2020 iPhones to have smaller notches, first all-screen iPhone expected in 2021

11 July 2019
The fullscreen iPhone is coming in two years, next year's versions will shrink the notch.

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  • 12 Jul 2019

kalel, 12 Jul 2019Oh being salty now? U want to list issues too? You asked me... morewhy on earth would someone want to hack your phone? are you a VIP, a billionaire, a politician? I am not getting salty, I am just laughing at stuff you fans give apple a free pass for. Pretty sure if apple brings back touch ID, it would be hackable the same way old one was. And face ID when launched was a first gen too(first generation of upgrading and merging copy that is), that did not stop apple from launching it
https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/fix-face-id-not-working-3690315/
https://www.macworld.com/article/3387623/how-to-use-face-id-with-sunglasses.html
Some links for you too.
Every device has flaws, no technology or piece of code is perfect, bugs exist. So the argument of "Apple will perfect it" are simply dumb. As long as it works for general populace, none of it matters. The UD FPS work. That is why there are sub 200$ phones these days in china with that feature, so the argument that apple bought face ID as stopgap between UD fps and fps holds no water, apple is 2 years behind in technology and desperate people are trying to defend it no matter what. I find it hilarious, not something to get salty about. There is a reason their sales are declining YoY, and president had to intervene by banning competitors to stop that from happening

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    • Anonymous
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    • 12 Jul 2019

    AnonD-706668, 12 Jul 2019Constant restriction is not freedom....so, iOS=/=FreedomNowhere have I ever claimed it was. No phone on the market is free of both surveillance and control.

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      • 12 Jul 2019

      Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019Need i list issues with face ID? or the touch Id which coul... moreOh being salty now? U want to list issues too? You asked me to list issues and now ur hurt and want to make a list too? Yes they were first iterations that's why there would be a few bumps here and there. But apple always waits for the tech to get better at the 2nd or 3rd iteration before they use it. Which is the best way to go.
      Yes twins can have issue with face id. Luckily twins are family members so not really risky security concerns. Outside family nobody could hack face id unless they do expensive plastic surgery to hack a phone which isn't going to happen. Androids brands who use face unlock is more insecure Bcuz it just uses a camera sensor and can be tricked whereas apple have alot of high tech inside the notch to do face id.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 12 Jul 2019

        Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019Need i list issues with face ID? or the touch Id which coul... moreAnd as you said, for samsung, it was a software issue, which was fixed. As a bonus, it was not even the usually used optical FPS, it was ultrasonic, Samsung at least had courage to add it. The only courage apple had was spent to remove 3.5 mm jack rather than trying to do something new

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          • Anonymous
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          • 12 Jul 2019

          kalel, 12 Jul 2019Nobody triggered here but you. Op7 pro Fingerprint i... moreNeed i list issues with face ID? or the touch Id which could be hacked?
          1. Isolated incidents != mass defect, you want to see mass defects, see iphone 6 and iphone 4 and note 7's.
          2. in display FPS is a recent technology, subsequent iterations will only get better. None of reviewers have had any issues so far in any of devices you have mentioned. Almost all of them sold millions, so, why are there no more than 100 comments in any of the links you mentioned?. As long as it works day to day, people do not care, that is same reason face ID works, despite apple still being unable to differentiate twins
          3. Apple won't be perfecting it for sure, it will wait for someone else to do it, copy it and celebrate it like best thing since sliced bread

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            • Anonymous
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            • 12 Jul 2019

            kalel, 12 Jul 2019If people have to transfer files to other phones then surel... moreDude he is talking about sharing data without Internet connection with other phone. Ability to offload files on to a SD card or pen drive or a full fledged hard disk with relative ease and convnience

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              • Anonymous
              • g3t
              • 12 Jul 2019

              kalel, 11 Jul 2019Just hate comments here. For a hater an iphone is useless. ... moreAnd the grapes are sour

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                • Anonymous
                • g3t
                • 12 Jul 2019

                CompactPhones5ever, 11 Jul 2019Say what you want about Apple, at least they're 2 years AHE... moreIPhone is the most bulky.
                Other phones are compact and provide more screen real estate.

