CR: Apple is still the top earner in the smartphone world

19 December 2019
Apple's profit margins remain untouchable.

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  • 21 Dec 2019

AnonD-833125, 20 Dec 2019We don't hate Apple, we just love our money. When Apple i... moreCan you build premium phone and sell it for 300 dollars?
Phones dont grow on trees kid,
Instead of wasting your and our time talking nonsense better start researching how development, manufacturing and distribution works.

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    • gKC
    • 21 Dec 2019

    AnonF-85937, 21 Dec 2019Let me save you time buddy, Apple own 52% of the GLOBAL PRE... morepure lies 🤣

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      • fjc
      • 21 Dec 2019

      Bill Jobs, 21 Dec 2019You clearly don't know the market conditions right now.. Ap... moreLet me save you time buddy, Apple own 52% of the GLOBAL PREMIUM Smartphone Market:
      https://m.gsmarena.com/5g_phones_occupy_5_of_the_global_premium_smartphone_shipments_in_q3_2019-news-40430.php

      Like I said before, Androids only sell in terms of low ends.

      People have chosen with their wallets, once they can afford a Premium phone they go iPhone and drop Android. :)

      Jog on mate.

        I'mPhone, 21 Dec 2019Yet the security updates are pushed late. Haha I compared ... moreAs I said only Apple fanboys or some people in USA mostly cry for updates.. Kitkat 4.4 does all jobs very well and has penalty more features than iOS 13.. Show your crying to other Apple guys

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          • 6ca
          • 21 Dec 2019

          Anonymous, 21 Dec 2019"You should look at the Note 10 in GsmArena. They didn't sp... moreYeah whatever...did you even read the article?

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            • Anonymous
            • XRg
            • 21 Dec 2019

            [deleted post]"You should look at the Note 10 in GsmArena. They didn't specifically mention its bad thermal throttling and average battery consumption with overrated UI (that causes device slowdowns at the end). GsmArena is also hiding something from some Androids they review too."

            Maybe they tested it and found no shortcomings in the long term review. You either have a bad unit or you are just trolling.

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              • Anonymous
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              • 21 Dec 2019

              I'mPhone, 21 Dec 2019Show me that Shamsung's SoC does not throttle badly and doe... moreHave an S10, no WiFi dropping issue, you got a bad unit.
              Besides, all chipsets throttle under continuous load like gaming for hours.
              Only phones with special cooling system like gaming phones don't throttle.
              Apple Ax chipsets doesn't even have any cooling technology. It is in the same boat as Exynos and Kirin when it comes to thermal throttling

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                • Anonymous
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                • 21 Dec 2019

                I'mPhone, 21 Dec 2019Don't know??? Explain why there are lots of custom software... moreTo unlock full potential of the phone which is a dream for any low IQ iOS user

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                  • Anonymous
                  • km}
                  • 21 Dec 2019

                  I'mPhone, 21 Dec 2019I think chip throttling means that it is designed to reduce... moreSo you are arguing about a specific model of chipset from a generations that in fact is also only in some devices. While other regions get one with better gpu performance. And on to of it not even bad performance. Just not as good as the other flagship... And again... Is only this model. And besides these past two generations majority of the past 10 generations of that chip we l was actually the overall more efficient chip. Sometimes even in gpu.
                  And use that to try and create some argument that this is why Android has"so many issues" and is way worse????

                  What on Earth happened to intelligence among people?

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                    • 21 Dec 2019

                    a simple dude, 21 Dec 2019Stop lying to yourself thatÂ’s embarrassing... Big An... morePlease don't embarrass yourself. Xr is never the flagship.

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                      • KiX
                      • 21 Dec 2019

                      Anonymous, 21 Dec 2019Chips throttling during graphical intense states is not the... moreI think chip throttling means that it is designed to reduce peak performance (CPU clock speed) when a device starts to heat up. This automatically decreases the performance of the device, to prevent internal damage to the device because of excessive heating.

