OnePlus bids farewell to the 3 and 3T with final security update

19 November 2019
OnePlus has committed to 2 years of OS updates and 1 additional year of security updates for its phones.

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I had this phone since Jan 2017 and it is the best phone i ever had. I knew that its updates were coming to an end and got myself a S10e. Despite getting a new phone i will still keep the 3T for as long as i can. 😥

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    • Zteam
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    • 21 Nov 2019

    Kangal, 21 Nov 2019Here you go : ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2C-gA8jEy... moreVery interesting thanks for the Link 🙂

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      • LoboOne
      • PVW
      • 21 Nov 2019

      I love OnePlus, hv been used Oneplus One and Oneplus 3T, but i hv to say goodbye cause there is no office import in Indonesia and gov will block IMEI for all black market phone :(

      Thank you Oneplus to accompany me for 5 years...

        Zteam, 20 Nov 2019Interesting... Have to admit I totally missed that news, b... moreHere you go : )
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2C-gA8jEyY
        https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/sessions/67/#20190910

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          • Zteam
          • CM0
          • 20 Nov 2019

          Kangal, 20 Nov 2019Yes, and that's exactly what Google is attempting to resolv... moreInteresting...
          Have to admit I totally missed that news, but it sounds very exciting indeed, do you happen to have any link, related to that news, because I would love to read some more about it? :-)

            Zteam, 20 Nov 2019Unless the socs maunufacters continues to update their driv... moreYes, and that's exactly what Google is attempting to resolve this past week.
            They're in talks at the Linux Plumbers Conference to achieve the unification that I spoke of about. So as I alluded to before, they might be making a "BIOS" for Android on ARMv9.

            That's a behemoth task, but they have before 2022 to get it finalised. And in many ways this would be the right call. When starting out, Android's future was uncertain, and it wasn't quite known which hardware platform would be useful (RISC, ARM, x86, etc etc). But now? It's quite obvious that the future for Android is monopolised by 64bit on ARM hardware. You would've noticed 32bit is practically obsolete, x86 is behind in IPC, performance and efficiency, and RISC-V looks promising theoretically but has failed to materialise into something tangible. So Google will probably axe the Android-x86 project and get rid of 32bit support.

            The new Android12/Fuscia platform may be a "hard-fork" and a chance to start over fresh with ARMv9. Just like how MS closed the Windows Phone 7 platform, and started shipping phones with Windows Phone 8. As crappy as that sounds, I think it would be the best call, just like a band-aid, rip it off fast. Android Ecosystem's current shape is a mess with lots of fragmentation, security, and privacy issues. A re-build as outlined above, can fix all those issues in the ecosystem.

              Kangal, 20 Nov 2019Logical fallacy. At best you could argue about "inflation"... moreOh, and I just checked the global inflation rate from 2014 to 2019, and if it was $350 in 2014, the current market price should be $422.71, not $380. And there is no doubt that the inflation rate for technology products should be much higher than the average rate.

              The other thing I wanna say is that the quality of material on Oneplus phones are actually increasing. If you tear the phone down you would find out in their early products the inside parts were messy and cheap, while now are tidy and compact.

              Personally I also want the Oneplus to keep its previous operating way. But when the weight of a companies becomes large, they definitely would change the strategy. I understand why it changed. 'Never settle' cannot be realized in the low quality market.

                NickNameNick, 20 Nov 2019Addition, it's pleased to see that you said it raise from $... moreIt's obvious.
                The OnePlus One was one of the best phones of 2013-2014. It was a flagship phone. The price was significantly below that of LG, Samsung flagships. The OnePlus 7 is not a flagship phone, it is an Upper-Midrange phone, and it cannot compete against the other flagship phones from LG, Samsung, etc etc. However, the OnePlus 7 Pro is competitive against these flagship phones, not entirely, but to a certain degree. So when you compare the price of the OnePlus 7 Pro to that of the LG G8 and Samsung S10, it is not much cheaper, in some markets it is actually MORE expensive.

