Counterpoint: iPhone XR was the top-selling smartphone globally in last quarter

26 December 2019
The iPhone 11 was also one of the top 10 best-selling smartphones worldwide in the quarter.

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  • Anonymous
  • UNy
  • 30 Dec 2019

I would love to get an iPhone 11 with reduced price when the iPhone 12 will be released. For the time being my iPhone 8 Plus serves me perfectly well. I have never liked Android, it’s unnecessarily complicated, iOS strikes the right balance between features and simplicity. Moreover, there are better apps for the iPhone, the same apps on Android lacks features that the iOS version offers. That means I can do more on an iPhone than an Android.

    Wow, congratulations Apple.
    I've thought for some time that the iPhone XR was an appealing buy.
    Seems like many others think so too.

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      • AnonD-907885
      • 3aW
      • 29 Dec 2019

      Anonymous, 29 Dec 2019I hear this all the time but literally, what do you even us... moreDefinitely not a fan of Apple. You're right, people hardly take advantage of the gimmicks that manufacturers introduce. However, Apple are too restrictive, even WP was decent and that was a closed-source OS with MicroSD card support and emulators.

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        • IHateiPhone
        • XIa
        • 29 Dec 2019

        Anonymous, 29 Dec 2019I hear this all the time but literally, what do you even us... moreSaid it all bro, [not to forget] an unproductive keyboard, without a number row - what are they even waiting for? Can't split screen, etc...

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          • Anonymous
          • Mx@
          • 29 Dec 2019

          Aslipundit, 28 Dec 2019People comparing iPhones with Android phones should underst... moreI hear this all the time but literally, what do you even use your phone for?
          Will it run the main apps? Is it snappy to use? Does it have a good camera? Both Apple and Android do these.

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            • ncr
            • 28 Dec 2019

            Too much Apple.

              People comparing iPhones with Android phones should understand that iOS is a restrictive os that is a walled garden. You can do so much more on an android phone. Its comparing a semi smart is with a full fledged os that can run on computers.

              Usb otg peripherals.. still cannot
              Pointer support... Not there
              Transferring files... An annoying experience due to the retrograde iTunes...
              Emulators on IOS? Nope... No chance..
              Removable storage.. blasphemy
              Connecting generic gamepads, mice and styli to iPhones? Impossible.
              Proper file system access? No can do
              Browser with non WebKit engine? Not happening. Stick to WebKit browsers with cosmetic differences.
              Installing non app store apps? Never gonna happen...

              And many more..

              Don't compare a crippled and lightweight os like iOS to a full featured os like Android.

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                • Dolby
                • Nbg
                • 28 Dec 2019

                YBahadir, 28 Dec 2019What is done in this video does not give an idea about the ... moreUh huh...

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                  • YBahadir
                  • J2M
                  • 28 Dec 2019

                  Dolby , 28 Dec 2019Check this : https://youtu.be/ngF15Etl7zY This is CPU... moreWhat is done in this video does not give an idea about the SoC capacity of the devices. This gives you an idea of the memory and ssd speeds of the devices.

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                    • piku
                    • DkB
                    • 28 Dec 2019

                    AnonD-804996, 28 Dec 2019Except iPhone XR still beats ALL Snapdragon 855 and 855+ ph... moreWell iphone users can't differentiate between good screen or can they? You say you can't see pixels on XR display but I have seen its display fonts looked jagged and you say 1080p display drains battery I am hearing this one for the first time QHD display drains the battery for sure but not 1080p.
                    My Oneplus 6 with 3,300 Mah battery lasts 2 days comfortably and it has a 1080p display well this phone's stock camera is not great but installing GCAM solves that issue and I will be getting 3 major OS updates.
                    I am not an Apple hater in fact I like iPhone 11 pro but iOS closed ecosystem prevents me from buying iPhones and i feel XR is a waste of money I would rather buy a Samsung S10e if I want a compact phone.

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                      • piku
                      • DkB
                      • 28 Dec 2019

                      AnonD-804996, 28 Dec 2019What good is billion cores when everything lags and stutter... morewhy are you comparing the performance of cheap android phones with apple? If you want to compare performance you should do with android flagships which are similar prices to apple secondly what is the use of such powerful chip in a phone with 828p display lol you guys can't even watch a movie in full HD on XR.

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                        • kalel
                        • sXb
                        • 28 Dec 2019

                        Dolby , 28 Dec 2019What area does it excel at if not the screen, battery, came... moreExactly it's average for you. But not for others. Others may find your favourite devices average as people have different tastes and different needs from their phones.

