Meizu 17 series go official with 6.6” AMOLED displays, quad cameras and Snapdragon 865
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- skitto92
- Lax
- 08 May 2020
if meizu indeed outs the meizu 17 with the frame of the screen white, that looks nice. i really wanted to see the back in the front
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- Excalibur
- t7X
- 08 May 2020
Meizu destroyed the last hope for a non notch screen, i have to settle for gaming phones the likes of rog and legion then. All notch designers are devils.
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- Anders
- 39y
- 08 May 2020
Yet more BS phones without a headphone jack or micro SD. Meizu are struggling financially and I hope they go bankrupt. They're just making useless E Waste that no one's goings-on to buy
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- SETHalpine
- sjm
- 08 May 2020
Nicolas F, 08 May 2020Pros: - flat screen (what kind of world do we live in if w... moreDid you read the article ? The 3D TOF is for depth of field and AR. For me it's one of the better censor in a mobile device, for picture, for AR and sadly builder don't use it for 3D scanning. Which is a shame... Cause it would be very useful to scan with a phone every object thatt you want. Especially, since phone are so powerful and have everything to scan
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- Anonymous
- vJt
- 08 May 2020
The back reminds me of the Nexus 6P.
Apart from that, is Meizu still playing catch-up when it comes to software updates? (if any)
I've mainly used MediaTek Meizu devices and they were rife with problems. They would release 2 maybe 3 updates and that was only for their Flyme skin.
- Nicolas F
- swN
- 08 May 2020
Zoser, 08 May 2020Oh well, you use the focal lenght of the main camera as ref... moreYes, I use focal length of the main camera as reference, because it goes without saying. When there is [main] camera, the zoom figure will be obviously relative to that [main] camera.
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- Anonymous
- qb4
- 08 May 2020
Best front design so far but the back is hideous
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- Zoser
- 3gE
- 08 May 2020
Nicolas F, 08 May 2020Hmm, yeah, there is no OIS mentioning for 17 Pro at all. I... moreOh well, you use the focal lenght of the main camera as reference, i preferred the typical angle of view in those lenses as they don't provide the maximum focal lenght of the telephoto camera so i preferred do the math 79/33 = 2.39 and 79/28 = 2.89 with 33º and 28º being the angles of view. Anyways are very typical. Is safe to say that it'll be between 2.39x and 2.89. Funny that they took the way of Sony defining it... hehehe. I bet that 3x optical zoom is not even reached in this one, like in the Xperia 1 II 200/70 = 2.85x. But only Meizu knows the true one : )
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- Zoser
- 3gE
- 08 May 2020
Zoser, 08 May 2020None of the cameras has OIS, at least not mentioned in offi... moreThe 129º angle of vision in the Meizu 17, obviously is for the UltraWide camera not for the Portrait/Sub camera one. My mistake. Anyways you now have the official specifications links to know all about this phones and watch if you are interested in them. They have NFC, lineal dual speakers and supported bands are:
NetcomGSM: B2 / B3 / B8
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B5 / B8
TD-LTE: B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
FDD-LTE: B1 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8
NR: N41 / N78 / N79
VOLTE: Mobile / Unicom / Telecom
4 × 4 MIMO
For those in Europe it doesn't have LTE B20 band (800 Mhz very important in some countries like Spain due to be the best inside edifices/buildings). Also watch if the 5G NR bands are supported by your carriers. Those are: 5G NR: N41 (TDD 2500 Mhz) / N78 (TDD 3500 Mhz) / N79 (TDD 4700 Mhz). The 700 Mhz is also not supported and important to for the future in some countries.
- Nicolas F
- swN
- 08 May 2020
Zoser, 08 May 2020None of the cameras has OIS, at least not mentioned in offi... moreHmm, yeah, there is no OIS mentioning for 17 Pro at all.
In comparison, for 16s Pro OIS is mentioned, although without specifying which camera.
But, for telephoto camera - 79/26 = 3.04, so it has 3x zoom.
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- Zoser
- 3gE
- 08 May 2020
Nicolas F, 08 May 2020It has at least one OIS tho =)
Yeah, Meizu seems to have... moreNone of the cameras has OIS, at least not mentioned in official specifications i link below, so i assume that "NO OIS" is present. NO audio jack and NO expandable memory.
Both share memory configurations but the vanilla has LPDDR4X + UFS 3.1 while the Pro has LPDDR5X + UFS 3.1.
The vanilla doesn't have a telephoto, it has main camera/wide angle, portrait camera, ultrawide camera and macro camera. The Pro has main camera/wide angle, telephoto camera with only around 2.49x optical zoom from OmniVision, for that reason they only promise 8x lossless zoom... because without OIS telephoto cameras are garbage. Ultrawide camera/Macro camera shared and 0.3MP ToF sensor .
