Samsung Galaxy S11 to have a taller 20:9 screen

15 October 2019
It's not clear what Samsung will do with the taller screen.

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  • Anonymous

Asianphillippe007, 31 Oct 2019No motorized or pop-up camera please because it's ugly. Samsung,... moremaybe it will be similar to a80 with flip camera

  • David Just9n

AlexP, 21 Oct 2019Looks like Samsung is going to copy oneplus 7T 20:9 display rat... moreBut Already one Plus 7 copied our Curved Display and Vivo's Pop up camera !!😊

  • Rainbow Jeremy

Asianphillippe007, 31 Oct 2019No motorized or pop-up camera please because it's ugly. Samsung,... moreYes, because notches and holes in displays are not ugly.

No motorized or pop-up camera please because it's ugly. Samsung, please don't do it!!!

Looks like Samsung is going to copy oneplus 7T 20:9 display ratio. Nice

AlienKiss, 17 Oct 2019If a web page or an app isn't responsive (detection of the user'... moreSo we're supposed to take advice from you, someone who doesn't know the difference between resolution and aspect ratio?

I think its a great vision that you have, where all content magically conform to any aspect ratio. But if we continue to live on Earth, where things aren't perfect, then I would prefer to use my device with the least amount of compromises. Besides, people that criticise developers for a bad job are people who cannot do any development themselves.

  • AlienKiss

Kangal, 17 Oct 2019What an ignorant thing to say??!? Firstly, webpages are desig... moreIf a web page or an app isn't responsive (detection of the user's display and resizing everything according to that display), that developer doesn't deserve to be payed and doesn't deserve to be called a professional developer. PERIOD.
As for the strange resolution, newsflash : netflux streams are in that resolution. Just because you don't use it or can't afford it, it doesn't mean the majority of the people don't use it.
Also, this new res is IDEAL for multitasking. But something tells me that you don't use it.

Welcome to the future grandpa! Now go drink your prune juice..

Anonymous, 16 Oct 2019Do you only watch videos on your phone? I use my phone more ofte... moreWhat an ignorant thing to say??!?

Firstly, webpages are designed depending on the owner/developer of the site, so there are some websites that conform to a wide format (eg 4:3 or 16:9) and there are other websites that conform to a tall format (eg 9:16). Overall, they are least offended by switching from a 16:9 to a 21:9 (and anything in between), as the larger impact happens to be a switching from landscape orientation to a portrait orientation.

Secondly, most Apps are built with 16:9 targets. Most can stretch based on Android's built-in pixel density scalar, others are stuck with that ratio. Few have been ported over to the weird aspect ratios. And some live as 16:9 Apps with blank spaces/letterboxing on those weird ratios. So there is some leniency here.

But most importantly, where you can have some sort of leniency in webpages and Apps, you don't get that with video. Stretching a 16:9 video into a 20:9 format makes the content wider (eg people look fatter, spheres look like rugby balls, etc etc). And the opposite is true as well, if you have a 21:9 movie and you condense the footage into a 18:9 format things look bad (eg people look skinny, spheres look like rugby balls etc etc).

With that said, mobile phones are now the de-facto Personal Computers of people. And so it must serve the purposes of web browsing, video watching, and application running. So we have to consider all of these when thinking of an aspect ratio.

So what's the solution?
A) Change the industry so that all TV Shows and Movies are now recorded and edited on a 19:9 aspect ratio. Then make all phones with 19:9 screens. Sounds impossible because it probably is.
B) Or resort to using a Weird Aspect Ratio like 19:9. Continue to enjoy a mediocre experience with Websites, a poor experience with Apps, and horrible experience with videos. This is possible/easy but the overall experience is weird.
C) Or make devices with a Standardised Aspect Ratio (eg 16:9 Rectangle, 17:9 dual-notch, 21:9 Ultrawide). Now enjoy a mediocre experience with Websites, a great experience with Apps, and a good experience with videos. This is actually easier than above since displays are cut/mass produced more cheaply and often with standardised shapes, and the overall experience to users is notably better.

Remember, nothing is perfect with a mobile device. So in this battle of compromises, I think my points are very important because it is the least wasteful for users. If I had control over theoreticals, I would opt for an Aspect Ratio of Root2 (1:1.414) like the International A4 Paper. That way things can scale linearly with the power of binary, so it could be possible to do pixel-perfect development and chipset hardware can match resolution more intricately... and it makes for a much better tablet/monitor viewing and handling.

  • Note9 User

I'm glad I got my Note9 with zero interruptions in it's gorgeous display panel, it's 18.5:9 (2.06:1) aspect ratio, but I would've liked 18:9 (2:1) a.r. even more, especially because I watch loads more 16:9 content mostly documentaries, for films I use 55" 16:9 TV.
But 18.5:9 makes sense for suiting the average of 16:9 & 21:9 ratios: 16:9 +21:9= 37:18 /2= 18.5:9.

But now manufacturers are going towards 21:9, so they make devices tall & skinny & you'll have empty black bars either side for the mostly 16:9 content.

I'm glad I missed these notches & hole punches, but hope they sort out uninterrupted displays soon.
Yeah, I like to see 100% of my screen.
I doubt even taller & skinny (narrow) will fit as comfortably into your pocket when you sit down.

  • Anonymous

So Samsung is going to enter the remote control territory?

