Kuo: iPhone 12 lineup to use new camera lenses, periscope telephoto coming in 2022

22 July 2020
This year's iPhones will use high-quality lenses from South Korea and China.

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  • 22 Jul 2020

Wily2020, 22 Jul 2020” They'll perfect it? Lol zoom is already perfect on H... moreComparing results on tiny iPad screen.
Blow them up on a large 4k TV and then come back and talk to me pal.

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    • 22 Jul 2020

    JDK, 22 Jul 2020That may be a reason, but I feel like it's mostly for ... moreYes Apple only rolls out perfect features.
    Like the half baked, lack of customizable widgets that even Androids from 2011 do better.

      jakov1, 22 Jul 2020Sure thing buddy, suuuure thing. https://youtu.be/PaEDEO... moreHaha that was a good one! :D

        Anonymous, 22 Jul 2020Actually it's garbage quality and above 2x, quality st... moreSure thing buddy, suuuure thing.

        https://youtu.be/PaEDEOnBCJM?t=200

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          • 22 Jul 2020

          Taterman66, 22 Jul 2020You mean they wait until a feature is profitable enough to ... moreThat may be a reason, but I feel like it's mostly for perfection.

          Oftentimes, the transition for 2-5x for androids isn't that smooth. That's something that apple should perfect.

            [deleted post]” They'll perfect it? Lol zoom is already perfect on Huawei, S20U and others”

            You clearly have no idea what perfect means. Both huawei and Samsung zoom looks fake. If you zoom it should look like you didn’t use zoom at all, quality should stay same like it does with real cameras. That is perfect. S20 ultra at 5x zoom already shows not sharp photo with fake look. https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_camera_comparison-review-2071p2.php#image19 S20 ultra 5x example, looks very grainy.

            Same with Huawei https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_camera_comparison-review-2071p2.php#image20

            Both very mediocre, Apple wouldn’t release anything like that. It’s gimmick to try to sell numbers for Android people like you.

            4x looks bad too https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_camera_comparison-review-2071p2.php#image13 i’m watching these with iPad screen.

            Also Apple want the zoom to be seamless and smooth over different lenses, if you have tried 11 pro zoom you understand what i mean. It’s great experience how well it works.

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              • 22 Jul 2020

              Wily2020, 22 Jul 2020They just wait until the feature is good enough to implemen... moreAlso let's not forget you can't use the zoom in other camera apps cause they don't support it.

              Whenever apple comes with a new feature, the optimization for other apps is always there.

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                • 22 Jul 2020

                [deleted post]is already perfect on huawei devices? lol.

                what about "oh no, i can't use periscope zoom on other camera apps cause they don't support it!"?

                  Wily2020, 22 Jul 2020They just wait until the feature is good enough to implemen... moreYou mean they wait until a feature is profitable enough to release it. Apple's primary goal, just like other companies, is to maintain profit margin.

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                    • 22 Jul 2020

                    jakov1, 22 Jul 2020While it is disappointing that you can't get crisp 3x ... moreActually it's garbage quality and above 2x, quality starts detoriating.
                    Even 200$ Android phones do better zoom than iPhone.

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                      • 22 Jul 2020

                      Wily2020, 22 Jul 2020They just wait until the feature is good enough to implemen... moreInnovation is expensive and using old tech is cheap...

                        Love the Community, 22 Jul 2020They may be late but they'll perfect what Huawei had s... more. . .on the following year.

                          Anonymous, 22 Jul 2020Apple is very late. It was already disappointing that the i... moreWhile it is disappointing that you can't get crisp 3x or 5x stills with the iPhone, zoom lenses are used very rarely at their focal lengths. People usually zoom by pinching until the frame looks nice, but that is usually something like 2.4x or 3.7x zoom and iPhone's processing is way more optimized than on any Android for those cases. It's even more evident in video.

                            Wily2020, 22 Jul 2020They just wait until the feature is good enough to implemen... moreHey hey hey, I do know that they will make it great, and I got nothing against apples (green ones are quite bad tho). It's just that they make everything so premium, they make it too late

                              Andreidinutu, 22 Jul 2020Quite lateThey just wait until the feature is good enough to implement. Apple doesn't do mediocre to be first. With current Huawei and Samsung phones the zoom doesn't look natural. If you zoom it should look like you didn't use zoom at all. I think current Periscope zooms are natural looking around x3-5. Five is propably too much already. There's reason why new upcoming iPhones will only have 3x zoom. Because that will look very natural and work very well and they propably will perfect it. Apple never tries to go too far.

                              It's funny when Android users always think Apple is coming late if they do something, so many times they have did that and made it better than others. Why? Because they wanted to wait until the tech is great for masses.

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                                • 22 Jul 2020

                                Whackcar, 22 Jul 2020Annually, the first phone to feature periscope telephoto ca... moreYes, that's correct. The first smartphone with a periscope camera was the Asus Zenfone Zoom. It had a periscope zoom lens, which other phones don't have. Other phones like the P30 Pro use a periscope tele prime lens, which isn't a tele zoom lens. Nonetheless Asus periscope camera can't compete with the new periscope cameras, it captures much less light from distant objects due to a small (focal length / f-number) value.

                                  It's time Apple retires its iPhone. Boring notch in 2020 will make New Gen android meet its great grandparents.

                                    Anonymous, 22 Jul 2020"The first mainstream smartphone to feature a periscop... moreAnnually, the first phone to feature periscope telephoto camera was the Asus Zenfone Zoom back in 2015...

                                    https://m.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_zoom_zx550-6918.php

                                      i'm more hyped for Huawei's 2022 camera tech, and not at that time ancient periscope ...

                                        Iphone 11 is better buy as it seems there is nothing new in iphone 12