German ruling forces Apple to let third party mobile wallets use NFC on iPhones

15 November 2019
Apple Pay has been the only mobile payment app to have NFC access on iPhone but that will soon change.

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Haidy, 15 Nov 2019Give me an alternate of Samsung Pay. Even equal if not bett... moreGoogle Pay … I'm in the UK and use it all the time on my Note 8 and it works flawless.

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    Anonymous, 15 Nov 2019Europe refulations are crazy. Why would someone need a DIFF... moreno they are not.

    I do not possess a visa/mastercard card, I use deutsche bank account.

    To use apple pay I have to use a virtual card created by deutsche bank app for only apple pay. It works fine but now my data is stored with "deutsche bank + apple + mastercard".

    Instead when nfc is open, then only deutsche bank knows my information. All machines in europe/germany support 'EC payments' as alternative to visa/master.

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      Anonymous, 15 Nov 2019Europe refulations are crazy. Why would someone need a DIFF... moreYes but say if one day, Apple figures they dominate the smartphone market of one country, they could go crazy and start charging fees everywhere. That's what happens with monopolies. This ruling will effectively prevent this.

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        123, 15 Nov 2019and where exactly do we have NFC pos terminals?? 90% of the... morealmost 100% of terminals I used in past 2 years support nfc

        more than 50% of terminals do not accept magnetic cards, either EMV chip cards or 'tap and pay'

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          Anonymous, 15 Nov 2019Europe refulations are crazy. Why would someone need a DIFF... moreand monopolization is the best

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            Europe refulations are crazy. Why would someone need a DIFFERENT wallet app? I mean it’s just a wallet app and it does what it should be doing. What benefits would other similar apps bring to the table? Apart from security issues

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              Haidy, 15 Nov 2019Give me an alternate of Samsung Pay. Even equal if not bett... moreThere's not

                This is good, Apple should let 3rd partys do their stuff.

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                  NFC in Germany?.. Who needs it?
                  Their technology's still in medieval.
                  No proper internet,
                  no mobile coverage,
                  no accepting cards in parking machines ( or payment thru mobile application)....

                    Give me an alternate of Samsung Pay. Even equal if not better.
                    I'll wait.

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                      123, 15 Nov 2019and where exactly do we have NFC pos terminals?? 90% of the... moreI haven't been to a store without tap to pay all year. They all have it.
                      Regarding the write up thoughts on whether other countries will follow suit, EU law dictates that a ruling like this in one EU country applies to all others unless the defendant can overturn it in Maastricht.

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                        and where exactly do we have NFC pos terminals?? 90% of them are MST
                        ;))))

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                          Quattro King, 15 Nov 2019- Apple's response to the ruling came soon as the iPhone ma... moreYeah, in this case I totally agree. Google Pay is only one of many payments you can have on Android, I haven't seen anyone complaining about security. But iPhone users are already used to this kind of limitations I believe...

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                            The thing in Germany, and in Eastern Europe too, is that we still prefer cash compared to other western European countries. I see banks pushing card payments but if you go outside cities, there are chances you will come across a bar or a restaurant that does not accept card payments. Cash is still going strong and people want it to stay that way, despite banks introducing all kinds of charges for depositing cash in banks.

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                              Quattro King, 15 Nov 2019- Apple's response to the ruling came soon as the iPhone ma... moreI mean, aside from the iCloud incident, has there been other incident where people got their account data stolen in Apple?

                                - Apple's response to the ruling came soon as the iPhone maker pointed out the possible security and data breaches that could follow as a result.

                                Yeah, it's always the security that is the same lame excuse every time.