                      I am actually using an Exynos variant of the S10e I mentioned. This model is prone to stutters, overheating, or lag in certain games, despite some background applications being shut down and cleared RAM. I feel it is the bad chipset architecture, mediocre GPU and poorly implemented UI to blame. Well, GsmArena has done a long-term review for the S10+ and Note 10 and they mentioned about performance, you should take a look. Performance of a phone, which is related to lag, stutter, etc. in games later depend on chipset, GPU, RAM, Operating system, and heat dissipation solutions. In powerful high-end phones it is hard to notice prolonged loading times/lag/etc. after sustained load, but this will take effect in lower-end phones.

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                        • 21 Dec 2019

                        Anonymous, 21 Dec 2019Go fix a phone throttling on a graphics intensive scenario.... moreI am using the Exynos 9820 S10e, not the Sd855 model. They are different, the GPU is not the same.

                        The Sd models are less prone to overheating and lag/stutters in games. Meanwhile, the same cannot be said to the Exynos model. While the CPU is quite strong, it is badly designed using old architecture solutions (r2p1) and weak GPU (Mali G76 Mp12 which is only equivalent to Apple A11 GPU). Maybe you've never touched the Exynos variant. It cannot maintain stable framerates in games even in lower setting. So the chipset is also to blame. I really suggest you give the Exynos model a try.

                        To sum up, Samsung is cutting corners in their SoC (Exynos 990 loses to Sd865 already). Oh I also mentioned dropping wifi issue. I hope this clarifies your doubts.

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                          • KiX
                          • 21 Dec 2019

                          Bill Jobs, 21 Dec 2019You surely didn't get the base conversation.. s7 got two ye... moreYet the security updates are pushed late. Haha
                          I compared a Note Fan Edition with my S10e. The Note didn't get any updates, even security patches until months after the S10e did.

                          Look at iPhone, even the 6s can still upgrade to ios 13.

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                            • 21 Dec 2019

                            a simple dude, 21 Dec 2019Stop lying to yourself thatÂ’s embarrassing... Big An... moreUm hello. Logic. ios only has iPhone to sell. Nothing else. On the Android side samsung, Google, Sony, lg, Huawei, xiaomi, Asus, oppo, oneplus, on and on have to fight each other for sales.

                            So duh with only iPhone it sells more as a single device. Duh. But compared to Android? Pales in comparison. But it simply costs more for less put out. So they still rake in the profits.

                              a simple dude, 21 Dec 2019Stop lying to yourself thatÂ’s embarrassing... Big An... moreAre you able to read? I said the whole android flagship market which is diverse by so many companies.. Don't bring s9 alone.. Obviously whole flagship line of galaxy series (S/Note) have to consider.. And the market is about android vs ios, not iOS vs android (Samsung).. And as I said before the 40%-50% of shares in North America sells their 80%-90% devices.. And can't do anything special outside their den..

                                Bill Jobs, 21 Dec 2019Not really dude.. If look at the whole android market,, all... moreStop lying to yourself thatÂ’s embarrassing... Big Android players like Samsung canÂ’t even sell the amount of flagships in a year that Apple does in a month. Apple sold 12 millions XR in a weekend when Samsung sold merely 20 millions S9 in a year.
                                In the flagship market no one can match Apple and that’s just a fact.

                                  Vj02, 21 Dec 2019Who wouldn't want software updates on their device??? Andro... moreYou surely didn't get the base conversation.. s7 got two years major updates and many minor updates even more security patch updates..

                                    AnonF-85937, 21 Dec 2019Unfortunately the market doesn’t agree with you. Most Andro... moreNot really dude.. If look at the whole android market,, all android flagship completely outsell all iPhones series combined by millions!

                                      AnonF-85937, 21 Dec 2019English is not my first or second language but I make an ef... moreYou clearly don't know the market conditions right now.. Apple has the most shares only in North America.. But in other regions they stands nowhere beside Samsung or Huawei.. If I can I'll give you the market conditions of Q3

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                                        • fjc
                                        • 21 Dec 2019

                                        [deleted post]English is not my first or second language but I make an effort, I suggest you do the same.

                                        You did not read the source article I see:
                                        “ The loyal premium user base in the major markets like the USA, EU and Japan”
                                        Not just the USA but also Europe and Japan, basically the majority of Developed Countries prefer iPhone, speaks volumes, shows that when people have the funds, they go for iPhone, as majority of Androids sold are low end throw away crap.

                                        Then again most flagship Androids are also throwaway crap because their support is so short and their prices drop so quickly. :)