MediaTek unveils Dimensity 1000+ chipset with 144Hz support, iQOO teases phone
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- 27 Aug 2020
LilPhone, 07 May 2020A13 performs nearly as well as SD865 but with worse thermal... moreBro Helio G90T was made at 12nm ! But it works well! If Helio G90T was made in 7nm then it may can beat 800 SD series! And now Dimensity 820 and 1000+ was made in 7nm ! They both beating the Snapdragon 800 series🔥💯✔️
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- 08 Aug 2020
MediaTek Chips Are Fantastic.They Killed Snapdragon With Their New Dimensity Series.
Dimensity 820 kills Snapdragon 855+
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- 13 May 2020
Alpha8, 11 May 2020I don't think mediatek processor is any better than snapdra... moreYou know Vivo? Great, you will be glad to read that
iQOO is a sub-brand of Vivo...focussed on gaming devices
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Vegetaholic, 10 May 2020Pink elephant dreams :) A13 is untouchable and once new iph... moreNo one cares about a processor which is handicapped by poor co-hardware & the ecosystem it runs on.
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ZolaIII, 07 May 20201. 3Q of this year, apparently vivo is working on a phone w... moreI don't think mediatek processor is any better than snapdragon. And I don't know about this unknown brand iqoo which is really a strange name. Is it any good. I never believed in Chinese devices but for the last six months using a Vivo flagship and really impressed by it. I was using the Nokia 9 which by itself is a very good phone with some flaws but this vivo nex s is an awesome device it has been my main device since. Display, gaming performance, spekaer sound, gsm reception, flawless fingerprint reader and deep sound through speakers. Games sound awesome through headphones on nex s, I can hear gentle footstops at the back with first person shooter games while the same game sounds lame with Nokia.
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MagicMonkeyBoy, 07 May 2020Keep your eyes on mediatek... 1000+ This is the next thi... morePink elephant dreams :) A13 is untouchable and once new iphone will come up with A14, again will be no competition, you should now that
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LilPhone, 07 May 2020A13 performs nearly as well as SD865 but with worse thermal... moreEven a thermal throttled a13 performs better than an sd865 in gfxbench, source anandtech.
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- 09 May 2020
Ussr, 08 May 2020That's impossible to sell it for this price minimum 250$ wi... moreThankfully, it's true.
A SoC usually costs around USD $50, and not x5 at $250.
What dictates the price is the price of the wafers, supply availability, and demand.
Since phones are a lucrative market, there are many high tides ($105) and low tides ($20). But the bulk a phones cost for a customer is actually Profit Margin, and the Marketing Budget. The Redmi phones are ones closest to their cost price, which is why I mentioned the PocoF1 as a reference.
It is unfortunate that Apple has chosen to increase profit margins, firstly with the iPhone 6 Plus, and then later with the iPhone X. It's more unfortunate that OEMs have chosen to follow this trend. And now Qualcomm has taken opportunity of this happenstance and used 5G excuse to raise prices. Triple-bad is that the economy worldwide has slipped making it bad for consumers everywhere.
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- 08 May 2020
Kangal, 08 May 2020I think everyone needs to remember the Bill of Materials (B... moreThat's impossible to sell it for this price minimum 250$ with those specs
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- 08 May 2020
Kangal, 08 May 2020I think everyone needs to remember the Bill of Materials (B... moreQualcomm's costs can change very fast.
The price you're talking about means nothing as you're forgetting discount.
As Qualcomm main profits come from patents.
In 2016, margin on patents was around 600% and OEM haven't any choice as some of these patents are essential.
With that kind of profits, Qualcomm doesn't respect FRAND engagement.
80% of Qualcomm's profits came from patents.
Margin on soc was around 15%...this is abnormaly low (it should be around 30 or 40%).
If Qualcomm decides to cut their soc's price by 30%, they can do...
It's predatory pricing...it leads to competitor's eviction.
It has been prooved :
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_19_4350
Rumors said it's what Qualcomm did with SD765.
https://wccftech.com/snapdragon-765-price-cut-compete-mediatek-dimensity-1000l/
40dollars, that's the price you give for Snapdragon 710, this one has nothing to do technically with SD765!
Sadly, overpriced patents lead to 5 or 6 billions dollars profits...
242 millions fine won't force Qualcomm to change anything!
Do you think actors like Intel or NVIDIA could be pushed outside the phones market by a company which respects rules? i doubt.
Sadly market will be flooded by obsolete video decoders on SD765/865 when D1000 is a modern one with AV1 support!
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- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 08 May 2020Wrong comparison Bro.
S20+ runs at QHD+ resolution while N... moreYes we have to look at amount of pixels, true
There is 78% more pixels on S20
But G77mp11 on exynos should be nearly 4 time more powerfull compare to G76mp4 on G90T (due to number of cores and newer architecture).
According to GPU, Exynos should be able to run QHD at 120fps without any framedrop
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- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 08 May 2020Haha, where did you get that info?
Ppl have already unlock... morefake apps. it will be news everywhere if that is true.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/why-galaxy-s20-will-probably-never-get-120hz-qhd-resolution/
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- 08 May 2020
LilPhone, 08 May 2020Yes they were. And a Chinese Youtube video has mentioned th... moreWrong comparison Bro.
S20+ runs at QHD+ resolution while Note 8 pro runs at 1080p+ resolution.