Kangal, 16 Oct 201917:9 is only perfect if you, keep an uninterrupted 16:9 screen, ... morePretty impressive math.

Anonymous, 16 Oct 2019Because 21:9 comes from cinemas. 16:9 comes from TV which is far... moreI have 2 21:9 monitors, games support 21:9 aspect ratios, Phones are getting closer to 21:9. Just use 21:9 already! Why use these weird 18.5:9 or 19:9 aspect ratios that very few videos support?

  • Anonymous

Kangal, 16 Oct 201917:9 is only perfect if you, keep an uninterrupted 16:9 screen, ... moreDo you only watch videos on your phone? I use my phone more often for messaging and reddit and web browsing on sites such as this, for which a taller aspect ratio is better suited and which doesn't seem to be a major factor in your calculations.

Anonymous, 16 Oct 2019It is stupid that sony put large bezel on already tall screen ma... moreI see you're one of them then. People dislike something unusual/not normal. We had that kind of situation, when we were on transition 16:9 to 18:9, but eventually people accepted it when it became common. Don't worry you'll adapt when the time come XD

  • Anonymous

GAMIRSFM, 16 Oct 2019Why not use 21:9, that is a more common aspect ratio.Because 21:9 comes from cinemas. 16:9 comes from TV which is far more prevalent. Hence why the likes of YouTube is mostly 16:9 and hence black screen space on phones above 16:9.

  • AnonD-819322

BigDisplay, 16 Oct 2019Miss the good old 16:9...15:9 or 5:3 was decent, 16:9 videos were fine, only slight black bars on the side. Using a 15:9 phone, the Lumia 925.

Josephnero, 16 Oct 2019Sony says hello. Where are the guys that bashed Sony LOL I know right? Where they at though!

Anonymous, 16 Oct 2019Taller screens are utterly insane. It creates problems both in w... moreI agree.
See my previous comment where I use mathematics to prove which aspect ratio is more efficient from a Screen-to-Body viewpoint. However, the size of the device is also important. I think you would enjoy this next comparison:

Here's how "Large Phones" would compare:
16:9 - 5.94in - 74mm x 132mm = 9,727mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 142mm)
17:9 - 6.23in - 74mm x 140mm = 10,355mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 150mm)
18:9 - 6.51in - 74mm x 148mm = 10,937mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 158mm)
19:9 - 6.81in - 74mm x 156mm = 11,575mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 166mm)
20:9 - 7.10in - 74mm x 164mm = 12,171mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 174mm)
21:9 - 7.40in - 74mm x 173mm = 12,792mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 183mm)

Here are "Medium Phones" as such:
16:9 - 5.22in - 65mm x 116mm = 7,512mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 126mm)
17:9 - 5.47in - 65mm x 123mm = 7,982mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 133mm)
18:9 - 5.72in - 65mm x 130mm = 8,443mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 140mm)
19:9 - 5.98in - 65mm x 137mm = 8,926mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 147mm)
20:9 - 6.24in - 65mm x 145mm = 9,401mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 155mm)
21:9 - 6.50in - 65mm x 152mm = 9,869mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 162mm)

Lastly "Small Phones" could compare:
16:9 - 4.42in - 55mm x 98mm = 5,386mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 108mm)
17:9 - 4.63in - 55mm x 104mm = 5,719mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 114mm)
18:9 - 4.84in - 55mm x 110mm = 6,045mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 120mm)
19:9 - 5.06in - 55mm x 116mm = 6,391mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 126mm)
20:9 - 5.28in - 55mm x 122mm = 6,731mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 132mm)
21:9 - 5.50in - 55mm x 128mm = 7,066cm² (Phone size: 59mm x 138mm)

Walter C. Dornez, 16 Oct 201917:9 seems perfect17:9 is only perfect if you, keep an uninterrupted 16:9 screen, and use that little extra length:
- to round the corners
- space on top for notification bar
- space on bottom for navigation bar
- Add notch to both top and bottom, which houses Front-firing stereo loudspeakers and plus Selfie Cam and all other sensors (think ZTE Iceberg concept)

Otherwise, a rectangle 16:9 display with Slim Bezels is just as/more compact.
The 21:9 aspect ratio isn't that great, but it's far more practical than a 18:9 or 19:9 or 20:9 screens.
I can even prove the point with mathematics:
Phone 1)
1600 x 900 screen
5.2 inch screen (115mm × 65mm = 7,454mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 125mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 86.7%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 86.7% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 64.8% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~80%

Phone 2)
1700 x 900 screen
5.4 inch screen (121mm × 65mm = 7,779mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 131mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.0%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 82.7% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 69.6% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~75%

Phone 3)
1800 x 900 screen
5.7 inch screen (130mm × 65mm = 8,384mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 140mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.5%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 77.4% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 72.9% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~70%

Phone 4)
1900 x 900 screen
6.0 inch screen (138mm × 65mm = 8,986mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 148mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.8%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 73.2% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 79.1% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~65%

Phone 5)
2,000 x 900 screen
6.2 inch screen (144mm × 65mm = 9,281mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 154mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 88.1%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 70.3% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 82.1% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~65%

Phone 6)
2,100 x 900 screen
6.5 inch screen (152mm × 65mm = 9,869cm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 162mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 88.4%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 66.9% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 88.4% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~75%

  • Anonymous

I wont buy unless it is as long as vacuum cleaner stick.