Four Xiaomi phones will use Samsung's 108 MP camera in the near future
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- 22 Sep 2019
joni, 10 Sep 2019Actually mobile company wants to use of dump people brain, ... moreDigital Zoom
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- 10 Sep 2019
Actually mobile company wants to use of dump people brain, a standard portrait picture need 8 mp & a group photo need 12 mp maximum to photo, what you will do with 108 MP cam? where professional camera will not go far? stop stupid competition for MP, improve the sensor quality.
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- 05 Sep 2019
O S, 04 Sep 2019Actually, with current silicon lithography and pixel cell w... moreBut still, the Megapixel has some bearing of importance.
I say this as almost everything is moving digital, so going with 33.2 Megapixels (8K resolution) seems to be the smart move. That way cropping things down by factors to 4K, 2K, and smaller resolutions becomes simpler for digital artists and programs.
So if you took the same sensor size (1/1.2in) with a density of 0.35pi2, you could have a 33.2 Megapixel camera with almost a 1.8um sharpness, after applying the crop factor. That would be more ideal.
PS: While on paper, the Nokia 808 looks most impressive, the Lumia 1020 is overall a better camera. And the Huawei P30 Pro looks even worse, its actually even better. There are somethings that help improve photo accuracy, such as additional details from other sensors, the lens speed, software/algorithm, memory and processing. These intangibles get lost whenever someone reads from a spec-sheet, and they always get exaggerated when spoken from a device owner.
Rant:
The only way to objectively compare camera quality is to do it in a dark room, with a controlled light direction, colour, intensity, etc. Against objects which have various angles, textures, and colours that don't fade. And compare said photos between phones and a control (an overkill DSLR). Then you can pixel peep, and see clearly where the smartphone camera has its issues and strengths. And lastly, use some sort of computer program which will score the accuracy of the shots to the DSLR, and produce a score. Then compare the DSLR shot to the previous shot by the DSLR to confirm that nothing has changed (at least not beyond error margin). And finally score each shot using that computer; example, if the _InsertExpensiveDSLR_ scores 99% and a Huawei P30 Pro scores 60%, iPhone XS score 56% and OnePlus 7 scores 55% then tell it like it is. But don't do any sponsorship, and don't release the full-details of the test so that OEMs can't trick it, the way companies trick benchmarks or car emissions tests.
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- 04 Sep 2019
Nick Tagataka, 04 Sep 2019I mean, if you ignore WB, color consistency across the fram... moreI'm kinda 50:50 there because if you only take photos and videos in Auto mode, I can agree there. But if you always like to do manual setting, then it can be a totally different story altogether. This somehow reminds me of the Nokia 9 PureView.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Sep 2019
If Samsung sensor really good. Why Samsung uses Sony sensor for its flagship phone?
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- 04 Sep 2019
So redmi note 9 pro will have a 108 Mpix no doubt and maybe a K20 pro successor Mi Mix or Mi Max and Xiaomi Mi 10 or 10T probbably.
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- 04 Sep 2019
Nick Tagataka, 04 Sep 2019I don't think you can fit 164 million pixels into 1/1.2" se... moreActually, with current silicon lithography and pixel cell wall technology used by both Samsung and Sony, you need about 0.34 inches squared silicon for 164MP 0.8um, 104MP 1.0um, 41MP 1.6um, or 26MP 2.0um sensor. A 1/1.2 inch sensor size works out to 0.3472 inches squared which is just enough.
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- 04 Sep 2019
YUKI93, 03 Sep 2019"...today's processors & computational image processing... moreI mean, if you ignore WB, color consistency across the frame and dynamic range then old Nokia phones might be still the king. As soon as you start taking into those factors as well as focusing accuracy, low light performance, video recording capability etc, however, recent top-end phones like iPhone XS still reign supreme.
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- 04 Sep 2019
O S, 03 Sep 2019That would be great, but 164MP at 0.8um pixel or 41MP at 1.... moreI don't think you can fit 164 million pixels into 1/1.2" sensor when they have 0.8µm pixel pitch. Nokia 808's sensor had 40 million 1.4µm pixels, and 1µm pixel is almost half the area, so at this pitch you can fit just right in 80 million pixels into the sensor.
- yogivansh
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- 04 Sep 2019
YUKI93, 03 Sep 2019"...today's processors & computational image processing... moreAI image processing is the future of photography specially in low light, look how good Google pixels are doing with just a single camera. They matched the quality flagships with better processors & technological advancements we will see better cameras in near future.
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- 04 Sep 2019
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2019C'mon, the 808 was a failure, very few were sold, and that ... moreImagine changing the subject to try to make your point look valid. The point wasn't about 808 being successful or a failure. It was about how it still has a sensor that is better than the Samsung 108MP one. The 808 being a failure as you claim it and still having the biggest sensor is just sad for the other companies.
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- 03 Sep 2019
S10 Laggy your killing me with laughter. Ive done many tests and cant get my S10 to lag. I ran 8 browsers at once and left real racing 3 running while watching a YouTube video yep still no lag. You need to get yours repaired as its clearly faulty.
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- 03 Sep 2019
Kunal Raj, 03 Sep 2019The best thing about samsung sensors on Xiaomi devices is t... moreBut then again, pretty much all Xiaomi phone uses Snapdragon CPU. So Gcam compatibility shouldn't be a problem there.
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- 03 Sep 2019
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2019C'mon, the 808 was a failure, very few were sold, and that ... moreCompany no longer exists? Do you smoke weed? xD
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- 03 Sep 2019
yogivansh, 03 Sep 2019because there is no purview team that was behind this tech,... more"...today's processors & computational image processing..."
Processor is alright, I definitely welcome new CPU, but computational image processing definitely worries me. To be brutally honest, I still haven't found any phone that can equally match the image processing of the Nokia-Microsoft Lumia to this day. The PureView Lumias are just in a totally different league despite the age.
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- 03 Sep 2019
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2019Fanboy? Are you kidding me? I've used both and Xiaomi is mu... moreI have midranger A50, It doesn't lag, even gsmarena said that, so does notebookcheck, try one then write this ok?
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- 03 Sep 2019
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2019Laggy Samsung... So your last Samsung was an s7? A10?Even S10 Plus lags. Just open and close app drawer few times. Blind fanboy open your eyes wider.
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- 03 Sep 2019
Anonymous, 03 Sep 2019Fanboy? Are you kidding me? I've used both and Xiaomi is mu... moreLaggy Samsung... So your last Samsung was an s7? A10?
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- 03 Sep 2019
Khuan, 03 Sep 2019This is because less and less people going to buy SAMSUNG G... moreYour hate blinded you and what you said we all know is not true.
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- 03 Sep 2019
Out of Control, 03 Sep 2019The flaw in your statement is that Samsung was one of only ... moreAbsolutely True!!!