Apple fined €25 million in France for throttling iPhones via OTA updates

08 February 2020
Apple wasn’t fined because they slowed down phones, it was fined because it didn’t tell its customers it was slowing down their phones.

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  • Anonymous
  • 6wN
  • 08 Feb 2020

Every phone slows down. Operating system doesn't matter. Three years is enough to keep your phone.

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    • AnonD-754814
    • uNV
    • 08 Feb 2020

    Hello Life, 08 Feb 2020Yes .. it's good.. I have been using the iphone 7 plus for ... moreunderstood.

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      • RC255
      • 3a4
      • 08 Feb 2020

      Yea, €25mil will make them correct their ways. They won't notice that at all and carry on doing what they do. Making people upgrade earns them 10x that 'fine'. Pay €25mil to earn €200mil? Easy choice.

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        • m2J
        • 08 Feb 2020

        Anonymous, 08 Feb 2020i can do 90% on my nokia of what an iphone can do for 1/4 t... moreI can do 150% over your Nokia with my Xiaomi and it cost me 1/2 of the nokia price with same hardware. Nokia is worse then Apple as it tries to be like apple that lives more from it's brand name but Nokia is failing on that cause it's always late with new models to a time point there models hardware is already too old for there new models.

          Perfectly justified. Apple should’ve informed customers properly.
          Now if only Android has the same feature of showing the battery health of the phone. And no, info from most battery apps are fake or highly inaccurate.

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            • K-Master
            • XPI
            • 08 Feb 2020

            apple deserves it !! apple makes old device slow down to force to buy new one . because they don't have better hardware than andriod recently . i become to hate apple . they don't repect users and not making worthy to buy , only making increasing price and nothing better .

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              • Anonymous
              • Ic7
              • 08 Feb 2020

              Anonymous, 08 Feb 2020More than an iPhone 5 years in the future. Even Android 2.... moreOh really. Mind mentioning some.

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                • Anonymous
                • KSu
                • 08 Feb 2020

                lol, 08 Feb 2020im not using iphone but hey what you can do with an android... moreMore than an iPhone 5 years in the future.
                Even Android 2.3 does more than latest iOS.

                  €25 mil? A mouthful of spit compared to an ocean of bloodmoney Apple has in it's coffers, the stuff it acquired through lying, deception, cheating and strong arming it's customers and it's suppliers.

                  I wish it could have been 25 billion. Then perhaps, it could've made a difference.

                    Mike.M, 08 Feb 2020Samsung are much worse with their updates who make old phon... morethis is taking thing abit out of context...

                    Samsung is just being incompetent, whereas on the other hand, Apple is being a cunning douchebag who dishonestly fool the customers.

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                      • 08 Feb 2020

                      im not using iphone but hey what you can do with an android phone 5 y older ? lol lol lol lol lol

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                        • Anonymous
                        • KSu
                        • 08 Feb 2020

                        Anonymous, 08 Feb 2020There is difference. Apple slow phone to allow older models... moreHahaha, sure thing, slowing down older devices so they can work?
                        Delusional!

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                          • Anonymous
                          • KSu
                          • 08 Feb 2020

                          s-pen pusher, 08 Feb 2020apple's reason for slowing down old devices is seemingly pl... moreYour brother and your cousins anecdotal evidence doesn't matter, A court has already judged Apple being guilty of this malpractice.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • KSu
                            • 08 Feb 2020

                            Hahaha where are the Apple brand Fa*atics spamming in every forum about how good apple's 5 year support is?

                            There you go -

                            Apple gives you latest features 5 years late while slowing down your phone and battery while restricting features in the process (technically forcing you to upgrade).

                            What good is that kinda software support?

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                              • Anonymous
                              • Bwx
                              • 08 Feb 2020

                              A big part of Apple's business model has always been planned obsolesence. I'm pretty sure the do this with their iMacs also. I know lots of people who complain about how they get slower and slower over time. There is no good reason for this. Meanwhile, I have much older systems with much less powerful CPUs, running Linux and they are way faster. Same with Windows. I don't have an issue with Windows machines slowing down over time. Apple is just an abusive company, who has fooled it's customers into thinking their products are superior to everyone, because they come in shiney hardware.

                                Serves them right in my opinion.
                                If only they made it transparent there would be no issues, but they decided to hide it, which we all know is wrong. Giving people option to turn it off is a good thing.

                                  apple's reason for slowing down old devices is seemingly plausible but it is not. yes, there is an option to turn off throttling but it comes toggled on by default. i have a brother who uses an iphone se as a secondary phone, also a cousin who uses my old iphone 4s, but according to both there is no noticeable difference at all in terms of battery stamina whether this "performance management" is toggled on or off. apple also says this is to prevent older phones from randomly shutting off, but this is not observed as well. both of them still has the original batteries the phones came with. there is noticeable decrease in performance though when it is toggled on, both said so much so that it becomes annoying so they'd rather just have it turned off. yes, of course, the battery charge indeed is no longer as it was when brand new, but still the fact remains that there is no noticeable difference in terms of battery stamina nor is there random shut off that apple is said to be preventing. i have read in some forums that this is the case for most iphone users, even those who claim to have badly decreased battery stamina.

                                  i'm calling on users of old iphones here to test their devices themselves for this, because it really is bad for apple to do this- it is like mentally conditioning you that brand new iphones is the way to go every year.

                                    AnonD-754814, 08 Feb 2020So, looks like the long term software update is up to no go... moreYes .. it's good.. I have been using the iphone 7 plus for 3 years+ now.. I am still using it as secondary device.. and it hasn't slowed down at all. But even if apple does it to improve the longevity of the phone.. I won't mind the 2 extra seconds to open up a game or a split second delay in opening Facebook. i know time is money, then again, I am no Bill gates

                                      Wonder Boy, 08 Feb 2020There another company sued Apple for copying their software... moreActually that's a previous case. Lates one is developer suing Apple for stealing idea calls on others to join the fight.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • Kxu
                                        • 08 Feb 2020

                                        ASUS ROG Phone 3, 08 Feb 2020So Apple is no different from Huawei in terms of faking be... moreThere is difference. Apple slow phone to allow older models to work longer. And note, if these phones have new batteries installed they work fine!

                                        Huawei in the other hand, fake new phones!!

                                        If you ask me, this ruling is silly. Its optimization on old hardware.
                                        But one good does happen, it make apple show it in the settings.