Samsung Galaxy Note20's display to be capped at 60Hz refresh rate, only Note20+ gets 120Hz
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- Samath N8 808 owner
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- 14 May 2020
Anonymous, 13 May 2020I really don't care about 120Hz displays. 60Hz refresh rate... moreYou're right. But you're ignoring that we're already at a high level of performance.
A Snapdragon 625 easily renders 60 fps @ full HD without even stressing its GPU, in the menus, so why do you believe that the latest SD 865/765 can't do 120 fps in menus and all?
Of course, not every app maker updates its interface to this trend, but I believe many can benefit from it.
The need of the hour is a flexible refresh rate, it should be from 30-120 Hz for performance and battery both. At certain triggers like screen touch, movement, game starting, animation starting, it should jump to 120Hz. and go back to 30 Hz when not needed.
I don't remember, but I saw a phone which registered even less than 10% change in battery life when using high refresh rate, a recent review on GSMArena...
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- Samath N8 808 owner
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- 14 May 2020
Its quite possible we're looking at multiple models like Note 20e, Note 20, Note 20+ and so on.
In that case, I believe it is ok to have the lowest model go through cost cutting... But the mid rangers of the range Note 20, should not have 60Hz screen. Even a $80 phone has a 60Hz screen. We can't push things this far.
Even 90Hz is better.
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- Anonymous
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- 14 May 2020
Willywagtails, 13 May 2020sounds like you've never experienced 90hertz or 120hertz.You probably didn't know standard definition CRT tvs 20 years ago have both the regular 60Hz 480i/480p and 120Hz 480i display mode. 120Hz in small phone screens is a wasteful exercise of power. It's like telling everyone they can see a significant between 350ppi phone screens and 500ppi+ at normal reading distances (9" - 10" away).
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- Anonymous
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- 14 May 2020
Fearghast, 13 May 2020You know your "play X fps video on Y Hz display", it does n... moreI know. It's an overly simplistic explanation of what's actually happening but it's easier to digest for most users here to drive home a point because it's something they can try doing and visually appreciate.
I'm not sure that if by telling them, "Displaying individual frames of a movie or video whether they be in 24fps or another frame rate is not actually a separate event from the screen refresh rate, which details how many times the display is able to redraw the entire screen containing the specific movie frame in question" would be easier for them to visualize.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 May 2020
saddameu, 13 May 2020who cares. their 120hz is not usable anyway with that batte... moreNot usable? LOL every phone with 120hz refresh rate only costs 10-15% more battery.
Even on S20 ultra, difference is Same. 87% vs 97%.
Take your higher refresh rate consumes unnecessarily more battery propoganda somewhere else.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 May 2020
Anonymous, 13 May 2020iPhone 11 Pro Max already beats s20 ultra camera forget abo... moreLol in what department?
Maybe the autofocus in some cases.
Everywhere else, S20 ultra is better.
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Anonymous, 13 May 2020Even if that were true... which is not quite. It would not ... moreApple it’s not behind just didn’t bring iPhone with half packed new features that has issues like android.
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Anonymous, 13 May 2020Even if that were true... which is not quite. It would not ... moreIt’s true accept for the zoom accept for the 5x zoom non digital zoom that s20 ultra camera can achieve. iPhone it’s better phones for a reason software updates up to 4 years, apps fit aspect ratio in the right way that android to date lot of apps doesn’t fit new aspect ratio 19:5 of new android flagship. Don’t get me wrong I love Galaxy phones more than any android flagship in the market, but some reasons still iPhone remain better.
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- Anonymous
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serious, 13 May 2020I have a standard Note 10 8/256, coming from Note 8. It's n... moreJust because it suffices enough and you either don't need a feature or have to deal with it and compromise to get the size you need does not make the sacrifices justifiable
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Wtf
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Anonymous, 13 May 2020iPhone 11 Pro Max already beats s20 ultra camera forget abo... moreEven if that were true... which is not quite. It would not make it overall better. And wooo... they finally caught up to have a tiny advantage... wow that makes them so amazing despite always being behind
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- 13 May 2020
Anonymous, 13 May 2020I really don't care about 120Hz displays. 60Hz refresh rate... moresounds like you've never experienced 90hertz or 120hertz.
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I have a standard Note 10 8/256, coming from Note 8. It's not perfect, but I've chosen it for being one of the smaller yet complete phone from last year and for the stylus I use everyday for taking quick notes. I consider and suggest it only with Samsung Protective Standing Cover: in this "configuration" it is to me the best form factor actually available on the market today (try that cover with your hands) and that's enough to forget all the new specs people "need" that are missing. It's fast enough, photos and videos are great and it's very robust (it fells on the floor at least once a day, with its cover). And battery last enough (or I just charge it 30 mins at lunch time and it's ready to go on till night). I cannot pretend more from a phone. I'm a filmaker and I even use its footage for professional works
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- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 13 May 2020While they are a crazy fan that is just complete bs. None ... moreiPhone 11 Pro Max already beats s20 ultra camera forget about Dxomark rate.
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LilPhone, 13 May 2020Push failing tech with weak Exynos chipset, failing camera ... moreSeems that you don’t know that Exynos variant of s20 ultra has better camera than snapdragon variant of s20 ultra that still has autofocus hinting issue.
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- Anonymous
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AnonD-754814, 13 May 2020This seems to be a very good decision only if it costs unde... moreSamsung just copy Apple since Apple announced that iPhone 12 price start from $640.
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- 13 May 2020
Anonymous, 13 May 2020I really don't care about 120Hz displays. 60Hz refresh rate... moreYou know your "play X fps video on Y Hz display", it does not work that way ...
Anything that can benefit higher fps can take advantage of faster refresh rate.
And no I do not care for 60+Hz on a phone, I am simply correcting your post :D
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- Anonymous
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- 13 May 2020
LilPhone, 13 May 2020Please, don't make me go back to a device with slow system/... moreWell then you are specifically referring to the exynos version. That doesn't account for the snapdragon or device itself.
Nor is the exynos that bad. It's just not as good the last couple generations.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 May 2020
A380, 13 May 2020I don't know why people are mad if it's no difference betwe... moreNot EVERYONE can easily see the difference.
It doesn't mean there is not one or that some can't see it.
And it's just an other way they are price gouging.
People have a right to be upset.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 May 2020
I really don't care about 120Hz displays. 60Hz refresh rate is the limit of visual acuity. Anything higher than that is splitting hairs and has more to do with the app animation frame rate.
What people are seeing as 'smoothness' of 120Hz display rate has more to do with the frame rate of the app/window animations rather than the overkill 120Hz display refresh rate.
Playback a 24fps video in a 120Hz display and compare results with a 60fps video played back in a 60Hz display. Then playback a 60fps video in a 120Hz display and you'll see practically no significant improvement. It's not the display refresh rate but rather the app/window animation frame rate that matters more.