Samsung introduces 7nm Exynos 9825 right ahead of Galaxy Note10 launch
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- 07 Aug 2019
Alex, 07 Aug 2019A shrinked and more optimized version of the Exynos 9820 I... moreIn that case it's worthy upgrade
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- 07 Aug 2019
Looks like they are packed with even more options. That's the reason they are the no.1 in smartphones industry
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- 07 Aug 2019
Note 4 was the last Note to have a more refined SoC than its S brother. Still, that doesn't change the fact that the Mongoose M4 cores are horribly inefficient and A75 cores are seriously outdated for a 2019 flagship but hey, better than nothing.
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- 07 Aug 2019
amp, 07 Aug 2019Yes, it almost impossible for mali to catchup with Adreno, ... moreHow ironic that AMD err ATI developed Adreno and Qualcomm bought it from them. It's like AMD will fight against their own shadow.
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Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019After a year lagging, Samsung finally up their game to catc... moreI don't know.
I would say that the Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 9830 will gain on the Apple A13 in overall performance.
TSMC's 7nm+ will bring around 10-15% improvement in efficiency and a small reduction in size. The only way the A13 could improve significantly is if Apple increases it's transistor budget and makes the die even bigger than the A12(things like adding more cores) but I don't see the point in them doing that. It's not like they need more performance when they don't really take advantage of the performance they already have.
By adding at least 1Gb Ram more and doubling the storage at 128GB their users would see more benefits from the A13.
The Cortex A77 will deliver a solid 20-25% and get past 4000 points in Geekbench single core because it's continuing it's progression from a lower base in comparison to Apple's big CPU cores, so from less dies size and less overall cache.
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AverageUser, 07 Aug 2019So basically just a Exynos 9820 in 7nm version.
Advantag... moreA shrinked and more optimized version of the Exynos 9820
It should both perform better and offer better efficiency.
Let's not forget that the 8nm used by the Exynos 9820 was just an improved 10nm process and still legged behind TSMC's 7nm in many key areas.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Markuss, 07 Aug 2019is this a joke? the only difference is from 8nm to 7nm.What do you mean, a joke? Usually the Note gets the same SoC as the S line. It's not worth the cost to design a whole new SoC just for half a year. The 9825 is a new process, plus higher clock speeds. This article is a little bit wrong.
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AverageUser, 07 Aug 2019So basically just a Exynos 9820 in 7nm version. Advantag... moreNot just a process shrink, but also slightly higher clock speeds on the two A75 cores and higher frequency on the GPU cores.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Mo84, 07 Aug 2019What's the differences between the the are the same except ... moreEuv requires less masks, so it will be faster and cheaper to produce than non euv version, when the size is same. Also euv allow smaller nodes in longer run.
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- 07 Aug 2019
So basically just a Exynos 9820 in 7nm version.
Advantage: It'll consume bit less battery.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Only Apple's processor can beat Snapdragon. In android world Snapdragon it the best ot best.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Markuss, 07 Aug 2019is this a joke? the only difference is from 8nm to 7nm.Yep, Samsung playing catch-up with this one.
Hopefully it’s less of a mess than the 9820.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Well the prayers were spoken and bread is eaten and on end of the day we get a same chipset with only a benchmark numbers in difference.
And not only that It still will be worse than Snapdragon maybe on par with Kirin and just a inch better from latest top mediatek.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Wait what 22mpix camera what is happening
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- 07 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019Its just impossible it takes 2 years for mali to catch up w... moreYes, it almost impossible for mali to catchup with Adreno, thats why Samsung got a license of AMD gpu. They will launch SOCs with amd gpu tech in 2021.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Uhmm, people are getting confused here.
8nm is still a 10nm node, which is basically an advanced-14nm node. This is a proper die shrink to the next node, which is 7nm. It's like going from the QSD 835/845 to the QSD 855/Kirin 980.
It is possible that we see something like a +40% performance increase.
How?
It's because the Exynos 9825 may actually be able to hit the maximum frequencies and maintain them without throttling for a long time, and do so on a smaller voltage. Remember the Exynos 9820 looks great on-paper, and runs great on few benchmarks, but when it comes to actual work and real-world scenarios it lags quite heavy. It has a scheduler issue, it uses most voltage, and can't maintain high clockspeed.
It is possible, the Exynos 9825 is slightly better than the Snapdragon 855 Plus. It is also possible it is slightly worse than the Kirin 980. But we know those 3 chipsets are now closer in performance/efficiency than what they were before. We would have to wait another month and test them properly to see where they each fall.
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- 07 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019To record 8K you need at least 33.2 Mpx sensor.Just because the chip supports it, doesn't mean the Note 9 will have it.
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Anonymous, 07 Aug 2019Rumor said that it is faster than SD855+ when it comes to g... moreIts just impossible it takes 2 years for mali to catch up with adreno
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- 07 Aug 2019
It's just released (note 10)and already outdated. Yet people say this about Sony's 6 month release cycle lol