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                  • 12 Jul 2019

                  Bob, 12 Jul 2019Dont know where you got this info from but it's factually i... moreRead my follow up post correcting the first post by saying I was just guessing don't know why there aren't much dual sim phones in the UK. Which is true actually. Ee the biggest network in the UK only sells one device with dual sim and that's the iPhone xs max. Carphone warehouse do sell various Chinese brands as dual sim. Even samsung phones are only dual sim in a few markets

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                    • 12 Jul 2019

                    kalel, 11 Jul 2019Every phone in the UK is single sim. The sim tray will have... moreDont know where you got this info from but it's factually incorrect..

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                      • 12 Jul 2019

                      Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019You said one example, I provided 10, find issue in all 10. ... moreNobody triggered here but you.

                      Op7 pro

                      Fingerprint issue. Doesn't work first touch will work on second touch
                      https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/op7-pro-fingerprint-scanner.1038862/

                      Op6 t

                      Have to keep registering finger and finger doesn't get recognised. Also have to add more pressure onto the screen for it to read fingerprint.
                      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/tip-problems-fingerprint-scanner-t3874708/amp/

                      Galaxy s10
                      Finger print sensor wasn't working and was sluggish when out of the box. Ssung did fix it with an update but at same time the finger print scanner can be hacked.
                      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5google.com/2019/04/12/galaxy-s10-fingerprint-issues/amp/

                      Mate 20 pro/ P20 pro
                      Have to press finger 3-4 times to recognise finger. Users tend to use face unlock instead as it's faster on these models
                      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/fingerprint-sensor-stops-t3880492/amp/

                      K20 pro
                      Not yet known as device still not released in certain markets and not much testing done on phone. Even gsmarena havnt reviewed it yet.


                      There you go and I stand by what I said. I rather wait for Apple to add new tech 1 or 2 years after others just so it's more improved with no issues. Why rush something just to be first and get extra sales. Rather improve the tech and release it when it's fully ready. Also most of above handsets have issues reading fingerprint when phone covered with screen protector too.
                      :):):):):)

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                        • j5y
                        • 12 Jul 2019

                        kalel, 11 Jul 2019One example for the mi9 series in display finger print scan... moreYou said one example, I provided 10, find issue in all 10. I meant mi9t btw, not mi9 ( to be fair I have mi9, it's fps works fine after latest beta, but it's not for stable, it'll be there in a week)

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                          • Anonymous
                          • j5y
                          • 12 Jul 2019

                          kalel, 11 Jul 2019What's higher standards?? Being able to download illegal to... morebeing able to use 2 or more aps at once with split screen, native integration with Google suite, a proper file manager to name a few....

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                            • Anonymous
                            • j5y
                            • 12 Jul 2019

                            Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019As below, I challenge you to provide a single documented ca... moreFinger print scanner, OLED, screen botches, wireless charging. Need I say more?

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                              • j5y
                              • 12 Jul 2019

                              DiggerNicks, 12 Jul 2019As has been said a million times: Apple by far has the m... moreYou would still be using Google search, still watch videos on YouTube and probably use Google based mail client. Google is selling you ads one way or another. You are just paying more for getting same ads as us. So nice of you people.
                              And you are delusional if you think apple does not work with government. If you want privacy, buy a dumb phone, you and your grand delusions of apples security are even older than Apple's hardware, that's why they're declining yoy and milking users with their services

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                                • 12 Jul 2019

                                apple still lives in 2017

                                  Strazzi, 12 Jul 2019Noup. No compact Apple phone. If you mean SE it doesnt sell... moreMate, you mention LG Q7 which is the same size as iPhone XS.

                                  I mean I kinda agree with you, in my book the normal size for a phone is 140mm height, from trully "compact" phone I'd expect no more than 125mm, but it's a relative term - when you take into account how big recent phones are, then most of iPhone are comparably compact.

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                                    • 12 Jul 2019

                                    Sounds like the 2019 batch of iPhones will still have that huge notch, which looks totally outdated and ridiculous - they couldn't even go for that drop-shaped camera notch? 2020 for a smaller notch, 2021 for a notchless design - Apple is dropping the ball bit time.

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                                      • 12 Jul 2019

                                      Carol, 12 Jul 2019Their is no misteryan and their is no such thing like UK, d... moreWho is misteryan? And I did also state I'm just guessing I don't really know why Bcuz dual sims are rare in the UK so get ur head out of your #*%^

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                                        • 12 Jul 2019

                                        Anonymous, 12 Jul 2019Constant surveillance is not freedom, thus Android =/= free... moreConstant restriction is not freedom....so, iOS=/=Freedom