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- 08 May 2020
I think everyone needs to remember the Bill of Materials (BOM) of a phone.
For a "flagship killer" it can be around $190 and for a full-on flagship it can be around $310. That $10-$120 might not seem like a lot, but when you multiply that by thousands or millions of units, it makes a difference. It's how you can make the difference between a Xiaomi PocoF1 versus Samsung Note9, two phones competing in different market segments. Besides, a $200 BOM is typically aiming to be sold AT LEAST for $400, so a $350 bom phone is aiming to be sold AT LEAST for $700 (Business Rule of +100%).
So if MediaTek has a chance really depends on their availability, and the price. If Oppo needs 2 Million but MediaTek can only supply them with 600,000 units... well, Oppo won't be buying. And if each unit costs $50, yet Qualcomm is charging $60... well Oppo is going to opt for the Qualcomm tender instead.
For the longest period Qualcomm was offering their flagship chipset at very affordable prices. And they flexed enough stock to serve the needs of most OEMs. It's no surprise they became a "monopoly", because they offered a High Quality product at Good Prices. I mean, their SoC's have great co-processors and great software (Adreno drivers!) support.
Rumour has it they have increased the cost of this year's flagship Snapdragon 865 slightly, plus the Mandatory 5G modem as a separate cost. I think the chipset is about $80, plus an extra $10 for the 5G modem, giving a total cost of $90. But that's for the wholesale price later in the year. The initial batch always costs more.
Samsung are the ones to buy up all the initial batch. Well, as a company their devices have higher rate to sell, and they have higher quantities to make. For that reason, the initial batch of Snapdragon chipsets go to them because they can afford it. I think the Q1 2020 phones (S20) should be costing about USD $105 per chipset. That's a lot. But to put it into perspective, Intel was charging as low as $250 for Core m3-Y chips, and as much as $450 for the Core i7-U chips. On-average about $300 per chip, and that's just the CPU (!!!) and doesn't include many of the other co-processors needed which get embedded into the tablet/laptop's motherboard by the vendors (eg ASUS, Lenovo, HP, Dell, etc etc).
Consider the history, such as the QSD 845 there were shortages everywhere. And the initial batch (January) was costing as high as USD $81 per unit. The Exynos 9810 was said to cost Samsung around USD $50 each. During the third batch rollout, which happens around June, which ships to all OEMs it typically costs about USD $60. As you can tell the sale price fluctuates greatly depending on supply and demand. By the time it was discontinued (Q2 2019) the OEM Price was as low as USD $39 per chipset. Hence, the Poco F1.
As comparison, the QSD 710 were priced around USD $40. Whereas the next spec chipset such as the QSD 636 cost about USD $30. And even lower ones like the QSD 625 variants, they cost roughly USD $20. As you can imagine they print millions of these chipsets. MediaTek chipsets are often found at the USD $10 price. Although many of the MediaTek chipsets don't come with documentation, optimised drivers, or kernel sources... not to mention corners cut when it comes to the GPS, DSP, and co-processors. However, they're able to ship millions of them. Some higher specced MediaTek chipsets costs more, and at the same price they can outperform their Snapdragon variants CPU and GPU (sometimes a little, sometimes a lot, depending on the chips).
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- 08 May 2020
Finally a 5G smartphone chipset that is fully dedicated to the gamers. This Mediatek chipset looks so good with its specs.
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- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 07 May 2020Yes mali GPU is inferior for gaming compared to Adreno. Th... moreYes they were. And a Chinese Youtube video has mentioned that the Redmi Note 8 Pro performs better than S20+ Exynos (in PUBG Mobile at same settings). S20+ experienced slight frame drops. The Redmi didn't.
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- 08 May 2020
RealLifePhones, 08 May 2020Qualcomm is ripping us all of due to the chip monopoly it h... morethank you for putting this out, I mean somebody had too! Just because it's 5G it's ridiculous that even consumers who won't benefit from the 5G services pay so much for the 5G supporting smartphones as well as expensive data packs
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- 08 May 2020
Thoroughly excited for the HyperEngine 2.0. integrated with the Dimensity 1000+. I hope the device is released soon as well.
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- 08 May 2020
Dometalican, 07 May 2020So...still no mmWave support. Darn it.. guess I can't use t... moreWhat will you do with mmWaves?
You're not in US : there's no mmWaves network
You're at home : it doesn't work through walls
You're in forest : it doesn't work through trees
You're handle it wrongly : it doesn't work through skin
There's no antenna around 1 km : it doesn't work
It's very limited physically
I can't see any benefits on mmWaves for smartphones (a new Qualcomm's patent troll weapon?).
I can see benefits on autonomous cars in cities as you're outside, antennas are on roof and heavy trafic could generate huge amount of data.
Better go for D1000...video decoder on SD865 is obsolete : no AV1 support for streaming, you will get reduced choice (Netflix, YouTube, stadia, duo, disney, Apple...)
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- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 07 May 2020i dont like Mediatek that much but these days i have respec... moreQualcomm is ripping us all of due to the chip monopoly it has. There should be 4G variants of the Snapdragon 865, 875 and even 885 for regions without or developing 5G coverage just to lower the cost but they make everyone pay just because they can. Hope they suffer from huge regression because of the ridiculous pricing. That would force them to rethink