Lumias aren't competitive enough, say European carriers

17 April, 2012
The high price tags, mediocre marketing plans and some software issues are to blame.

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  • 18 Apr 2012

EdB, 17 Apr 2012Windows may have a few blips of interest, but it's pretty m... morecouldn't be more agree with you. and where do u stand nokia in nowadays? i went in nokia flagship shop in one of it's retail shop in malacca, Malaysia and notice that the new phone lumia 800 sharp edge was peeled off. dear design team, please re-consider your effort and think about the user experience and environment. things would not last or shape that is hard to take care of will chase away your precious customers! at least, you should chamfered the edge a little bit in order for the things to withstand some pressure on it. look at iphone design or samsung. learn from their ergonomic design and alter to your belief. as for the inner part, your hardware seems not a rival to them at all nor your software portion, to me though.

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    • 18 Apr 2012

    AnonD-45553, 17 Apr 2012I wander how much were they paid to say this! It makes me l... moreLOL funny how you fanboys keep claiming things to make Nokia look less bad. If anything Nokia would be the one's bribing the carrier's as they got $200 MILLION DOLLARS USD from Microsoft PER YEAR to promote their Lumia series.

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      • 18 Apr 2012

      trimalo, 17 Apr 2012incredible! I have a Lumia 800 Cyan, (before an HTC) and I ... moreehem excuse me i have seen the Nokia lumia 800 im was surprisE on the screen it was pentilr, the pentile matrix is visible (very visible )making all things pixelated, i remember Nokia fan claiming Nokia clear Black display on lumia 800 was better than sgs II, maybe he/she never had/seen a beautiful screen as sgs II or iPhone 4 in her entire life

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        • 3H$
        • 18 Apr 2012

        I had the the Nokia N8 and was fed up waiting for updates and also tired of the phone which was buggy. Even the scrolling was erratic. So with bad experience I ruled out the Lumia and bought a 4S instead.
        Guess what,it works first time and every time!

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          • 17 Apr 2012

          Nokia has their own OS and uses Windows also. I think that they should use Android also and let the market decide which is the best. If they do this, it will be the first company to offer three OS at same time. Different people have different thinking. Personally, I belive that have market for all OS (in different scales, of course). Many people loves and hates all of OS. Let them make a choice.

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            • 17 Apr 2012

            Chris_0o, 17 Apr 2012HaHa!! You dont need an app for that!! I'ts built-in... ... moreI think you're missing my point: The built-in app is not for power users. Where are apps like OmniFocus, Things etc.

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              • 17 Apr 2012

              Regardless of what people say or who likes the lumias. Nokia is dying and trying to stay a float in the ocean that is apple with the sharks that is google.

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                • 17 Apr 2012

                I wander how much were they paid to say this! It makes me laugh dat even those carriers are after nokia's ass.. Poor creatures.. Watever it is nokia will regain its top spot! Mind you

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                  • 17 Apr 2012

                  maximG, 17 Apr 2012To all nokia big share holders, fired mr. Idiot elop. Act n... moreI think you are too harsh. But I kind of agree with you. Lol

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                    • 3HE
                    • 17 Apr 2012

                    I remember arguing with nokia reps that nokia had to start using android and being told andorid will die quickly and maemo was the way forward. Now they dump that for WP7.

                    Nokia has to use android or it will die in the smartphone market. It will continue to sell basic cheap models but without android, its smartphone share is dead

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                      • 17 Apr 2012

                      Windows may have a few blips of interest, but it's pretty much dead on arrival. People want apps. When they pay a lot of money, they want a known. Nokia has gone from Symbian to Maemo to Symbian3 to MeeGo, not to Windows. All over the place.

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                        bongbong, 17 Apr 2012If Lumias are'nt competitive enough.... what about others? ... morestupid...then who's stopping nokia from using android...is it me or u???y r they using wp7 if it i such a bad os??

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                          • 17 Apr 2012

                          cleo, 17 Apr 2012"No one comes into the store and asks for a Windows ph... moreI actually think is the paper boy who said that and not some mysterious hotshot at one of the biggest mysterious carriers

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                            • 17 Apr 2012

                            The Nokia N9 is a good example how bad things are at Nokia,because how many companies produce one of there Best Products an then not let be sold Globally to boost the Sales an Portfolio of the Company,but Mr Elop was so scared that the Nokia N9 would dinting the demand for Windows phones,but Nokia could have used Symbian or Meego to save them like it as Windows as been a Failure,Windows needs to more Open an not to Restricted

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                              • Anonymous
                              • 8y8
                              • 17 Apr 2012

                              Nokia + android =would be the best of the best. now Nokia is die with Windows...

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                                • 17 Apr 2012

                                Tizen Takeover, 17 Apr 2012Thats where you and ALOT of Android fans are wrong. MeeGo i... moreWith due respect,and considering your ID, i assume that you are aware of the fact that Nokia, in no way can get back to MeeGo, except that you 'like' nokia to do so.

                                Nokia - MeeGo(Maemo) is flop. Nokia laid the stones to Meego's abend byt itself.

                                Just waiting what samsung - Tizen shall bring in.

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                                  • 17 Apr 2012

                                  AnonD-24476, 17 Apr 2012One should understand that these people sitting at stores a... moreYou ever thought that maybe the sales rep didnt have faith with the lumia.I sell all brands bit dont recommend wp7 as its flawed boring and customers dont like it.You ever thought about that?I was given a lumia for free from nokia so whos bribing who to sell there products.Samsung apple htc have never sent our stores any demos because they know there products are what people want and that shows in sales.Its a shame that nokia fanboys wont move on.Your beloved wp is failing fast and thats the facts.Im sorry to be homest but thats the way it is.I for one would gladly buy a nokia handset if it was android, i enjoy the customisation and intergration it offers and i use and ipad so im not biased in any way.

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                                    • 17 Apr 2012

                                    incredible! I have a Lumia 800 Cyan, (before an HTC) and I love it, best design (no cheat plastics like Samsung, curved screen, gorgeous colors), Clearblack screen (see Home movie on the Lumia 800 and compare it with 4S, Lumia has a better screen), free super navigation thanks to Nokia Drive, free music thanks to Nokia Music, live tiles (sorry iphone lovers, your tiles are fixed...), MS office with xcel, PP, Word..., Xbox games, no bugs! The only weak point is the number of apps, close to 90 000, but rising very fast... and no need for 30 000 Sudoku apps like on iOS. the Lumia is better and cheaper than the I Phone, the hardware of the Lumia is more than the Iphone and I phone is 150 euros more expensive! it is going to take time but Lumia rocks! if you disagree, try it first!

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                                      • 17 Apr 2012

                                      To all nokia big share holders, fired mr. Idiot elop. Act now, stop world's humiliation on your employees, they are innocent. 'Mr. Stevie elops' is the world's most stupid ceo i have ever know about. NOKIA is dying...

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                                        • 17 Apr 2012

                                        Fruitcake, 17 Apr 2012Nokia an there decision to employ Mr Elop as been a total d... moreYou seem to know so much more about running a company than Mr. Elop, I'd like to see YOU head a major division as CEO.