Sony unveils 2x2 on-chip lens tech for Quad Bayer sensors, which promises better AF performance
- EmojivsKimchi
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- 15 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 14 Dec 2019That's weird.. My xperia Z2 can do thatRecently I am using a China phone.
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Dec 2019
EmojivsKimchi, 12 Dec 2019I have try the touch focus but fail too. The tiny object is... moreThat's weird..
My xperia Z2 can do that
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- AnonD-894375
- uJA
- 13 Dec 2019
Batil, 12 Dec 2019Ironically Sony is manufacturing most of their products in ... moreYes, camera photos is all about hardware AND software. Sony produce some of the best consumer grade sensor. Ask any serious photographer using dSLR and Fullframe, most would agree sony sensor is one of the best. Sony mirrorless has also proven to have superior focusing to all other brand, and they achieve it in less than a decade in the mirror camera business.
and NO, im not a Sony fan, I don't own any sony product other than the sensor in my Nikon dSLR. But truth is truth, no need to find excuses for your hatred.
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- AnonD-894375
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- 13 Dec 2019
EmojivsKimchi, 12 Dec 2019I have try the touch focus but fail too. The tiny object is... morecan't help without any photos. Problem could be any of these
1) object is too small to be pinpointed for focus
2) backlight situation which is hard for camera to focus
3) blur photos due to high zoom and shake
4) lens/sensor resolution is not to capture any details, making it looks out of focus
5) you have went pass optical zoom into digital, thus lack of detail and same as no. 4
6) object is shadowed by foliage, lack of contrast for focusing
- DroidBoye
- vx2
- 13 Dec 2019
Batil, 11 Dec 2019The moving subject got much closer to the lens on second vi... moreThe difference is not how "fast" it's how decisive the camera on it's focus points. I understand your concern but the main problem that were being addressed in the video is accuracy and decisiveness. Less focus bouncing means that the camera already know where to focus (2x2 OCL) which you can infer that it's fast while the focus bouncing on the conventional sensor shows that the sensor is slow to focus and overshoots because it needs to test other points first in order to establish the best-case focus points which results to bouncing. You would say that it is rigged because the subject is too close on the conventional? Then I would advice you to check the bounce that happens when the subject has been removed from the scene, it still focus-bouncing on the background which denotes that it really has an inferior AF.
- DroidBoye
- vx2
- 13 Dec 2019
EmojivsKimchi, 12 Dec 2019I have try the touch focus but fail too. The tiny object is... moreLol, do you even know how camera AF works? I mean the object is too small overhanging on a tree swaying back and forth and you expect your camera to AF that tiny object? WTH. At that point, you should have used a telephoto lens (if exists on your phone), that's what telephoto is for.
Pro mode also exist, if you don't have a tele, then use the manual AF under the pro mode.
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- AnonD-894375
- uJA
- 13 Dec 2019
Batil, 12 Dec 2019No i don't, even a kid know that the background is separate... moreFrom your comment, obviously you have no idea how camera lenses work. I have already explained, if the car is even nearer to the lens/sensor of the sony, the focus have to travel more, this is assuming FOCUSED background distance is the same. If you do not even understand this, please do not claim you are a photographer.
- EmojivsKimchi
- vV5
- 12 Dec 2019
DroidBoye, 12 Dec 2019Focusing on a tiny object is very tricky when using AF.I have try the touch focus but fail too. The tiny object is hanging and swaying, I couldn't focus correctly even the touch focus.
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- Batil
- L1w
- 12 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2019Hating on Sony phones I somewhat get. It's exaggerated but ... moreIronically Sony is manufacturing most of their products in China :)
what is more ironic? the Chinese smartphone companies and the Americans and the Koreans has surpassed Sony mobile in Camera department by using Sony sensor while Sony can't!
So No it's not the image sensor it's the software behind it which's something Sony mobile couldn't make it right since Xperia z!
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- Lincoln
- D0b
- 12 Dec 2019
Love the Community, 11 Dec 2019Stop saying that they'll copy. It's called standardization.... moreStandardization is good, that way we can keep track of things.
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- Batil
- L1w
- 12 Dec 2019
AnonD-894375, 12 Dec 2019You contradict yourself... If background is same distance (... moreNo i don't, even a kid know that the background is separated from the moving subject (the car), so if the moving subject got closer/bigger that means it has been moved closer to the camera, in this case it's very obvious on Sony sensor, and no it's not the lenses got shifted you trying to brag on Sony with a new lie? the moving subject has been moved closer in favor of Sony sensor, pause the video and tell us why there's a big different in the distance of the car while it is same distances for background?
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- AnonD-894375
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- 12 Dec 2019
Batil, 12 Dec 2019Go ahead and pause both video ar 0:03 second and see how th... moreYou contradict yourself... If background is same distance (far), and focus object is closer (near) on the sony, it means the lens have to shift more distance. Unless your initial focus pane is closest to the sensor.
It takes longer time to refocus from lets say 3cm to 0.5m than 3m to 1m. And this aside, the Sony is able to lock on faster with less focus hunting.
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- Anonymous
- 0V7
- 12 Dec 2019
Batil, 12 Dec 2019Go ahead and pause both video ar 0:03 second and see how th... moreHating on Sony phones I somewhat get. It's exaggerated but I get it, they could've made better and more marketable phones.
But hating on Sony sensors? Get outta here lmao. It's because of Sony your Chinese smartphone has "incredible camera performance".
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- Anonymous
- pQr
- 12 Dec 2019
You don't need to call this a Quad Pixel Quad Bayer sensor. Quad Pixel already means that 4 subpixels have the same color filter, just like a dual pixel where 2 subpixels have the same colour filter. Nobody says Dual Pixel Dual Bayer sensor..
Though the difference is here that you can output high resolution images by using all subpixels according to Sony. With a dual pixel sensor that's apparently not possible due to the microlens. There is also the option for a different HDR technique, but it's unclear whether this HDR technique works better and whether companies actually use it.
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- Batil
- L1w
- 12 Dec 2019
AnonD-894375, 12 Dec 2019No, it will only focus faster if you start from the nearest... moreGo ahead and pause both video ar 0:03 second and see how the moving subject is 2x closer and closer to Sony video, the background in both is same distance which's indicate that some one's changed the subject position on Sony!
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- Anonymous
- J4D
- 12 Dec 2019
This is when I say exmor is better than isocell.
The 64MP 1/1.7" isocell does not have this tech.
Rumors say there will be exmor 108MP.
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- Anonymous
- J4D
- 12 Dec 2019
Imx686 is the sensor of this article.
- DroidBoye
- vx2
- 12 Dec 2019
EmojivsKimchi, 11 Dec 2019Recently I have take a photo which the tiny fruit hang on t... moreFocusing on a tiny object is very tricky when using AF.
- DroidBoye
- vx2
- 12 Dec 2019
Wikipedia has already listed IMX686 to have this feature, well they're not the best source there is but the latest Quad-bayer for smartphone from Sony is the IMX686 and this feature is for Quad-Bayer. :)
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- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
- 12 Dec 2019
Anonymous, 11 Dec 2019The S and Note series are your proof. I know a photographe... moreThe difference in image quality exists between Exynos and Snapdragon variants, so it's most likely caused by the different software algorithms that each chipset employs in post processing. Anandtech states they might use different optics as well. The most and only convincing way is to shoot RAW photos out of Redmi Note 7 and 7 Pro (or SD/Exynos S10 that your photographer friend owns) at the same time and location, using identical ISO and SS settings.