Samsung Galaxy S20 family to reportedly feature 120Hz displays

07 January 2020
The report cites a reliable source and the entire S20 lineup will feature smooth displays.

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  • sebstin

So no more compact phones from Sammy!!!... Time to move to apple SE2 or I9..

  • Anonymous

EskeRahn, 08 Jan 2020Thanks, was unaware of that. Most likely that is the problem Sha... moreSharp is one of the LCD suppliers for Xperia.
LG and JDi are the other.

Sharp has two phones with oled.
One has 120Hz, the other has 240Hz.
Both have less than 3300mAh.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 08 Jan 2020Ok. So they disabled it cause the device didn't support it. You ... moreDisable to not impact battery endurance.

Anonymous, 08 Jan 2020" It turns out that there are more Sony devices that have a hidd... moreThanks, was unaware of that. Most likely that is the problem Sharp had a solution for with the IGZO, with less waste heat generated on quick refresh.
see e.g. https://android.gadgethacks.com/news/s-0181023/

(And found your quote here https://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-xz-pr­emium-hidden-120hz-screen-mode-razer-phone/ if anyone wonders)

Anonymous, 08 Jan 2020Sony had over 300ppi earlier than thatEarlier than 2006? I was unaware of that, what product?

  • Anonymous

EskeRahn, 07 Jan 2020And as usual the authors overlook Sharp that was out with 120Hz ... moreSony had over 300ppi earlier than that

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 08 Jan 2020" It turns out that there are more Sony devices that have a hidd... moreOk. So they disabled it cause the device didn't support it. You don't think other companies like Samsung could have put an unusable 120hrz display in a device? But for what purpose?

  • Anonymous

EskeRahn, 07 Jan 2020Xperia X did not have 120Hz AFAIK. Their first was XZ Premium, b... more" It turns out that there are more Sony devices that have a hidden 120Hz display mode disabled by the kernel. XDA Recognized Developer Myself5 went digging into the source to confirm to us that the Sony Xperia X, Sony Xperia X Performance, Sony Xperia XZ, Sony Xperia XZ1, Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact, Sony Xperia XA2, and Sony Xperia XA2 Ultra all support this screen mode. Basically, any new Sony phone except for the Sony Xperia X Compact should support this mode."

XZ2 Premium is 144.

  • Anonymous

EskeRahn, 07 Jan 2020Xperia X did not have 120Hz AFAIK. Their first was XZ Premium, b... moreAll Xperia 1080p or above are 120Hz.
Except, XZ2 Premium

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 07 Jan 2020Xperia X was first LCD 120Hz XZ2 Premium first LCD 144Hz Sha... moreWhich Sony didn't give officially, so doesn't count.
Plus the 120hz on Xperia will kill its already poor battery life.

Anonymous, 07 Jan 2020Xperia X was first LCD 120Hz XZ2 Premium first LCD 144Hz Sha... moreXperia X did not have 120Hz AFAIK. Their first was XZ Premium, but that was early too, early 2018.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 07 Jan 2020Most useless features in the history of .... ever. Phones get t... moreCan't make people buy new ones with swappable battery models.

Look at Apple joining the club of flooding the markets with numerous models.

The company that started the sealed battery trend and then crushed a right to repair law in the US.

  • Anonymous

EskeRahn, 07 Jan 2020And as usual the authors overlook Sharp that was out with 120Hz ... moreXperia X was first LCD 120Hz
XZ2 Premium first LCD 144Hz

Sharp has Aquos Zero II with 240Hz 1080p oled.

And as usual the authors overlook Sharp that was out with 120Hz in 2018
https://www.gsmarena.com/sharp_aquos_r2_compact-­9406.php

Just iike they ignore that sharp had 327 DPI displays years before aPple
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMax=2­009&nDisplayDensityMin=327

ADD and Razer in 2017! https://www.gsmarena.com/razer_phone-8923.php
(with a Sharp IGZO display...)

  • I'mPhone

hmm, 07 Jan 2020Not the point that you can turn it 60Hz and 120Hz. All Flagship ... morePacked for gaming alright...unless it's a proper gaming handset, expect early throttling for such phones when playing graphics intensive games. Samsung is too rushed for releasing a 120Hz display, when they even took half a year to fix the fingerprint sensor issue in the S10/Note 10 series (except S10e). Maybe I'll wait for next year.

  • I'mPhone

Anonymous, 07 Jan 2020Most useless features in the history of .... ever. Phones get t... moreWell let me suggest as well the quality of the OS and chipset. Phones don't work well with a poorly optimised OS.

Samsung has a very user-friendly OS, but it is not optimised well enough. Had a S10e Exynos and opening apps can be slow at times, clearing cache and background apps is a must. Speaking of the chipset, it seems Samsung has kept using a cheap one. My Note FE (which I owned before the S10e) has lots of slowdowns and it's quite clunky. Playing games aren't good experience too, with thermal throttling taking place almost instantly in graphics intensive games. The S10e isn't as severe but it does still happen.

By the way Samsung may innovate but they forget to fix or ensure the quality of some fundamental features of their product. Let's say the punch hole cam.

  • hmm

Anonymous, 07 Jan 2020I am sure Samsung will make it variable. Down to 60hz when not n... moreNot the point that you can turn it 60Hz and 120Hz. All Flagship phones of today is hardware packed for gaming and i really dont understand what are these apps that need all that power or even higher Hz.

  • I'mPhone

Let's see how well Samsung OLED displays are calibrated. Generally their OLED panels tend to be blueish, unlike Apple's iPhone XS/11 Pro. I have already heard reports of screen burn in in several Samsung S/Note series displays (despite normal use). Very low PWM flicker is a typical issue in many Samsung phones (though the iPhones also have low PWM). Based on my experience with the S10e, setting the blue light filter is a must and the bad thing is unlike Apple's True Tone display, the S10e doesn't adjust adjust automatically to surroundings.

While 120Hz is a step forward, it does take a toll on battery life. I hope Samsung does not equip its global version S20 with the Exynos chipset and use its 5000 MAh battery.

I don't want to see excessive screen flicker at low brightness, this has happened to Pixel 4, even ROG Phone 2 (several phones with high refresh rate).

By the way punch hole is a bad idea, face recognition was terrible in the S10e (can be triggered with eyes closed and can't be used in dim lighting conditions). Fingerprint sensor needs a fix, and its UI while user-friendly, needs a lot of refinement (never tried OneUI 2 though).

  • Love the Community

Ahh, I love the community here. I can tell which commenter is a peanut brained Apple immigrant and Android Chads. The Apple guys are people who never used the settings and can't do anything to change, like they'll keep it as is despite complaints. The worst part is that they didn't read the comment that it can be toggleable through, guess what, SETTINGS!

  • Morten E|

That "hidden menu" is pointed to the Note 9 and not S10! If you look closer...