Samsung Galaxy S11 to use second-gen 108 MP sensor
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- 05 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Do not compare the cooling of videocameras with "gaming cel... more8k 30fps should be no problem for modern Smartphones in 2020 with mobile cooling itself.
Nubia magic did 8k 15fps without any heat issues.
Newer chipset along with more advanced thermal cooling is enough to do 8k 30fps without producing much heat.
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- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Your "pocket camera" can't outperform expensive smartphones... moreHonestly ... the rx100 , the Ricoh grii , the Fuji x70 , the canon g7 , the Panasonic lx10 all cost half the price of a flagship phone and all take much better pictures than any phone , the rx100 mk4 will happily take great 4K video as well .... you need to go and shoot some real pocket cameras and stop talking rubbish on the internet mate
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Cameras have dedicated image processor, while cellphones re... morePocket cameras cannot compare to smartphones. "They have better lenses" - They don't produce better videos, or better photos. So at the important part, they fail. It doesn't matter what they have.
Zooming in too much on any photo makes the photo look bad.
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- Anonymous
- atf
- 04 Nov 2019
Here we go again going back to tiny pixel with fake night mode.
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- Anonymous
- LQw
- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Chipsets are much more efficient these days while thermal c... moreDo not compare the cooling of videocameras with "gaming cellphones".
Those cameras used by movies and TV channels are huge, have fans inside much stronger than desktop computers.
While phones have 8,5 mm thick. Glass body and waterproofing.
Did you know cameras APSC and Micro 4/3 usually have better video skills than Full Frames? More space inside available to get rid of heat.
8K30 on a phone would be at least 150Mbps. Most cant barely deal with 45 for few minutes.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Your "pocket camera" can't outperform expensive smartphones... moreCameras have dedicated image processor, while cellphones rely on ISP inside the cpu.
Pocket cameras have lenses with quality miles ahead of cellphones.
None of them have oil painting effect.
Go to Phone Arena and look at the comparison Note x Pixel 4 x 11 Pro Max. Even using night modes the photos are awful when you see the crop.
Companies like Sony and Canon still making pocket cameras with 1/2.3" sensors.
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- Anonymous
- g3t
- 04 Nov 2019
234, 04 Nov 2019and pixel 4Samsung is on par with Apple and Pixel.
Probably a difference of 2-3pts(depending on scene) between them on a scale of 1 to 100.
One plus is clearly behind Pixel, Samsung and Apple by margin of 7-8 pts
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- Anonymous
- g3t
- 04 Nov 2019
vrvly, 04 Nov 2019Even dxo shows saturation on sunlight is high. Its not in e... moreThose are minor issues which can be corrected with some tweaking in the settings. AI on or off can make huge difference.
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- Anonymous
- g3t
- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Samsung took 6 years to remove the 10 min limits of 4K30 be... moreChipsets are much more efficient these days while thermal cooling has already shown to work great on gaming phones. So 8k can be managed without device heating up.
BTW that limit was easily removed by a tweak from xda.
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- Anonymous
- n5X
- 04 Nov 2019
Good camera but wen you use it the battery drains worse than heavy gaming they should improve that
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- Anonymous
- LQw
- 04 Nov 2019
LG Superfan, 04 Nov 2019It will have DRAM but the sensor is also going to be slight... moreI think Samsung wastes money on this kind of tech.
Pointless to make a more expensive sensor just to use HD 960fps.
Sony phones also use ir for anti-distortion shutter and predective capture.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Just buy a dslr with a huge lens hahahaha
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- 04 Nov 2019
Nick Tagataka, 04 Nov 2019Or the same sensor but with stacked DRAM.It will have DRAM but the sensor is also going to be slightly different
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 20191) I used LG as example because it is only brand that uses ... moreYour "pocket camera" can't outperform expensive smartphones. Not at night, not at day, not ever. When it comes to recording videos, people struggle to notice the difference between videos taken with 30.000$ camera and the latest iphone. And you think your pocket camera has a chance.
When it comes to photos, smartphones take way better photos than compact cameras do. Assuming they are in the same price range, that you are using proper apps in smartphones, that you are using suitable settings, and that you bought smartphone that focuses on camera quality... you will have better photos with smartphones.
DSLR with all the extra equipment could beat smartphone in image quality, but smartphone beats it in price and in video quality and in ease of use, mobility, storage and playback.
Larger sensor doesn't mean better quality. At best with larger sensor but same pixel size you will have wider angle of camera view. But even that advantage is negated with smartphones using wide angle lenses.
With larger pixels, you might have better quality, but that is rather limited. Too large pixels, and image loses sharpness and detail is diminished.
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Samsung still cant beat Huawei image quality since 2017.
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- Anonymous
- LQw
- 04 Nov 2019
Nick Tagataka, 04 Nov 2019"Even checking the few devices (all I know are LG) that use... more1) I used LG as example because it is only brand that uses glass lenses. I know all other brands provide better photos than LG. Except devices Lenovo/Motorola.
2) Better photos of huawei are because the better hardware, even with worse software than Google and Apple. It has nothing to do with lenses. It is like comparing Micro 4/3 against APSC .... None should be comparing cameras of much different size, almost 2x.
3) no, I mean the pocket cameras have lenses much better than cellphones. Even at f3.5 my pocket camera can outperform pixel 4, s10, 11 pro at night because of better lenses and image chip.
4) if even many of professional lenses cant resolve 40, 50, 70MP.... of course cheaper plastic lenses of cellphones wont. Lenses made by Canon, Nikon and other 80 years ago have better quality than ones from cellphones.
5) Tetracell is just Samsung name , it is copied from Sony Quadbayer tech. At full resolution there is no gain. This 108MP won't give same detail amount of native 108MP, but almost same of a native 27MP if lenses could resolve 100%. The only advantage of this tech is more control over DR.
Non-quadbayer 27MP 1/1.3" would be than quadbayer 108MP 1/1.3".
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 04 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Nokia originally maybe. But now our huawei supposedly havin... moreWell yes, didn't you see the zoom? Lmao
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- 04 Nov 2019
kyth, 04 Nov 2019Panasonic CM1 - released in 2014Let me rephrase, Waiting to see a who's gonna be the first to make a phone with a Micro 4/3 sensor
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Nov 2019
Nick Tagataka, 04 Nov 2019Or the same sensor but with stacked DRAM.Or the same sensor with different name