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                          • Dolby
                          • Nbg
                          • 28 Dec 2019

                          kalel, 28 Dec 2019Don't agree with anything. It matches other flagships in so... moreWhat area does it excel at if not the screen, battery, camera, charging, speed or features?

                          I think the issue is more that an iPhone user cannot believe his device is average. That's a trigger word most iPhone users.

                          It's average. To me.

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                            • AnonD-804996
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                            • 28 Dec 2019

                            Dolby , 28 Dec 2019Except it's not faster? Have you ever seen them side by sid... moreWhat good is billion cores when everything lags and stutters like mad? Basically every single Android phone ever with very rare few exceptions that don't have such issues.

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                              • kalel
                              • StU
                              • 28 Dec 2019

                              Dolby , 28 Dec 2019I think we agree then? Although it can't match the other... moreDon't agree with anything. It matches other flagships in some things and excels in other things.
                              Just read the review on this website also and nowhere it's mentioned it is average and it does mention how it excels in some areas.
                              If u name the best 3 android flagship phones then 1 will be better in some areas than the other 2. It doesn't mean the other 2 are average. Obviously u don't like iphones but others do

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                                • Dolby
                                • Nbg
                                • 28 Dec 2019

                                kalel, 28 Dec 2019It doesnt fail in anything. If it's not the fastest in the ... moreI think we agree then?

                                Although it can't match the other flagships, it's a solid average phone.

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                                  • sXb
                                  • 28 Dec 2019

                                  Dolby , 28 Dec 2019Sorry - posted before I was done. Fast charging is 130% ... moreIt doesnt fail in anything. If it's not the fastest in the world at doing something then it doesn't mean it fails. Whether it's faster at certain things or not, overall it still functions like a flagship phone should. It doesn't matter if other phones are faster at charging or wireless charging. As long as it's fast enough then who cares

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • p7d
                                    • 28 Dec 2019

                                    Dolby, 28 Dec 2019Fair point. But most people tend to navigate and use app... more” It's a bit bizarre that the fastest chip on the planet can't open Netflix or Spotify faster than the same generation Android?”

                                    It’s not, Apple have slow stylish transition animations, already that makes a difference when loading very light apps. Like i said opening those small apps can go either way, sometimes Android phones load them faster and sometimes it’s iPhone.

                                    Also usually iPhone apps have more visual candy which takes more time to load, while Android versions are more simple visually.

                                    Look this video where Mate 30 goes against pro max in game loading times https://youtu.be/1CX1L0_F7jk 6-2 won for iPhone. And app loading 5-6 to huawei. Just like i said, the more demanding the task is the better iPhone power shows, because CPU actually have to do something.

                                    https://youtu.be/uOPnzoUFECo same here. This is speed test iPhone X vs 11 Pro. Opening those small apps no real difference even if the device is two generation older, but end part of the video the guy open games, clear difference.

                                    These devices are so fast already, so if you want to benefit the extra speed you need to do more demanding tasks, just like if you buy new PC and want to benefit from that

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                                      • Dolby
                                      • Nbg
                                      • 28 Dec 2019

                                      Dolby , 28 Dec 2019Except it's not faster? Have you ever seen them side by sid... moreCheck this :

                                      https://youtu.be/ngF15Etl7zY

                                      This is CPU on my Huawei running at standard speed - against the A12 which is supposed to be multiple times faster? On paper, it's fantastic - but check real world?

                                      You must see what happens the CPU is running at full speed. It's quite embarresing having an A12 that can't keep up...

                                      That XR gets 104 photo quality on DXOMark. That Huawei is 125. 104 may seem OK to you, but not to me :/

                                      Here's the battery drain from XR generation - again, good enough for you. But not if actually wanting an advanced phone.

                                      https://youtu.be/LkiniAkBOyU

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                                        • Dolby
                                        • Nbg
                                        • 28 Dec 2019

                                        AnonD-804996, 28 Dec 2019Except iPhone XR still beats ALL Snapdragon 855 and 855+ ph... moreExcept it's not faster? Have you ever seen them side by side? The XR is lightning quick on benchmarks - but all of that falls flat in the real world.

                                        I didn't say the camera was bad? If you're happy, then that's all the matters? Same with the battery? If you think it's great, then who am I judge?

                                        I'm just stating fact - but if it's 'good enough' for you, then great.