                If you were paying attention, you would've noticed the shift. OnePlus does not want to make devices for enthusiast or prosumers. It does not want to become the "Nexus" phone. They used the modder community to establish a foothold and generate a reputation. Afterwards they used that limited success to change their target audience. The company stopped caring about enthusiasts around 2017, they only care about their perceived reputation, and they care to expand to a large lucrative mainstream market. One of the reasons they used to play things risky is because if OPO company failed, it didn't matter, since it is just a sister company to Oppo, Realme and Vivo (BBK Electronics corporation). Think of ZTE (Nubia, Alcatel, Blackberry, etc etc), or Lenovo (Moto), or Huawei (Honor), or Xiaomi (Redmi) etc etc.

                My advice?
                To be more consumer-friendly; make devices more affordable, more durable (flat screens, glass protectors, etc etc), and include more features (wireless charging, IP68, headphone jack, IrDa blaster, microSD slot, front-firing stereo loudspeakers, etc etc). But that would be bad for business.

                To be more profitable; continue on the current path to make devices more expensive, spend more for advertising, make device less durable, and have less features (avenues for accessories, or cheaper BoM).

                  Kangal, 20 Nov 2019Logical fallacy. At best you could argue about "inflation"... moreAddition, it's pleased to see that you said it raise from $350 in 2014 to $380 in 2019. Cause the price of oneplus 7 is $380. And the 7T is $435, which you also didn't mention in your price comparing chart. I'm cursed about why you only place the price of Pro for 7 series.

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                    • Zteam
                    • CM0
                    • 20 Nov 2019

                    Kangal, 20 Nov 2019They're trying to change that; they already brought the And... moreUnless the socs maunufacters continues to update their drivers for longer you will still be stuck at the same Linux kernel, with all security issues that be coming from uses an older kernel. :-/
                    Android upgrades directly from Google on all phone models from all manufacters would be great, but I haven't seen anything pointing in that direction really.

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                      • Zteam
                      • CM0
                      • 20 Nov 2019

                      Anonymous, 20 Nov 2019Why can't Android be like iOS and support their devices for... moreUnlike computers ARM-phones doesn't have a BIOS, so every time you get upgrade the Linux kernel the drivers has to be updated too, at the same time Android is usually based on a quite recent kernel because of security and hardware support.
                      The problem is that Qualcomm (or whichever Socs manufacter your phone uses) wont update the drivers for more than a few years, and there isn't really much the phone manufacters can do about it.

                        Kangal, 20 Nov 2019Logical fallacy. At best you could argue about "inflation"... moreI totally agree with you about the For-profit point. All of the companies they are doing business not the charities(even most of the charities' main aim are crediting the tax). What I tried to say is their target market has not been changed a lot as you said. And you cannot expect the company to wait for all countries to develop. When the most Asian countries trying to develop and do business, you can see what EU and Middle East were doing. Processions and wars cannot bring you more jobs and pays.

                        And from the OV companies strategy we can easily notice that they funded the 'price-friendly' brands like Oneplus and Realme in the low and middle range developing countries. In that period, their main aim was to get the market share, they didn't care about how big the profit was. After the brands getting stronger, they came back to CN market with great international comments and competitive price. Meanwhile, the previous markets are willing to pay for the raised price as the brand is famous right now, and the price is still in the acceptable range.

                          Anonymous, 20 Nov 2019Why can't Android be like iOS and support their devices for... moreThey're trying to change that; they already brought the Android Linux kernel into the Mainline Linux kernel, and they introduced Project Treble.

                          Google is now trying to unify Android, so that all devices use the same kernel as Linux Distributions (Debian/Fedora) and also the same ROM. Hopefully they can arrange that with all chipset providers (eg Qualcomm) and all OEMs (eg SONY) before 2022, when the next-generation platform arrives (ARM v9).

                          That way it's possible for companies to make platform upgrades without using custom code. So that you can still have your SkinnedOS like MIUI, but you can revert (and vice versa) it to PixelOS with the touch of a button and a restart. And all Android Updates (platform and security) can be pushed directly to the device, either from the Play Store or OTA, since any modifications won't affect the actual system (they'll be only be cosmetic, or to hide/show settings and functions).

