Kuo: Apple to offset 5G costs with cheaper battery design for iPhone 12 series

21 August 2020
5G adds between $75 and $135 to an iPhone 12 production cost compared to an iPhone 11.

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MrDong, 22 Aug 2020Seen a TikTok video of Redmi K30 Ultra and Mi 10 Ultra boug... moreShhhut uppp Xiaomi hater.
You gonna rely on some random tiktok videos?
It's the top brand in several countries Coz it provides high quality products at cheap prices.

    Spanky, 22 Aug 2020Actually, 4G is not very good for gaming, because of its re... more4G Vodafone latency is pretty low in my case, can't complain at all.

    I'm not bashing at 5G, it's the future. I'm just saying it's not justifiable yet and the prices are high.
    Plus, the network operators are charging big amounts of money for data. So, you do want superfast 5G when you have to pay a fortune for more data?

    They are still greedy about giving us more monthly data. We'll need much more Gigs per month but without raising the prices. I don't see that happen so fast...

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      Troy , 21 Aug 2020All the money Apple makes off of it's customers for th... more85-135 dollars on bill of material represents more than 250-300 in consumer price. iPhone does not cost 1000 to be made, i think it’s around 380/450 for the pros. But there are MANY other costs envolved. And the profit needs to be there also, otherwise there are no 5 years updates

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        Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Anything is better than 5G I don't want nor like the i... moreSo, 4G does not allow “big brother” to access your data now? Yeah, Keep this dream of yours

          Huples Cat, 21 Aug 2020It's almost like they have a cult-like following that ... moreNobody goes back to anyone they over, if people felt screwed over they would leave, the fact of the matter is that people love the apple ecosystem and are happy to comeback to it time and time again, that’s what helps build brand equity and loyalty. The fact that some people are happy to use an iPhone 6S or 2016 SE for the last 5 years as they still continue to get support and have no reason to leave but rather to buy into services offered is the reason why the brand such a high valuation. There is an ecosystem, there is brand loyalty and there is consistency, not a single android manufacturer has got all of that down like Apple.

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            • 22 Aug 2020

            sanshiro, 21 Aug 2020People started cancelling their yearly contracts and are sa... moreNo contradictions. Not many people need 5G (actually huge majority of consumers don't care about 5G at all), so companies should continue to make 4G only flagships. For those who need 5G (I can't imagine how they lived just a couple of years ago when 5G didn't existed) companies can make 1 model and make it very expensive ( if hardware for 5G doesn't allow to make phone more or less affordable) .

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              Anonymous, 22 Aug 2020I have a Redmi K20 and I can personally attest that getting... moreYeah that's true. Several of my friends own a Poco F1 and has reported multiple issues. One is display ghost touch. Mi phone quality is not even across the board. Only once MIUI gets better to some extent then I'll consider a Poco F2 Pro. At least it's not realme.

              But hey Xiaomi also steals personal data. Look up the fingerprint sensor debacle on the K20 Pro and Poco F2 Pro where optical fingerprint sensor may take a photo of your face.

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                MrDong, 22 Aug 2020Seen a TikTok video of Redmi K30 Ultra and Mi 10 Ultra boug... moreI have a Redmi K20 and I can personally attest that getting a good MiUi or hardware is like lottery.
                If you get a good phone, nice ! But, if not, be prepared to deal with stutters, bugs and setting that reset to default with every software update.

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                  Wily2020, 21 Aug 2020Battery life will very likely be as good as current models ... moreChipset helps but it's 2020 so I expect bigger batteries for lower-end iPhone 12 models. It's just small in today's standards. Switching battery designs may mean lower quality but we'll see for ourselves.

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                    [deleted post]Seen a TikTok video of Redmi K30 Ultra and Mi 10 Ultra bought straight from China and has a serious software glitch. Phone just freezes completely. In the K30 Ultra, popup camera won't retract. That's you call minimum compromise but OK.

                      Bodygard, 21 Aug 2020They can keep 5G for themselves for another 5 years. Tech n... moreActually, 4G is not very good for gaming, because of its relatively high latency. SA 5G will certainly help with that.

                      I don’t get why so many people are bashing 5G, in these comments. Yes, it’s a new technology and the coverage is still limited, but the advantages are undeniable, coverage will expand rapidly and the speeds will also increase (just like they did with 3G and 4G).

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                        [deleted post]But still the iFans will que up for it saying it's the most innovative phone Apple has produced as they look round for a power socket to charge the smaller battery with.

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                          Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Good on Apple for bringing manufacturing costs down, but th... moreIf you read the article, you would know that cost savings elsewhere are to try to offset some or all of the ~$85 it costs to add sub-6 5G, and ~$135 it costs to add mm-wave 5G. Otherwise prices might jump as severely as Samsung's, OnePlus's, Huawei's, etc. have in the last couple of years. Of course reading anything Apple-related objectively would hamper one's ability to troll these comment boards.

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                            • 22 Aug 2020

                            First Samsung with the 1000usd plastic phone now Apple with the "worse" battery. Then Huawei is banned. Great now I have to learn to root Xiaomi, unless they will get banned as well.

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                              sahafiec, 21 Aug 2020manufacturing costs going down while product prices still g... moreNot if you chose to pay it

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                                Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020How is apple abusing Epic? By promoting them on stage? B... moreI agree!!

                                  For people who think Xiaomi's prices are too high lately...A graphene battery with dedicated 120W superfast charger they introduced last week....Apple would charge $500 just for that..;)

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                                    Vic, 21 Aug 2020How many people really need 5G so Apple wants to sacrifice ... moreIn China, Koreea is a must.

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                                      Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Umm... come again? The latest iphones have among the bes... moreCan't read huh?

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                                        As if whatever the hell they're using right now aren't already cheap enough?