-ban
Kinda added a dot there. please refer this link here

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kalel, 12 Jul 2019Did I say I'm concerned about someone hacking my phone? No I did... morehttps://discussions.apple.com/thread/8604155.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8294735
Got your link? There won't be a support page if problem does not exist. Anecdotal evidence can be found from anywhere, so kindly try using that thing called google for once for apple too. They literally have their own support page for this. My room mate runs a phone shop here, and he himself has said that people do have issues with face ID. Just in case you need a statement of a genius bar guy, I am pretty sure you can come to apple store in downtown manhattan and get it for yourself. Also, just a simple link
https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/27/apple­-iphone-production-increases-in-response-to-huaw­ei-ban.
Weird isn't it? coincidence, I don't think so. Who stands to benefit most? Apple. Also now that i think of it, since ban has been lifted, the work has been done, huawei got its rep tarnished, isn't it happening at all to convenient time? especially after huawei overtook apple for number 2 position?
https://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-ban-full-timeli­ne-on-how-and-why-its-phones-are-under-fire/.
Weird isn't it? no one cared for it in 2012. But suddenly in 2019, it became a world breaking issue

Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019why on earth would someone want to hack your phone? are you a VI... moreDid I say I'm concerned about someone hacking my phone? No I didn't. U mentioned under display finger print scanners. What's the point having any security if you're not a vip or a politician either?
And for your information u don't have to be famous to have your phone hacked. If it gets stolen for example then u don't want others going through ur information do you? So don't know why u brought up having to be famous.

And the link u provided is pointless. It doesn't say anywhere if there are problems with face id. Its just about general things which can happen to any phone. Such as getting jam from a kids fingers on ur device for example. That article was pointless to use against face id. And the second link u provided was hilarious. Obviously if u wear sunglasses which cover ur face and eyes then it would have issues. What's the fix? Simple. Remove your sunglasses. Unless someone had both their arms amputated then I would say yes it's a problem.
And I stopped taking u seriously with your last paragraph. I find it hilarious that u think that having a trade war between USA and China is all about helping apple. That's is pure laughable unless u got any proof. Any proof?? No. Didn't think so
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