Counterpoint: Global smartphone market is alive thanks to China and India

01 November 2019
Other key market leaders are stagnant, Realme increases its market share nine times.

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  • Anonymous
  • mJs
  • 04 Nov 2019

Im glad America isnt the leading market - otherwise we'd only have apple and samsung, and that would be pretty sad ;)

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    • Anonymous
    • kkJ
    • 02 Nov 2019

    realitychecker, 02 Nov 2019I'll say it again, US is not the only market out there. And... moreWho said the US was the only market? You’re so quick to attack the US, you’re making your own arguments up.

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      • freshluvsam
      • XIa
      • 02 Nov 2019

      ah! so all noises huawei is making.......their sales actually includes huawei and honor device sales put together, meaning technically APPLE is still de number 2 brand.........chinnese manufacturers and lies hmmmmmmm

        Dometalican, 02 Nov 2019Not the point. There are multitudes of us in the US that do... moreI'll say it again, US is not the only market out there. And I am not being ignorant by saying that, coz its true.

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          • Dometalican
          • 7BB
          • 02 Nov 2019

          realitychecker, 02 Nov 2019Hence, I said US isnt the only market in the world. You can... moreNot the point. There are multitudes of us in the US that don't like iPhones and we want more choices than Samsung, LG, Pixel, OnePlus, and budget devices so that was an ignorant statement.

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            • Dometalican
            • 7BB
            • 02 Nov 2019

            Abhi-Darth-Plagueis, 02 Nov 2019The situation where Chinese (and some other) companies suff... moreWhile Sprint is a little behind on it, both Sprint and Verizon support VoLTE so if the phones have it with the supported LTE bands (which most unlocked phones have VoLTE), you just call the carrier, give them the IMEI, and then they approve the device on the spot so it's easier now.

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              • Anonymous
              • NL{
              • 02 Nov 2019

              Anonymous, 02 Nov 2019It will be and no they won't lol. I'm personally looking fo... moreLet the stats speak for themselves.... With iPhone going down to 400 it'll no longer have premium vibe to it anyways....

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                • Anonymous
                • vV5
                • 02 Nov 2019

                Nick Tagataka, 02 Nov 2019"If BBK and Xiaomi are confident about their products then ... moreWhy would there wanna waste time in US ? probably you want a China phone like Xiaomi but it doesn't support US LTE band, you should thank Trump for that, soon the American can only buy overpriced iPhone & nothing else, US will be a closed market hiding inside the wall there build...hahaha US just repeat China history.

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                  • Adul Al Salami Kebab
                  • nrX
                  • 02 Nov 2019

                  Huawei do no need Murica, they benefit from Europe but in the grand scheme of things they can do fine with Eastern Europe and use Yandex store... V-V (Europe will if this sanctions do not end get some re branded phones and if they do not sell they might just pull out of EU...)

                    Anonymous, 02 Nov 2019Last I checked, only one Chinese smartphone company is offi... more"If BBK and Xiaomi are confident about their products then why don't they support our LTE bands"
                    Probably I should ask you, why would they have to support US LTE bands to prove that they are confident about their products? Because I don't see any logical connections between those two statements.

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                      • Lancewood
                      • bJb
                      • 02 Nov 2019

                      US market is too insignifcant for China device makers. Biggest telco in China has customer numbering almost 4 TIMES america's TOTAL POPULATION. You are just a spec a dust.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 3b1
                        • 02 Nov 2019

                        Where nokia i dont want chaina or american huawei, xiaomi or expensive samsung phone.

                          Would love to see Huawei's secret ingredients, if any, whether they have any secret weapons (feature, design, price and other strategies) big or innovative enough to possibly overtake Ssmsung. If they have anything that, even without the support of Chinese citizens' patriotic purchasing decisions, could dethrone the current king.

                            Of course it's alive because they are selling smartphones with flagship-tier spec for much less price than a proper flagship. I'm willing to bet that even OnePlus is feeling the strain of other flagship killers, particularly Xiaomi's Redmi and Oppo's Realme.

                              BBK is already bigger than Huawei with all of its subsidiaries.

                                Dometalican, 02 Nov 2019Thank you. I wasn't trying to make the US the center of att... moreHence, I said US isnt the only market in the world. You can have your iphones thank you.

                                  The situation where Chinese (and some other) companies suffer in US predates the trade war. And the reason is: USA phone market is largely dominated by carriers. Without them supporting a phone with their lucrative 2 year offers, good luck selling it unlocked for huge money.

                                  India and China don't have that model. Phones go directly from company to user, without carrier meditating the waters.

                                  Then there's the situation where Support for Sprint and Verizon requires additional hardware inside the phone (but correct me if I'm wrong on that account though).

                                  Then there are trust issues going both ways. Americans don't trust Chinese and Chinese companies don't trust American government.

                                  Finally there's the size of market in these 2 countries alone.

                                    Anonymous, 02 Nov 2019Huh? Chinese phone makers were barely in the US in the fir... moreExactly, They were not selling in the US, that's why. Why expect them to accommodate your bands. Hence I said, US isnt just the only smartphone market in the world.
                                    Also, I clearly said "in my view" which meant my statement is a mere opinion, not a fact. With trade war going on, the bans and delisting of Chinese companies in US, one could expect these companies, Chinese or US alike, to be weary of making businesses with the mentioned countries.

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                                      • Dometalican
                                      • 7BB
                                      • 02 Nov 2019

                                      Anonymous, 02 Nov 2019Last I checked, only one Chinese smartphone company is offi... moreThank you. I wasn't trying to make the US the center of attention. It's just impossible to sell anything in the US if the LTE bands aren't there. They ARE phones at the end of the day

                                      Why else (other than software) does OnePlus have a strong foothold in the US?

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • kkL
                                        • 02 Nov 2019

                                        realitychecker, 02 Nov 2019i said, blame the governments. the trade war, in my view, h... moreHuh? Chinese phone makers were barely in the US in the first place. Like the person you were originally replying to stated, if Chinese companies don’t make phones with US bands, how do they expect to sell anything in the US, with or without carrier support.
                                        What data are you basing your opinion on? Has their been a survey of Chinese OEMs published somewhere that we don’t know about?

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