The setup of cameras only share the main one, the rest are different. Official specs of both phones (use a traslator)...
Meizu 17:
https://www.meizu.com/17/spec
Main camera /wide angle: 64MP + Sony IMX686 + f / 1.8 + 0.8um + 26MM focal lenght + 6P lenses
Portrait camera/Sub camera: 12MP + Sony IMX362 + f / 1.9 129º
Ultrawide camera: 8MP + Samsung 4H7 + f / 2.2 + 1.12um + 16MM focal length + 5P lenses
Macro camera: 5MP + Samsung 5E9 + f / 1.9 + 1.12um + 4 lentes + 1,4um + 6P lenses
Autofocus type: PDAF
Max slow motion: 480fps
Selfie camera: 20MP + f / 2.2 + 0.8um 5P lenses
Meizu 17 Pro:
https://www.meizu.com/17pro/spec
Main camera/ wide angele: 64MP + Sony IMX686 + f / 1.8 + 0.8um + 26MM length + 6P lenses
Telephoto camera: 8MP + OV 08A10 (OmniVision) + f / 2.4 1.0um + 79MM focal length + 5P lenses
UltraWide camera/Macro camera: 32MP + Sony IMX616 + f / 2.2 + 0.8um + 15MM focal length + 6P lenses , 129º
TOF: 300,000 píxeles (0.3 MP) + Samsung 33D + f / 1.4 + 7um + 4 lentes
Autofocus type: PDAF
Max slow motion: 480fps
Selfie camera: 20MP + f / 2.2 + 0.8um 5P lenses
You can read the rest of the specifications in the official links i posted. Gsmarena... No camera with OIS figure in the official specifications, you must update/change your web specifications with the official ones. Not even in the telephoto camera where high zoom need OIS to not obtain blurred photos or too much noise. For that reason i believe that they have promised only 8X lossless, because with more zoom it will be impossible to obtain a decent image. With the typical angle of view is a 2.49x optical zoom 8MP sensor from OmniVision.
- nonama
- tZ4
- 08 May 2020
So symmetrically pretty
Too bad, availability would likely be pretty limited outside China
- RishiGuru
- fCZ
- 08 May 2020
Betch, 08 May 2020My brain is malfunctioning. What I really meant is the punc... moreSorry it seems I was a bit heavy on the technical side. :)
Yeah I also agree with you, we all want no punch hole or cut-outs in our smartphone displays.
- Betch
- G{{
- 08 May 2020
RishiGuru, 08 May 2020Regarding rear cameras of Meizu 17 & 17 Pro, I believe ... moreMy brain is malfunctioning. What I really meant is the punch hole on the front makes me disappoint, the rear cameras layout is fine.
- RishiGuru
- fCZ
- 08 May 2020
Nicolas F, 08 May 2020It has at least one OIS tho =)
Yeah, Meizu seems to have... moreIn our country we have Meizu India as a company, hence all phone sold under Meizu branding are Google certified and have Google PlayStore pre-installed. No sideloading stuff here. We also get custom India specific features like support for dual SIM dual VoLTE which are even absent on global ROMs provided to other countries.
The biggest disadvantage of owning a Meizu is non-existent software support. Forget about Android version upgrades in global ROMs. My Meizu 16th (Meizu 16 in China) came with Android Oreo in 2018 and still is in Oreo as of 2020. The FlymeOS is clean and stable but lacks the feature set, the finesse and the intuitiveness of China's best: Huawei's EMUI 10 on Android 10.
I love to use my Honor View 10 not because of its hardware prowess but because of the awesome EMUI 10. It is without a spec of doubt the best Chinese ROM out there if features set is your main priority else OnePlus's OxygenOS.
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- Anonymous
- 0xP
- 08 May 2020
What's the point of the second main camera on the non-Pro? It is inferior in every way - smaller sensor, smaller resolution, smaller pixels (1.6µm at 16MP vs 1.4µm at 12MP), and no OIS. Slightly smaller aperture, too.
- Nicolas F
- swN
- 08 May 2020
RishiGuru, 08 May 2020Strange as I also noticed the lack of OIS in their latest f... moreIt has at least one OIS tho =)
Yeah, Meizu seems to have good approach at phones design, although I haven't had any of them, only held Meizu 16 in a store, it was quite OK, software too :)
But, they don't give us Global Versions of phones and software consistently =(
- Nicolas F
- swN
- 08 May 2020
Anonymous, 08 May 2020What about Oneplus 8 Pro? Those bezels look very symmetrical It has curved screen, so it's a garbage.
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- Anonymous
- sX3
- 08 May 2020
Nicolas F, 08 May 2020Pros: - flat screen (what kind of world do we live in if w... moreWhat about Oneplus 8 Pro? Those bezels look very symmetrical