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                            • Anonymous
                            • vry
                            • 20 Nov 2019

                            Should be at least five years considering how they have the nerve to market them as must buy during their time.

                            Five years of updates that won't break the device, that it.

                            Ios is not all bells and whistles if you care to dig around geek/non geek forums and just rely on your flawless personal experience.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • vry
                              • 20 Nov 2019

                              Anonymous, 20 Nov 2019Why can't Android be like iOS and support their devices for... moreYou do realize that IOS has a small lineup of models while Android has gazillions coming out Chinese factories, right?
                              If you cannot be bothered to choose a brand that has proper customer support or is not geek-unfriendly and go thru the process of tweaking your phone, go for Iphones.

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                                • Jix
                                • 20 Nov 2019

                                Why can't Android be like iOS and support their devices for longer?

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                                  • 20 Nov 2019

                                  Lol, and here I am still using my OP3T since April 2017 :3

                                    Boldy, 20 Nov 2019A lot of these phones had 64GB/128GB variants which you hav... moreYou have to though.
                                    OnePlus removes the microSD card from the phone, so you're stuck paying for more storage. Besides, they're only keeping up with the competition in this regard. The RAM comes as a bonus, but proper studies show it doesn't actually affect performance. Besides, you are foolish to use this as an excuse because OnePlus actually has one of the smallest prices for increasing storage size compared to other OEMs. So that completely nullifies your point.

                                    If the OnePlus 7t Pro came in a 4GB/64GB version with a microSD slot, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But even in that case, I don't think it will cost significantly less, since OnePlus will try to increase their profit-margins in anyway possible (again that's good for business, but bad for consumers).

                                    I would say the last flagship-killer they had was the OnePlus 3t (6GB/128GB) at $479 it was actually well-specced against the Xiaomi Mi 5S+, Meizu Pro 6+, Huawei Mate9 Pro, Huawei P10+, ZTE Axon 7, LG V20, LG G5, LG G6, Samsung S7, and Samsung S7 Edge.

                                      NickNameNick, 20 Nov 2019Dude, how much does your salary raise in the past five year... moreLogical fallacy.
                                      At best you could argue about "inflation", but remember this is a short stretch of period and the rate of inflation is worse in other countries, where salaries don't catch-up, but fall behind. For instance, in a place like Turkey (which is neither rich, nor poor) if you could afford a OnePlus Flagship in 2014, you would NOT afford it (x2.1) in 2019. Why? The wages actually gets lower while the inflation rises, and this is a populated, industrial, second-world country situated in Europe.

                                      Even if you compare it to the international market, where a $350 amount in 2014 would only rise to $380 in 2019 and not $720. So the is concrete proof here that 190% price increase was made by the OnePlus company, and only 8% price increase was due to inflation.

                                      You have to remember OnePlus is a FOR-PROFIT company, and to increase prices is just business-wise. It is not consumer-friendly. So people saying that need to stop and admit it. And removing features is something that should never be defended by consumers. You don't owe these companies anything. I am not singling OnePlus or being biased against them, many companies have become less competitive and less consumer-friendly in the past 5 years. However, OnePlus has shown the worst regression among them, by going from a very consumer-friendly company to something neutral or bordering on consumer-hostile. I can do the same thing for Apple, but it will take a while, and we already know their history, don't we?

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                                        • rxi
                                        • 20 Nov 2019

                                        Kangal, 19 Nov 2019Here’s how good/much value the devices offered during a bri... moreA lot of these phones had 64GB/128GB variants which you have just omitted to make your point. The 3T, 5, 5T, 6 had much cheaper 64GB/6GB variants which were plenty for their time. Comparing 256GB for other phones of their time will make you believe how much cheaper OnePlus phones are.

                                        Also, OnePlus still released the OnePlus 7 which was better than the 6T for a lower price than the 6T. So they don't increase prices every time. They have just moved from being midrange devices with flagship SoC to true flagships with features of their own (90Hz screen, awesome software with long support, UFS 3.0 and so on which few other phones have).

                                        If you want value for money devices, you have your Xiaomi phones. Go ahead and use them. You'll realize how much things like software matter and why phones with good software have lower specs (since software development and support is expensive AF).

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