TSMC is ready to deliver 5nm chips, 3nm scheduled for H2 2022

25 August 2020
The N3 process will need 30% less power and will bring 10% better performance than N5.

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  • 25 Aug 2020

Anonymous, 25 Aug 2020LIES... they said same 30% for 14 nm , 30% for 10mm , 30 %... moreWhat are you talking about? How would a 30% increase in power draw from the processor be equivalent to a 30% decrease across the whole phone? Battery life HAS improved over the last 3-5 years... So has screen size, screen quality, the complexity of apps, the graphics of mobile-based games (and their own respective performance due to the quality of hardware increasing), bio-metrics have become more advanced too, I could go on. Why do people like you always have to see the negative on anything? You're on a forum specifically about phones, at least pretend you like them

    Mikele, 25 Aug 2020There's no stealing crime on technology it's adap... moreYeah, very true

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      • Anonymous
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      • 25 Aug 2020

      LIES...
      they said same 30% for 14 nm , 30% for 10mm , 30 % for 8mm ; 30 % for 5 mm....
      Battery life should be %150 according to this logic compared to 4 - 5 year old flagship, but it is nowhere near...
      LIES...

        3nm? That is fast.

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          • Anonymous
          • PZa
          • 25 Aug 2020

          M3S4, 25 Aug 2020That is actually common practice for many big corporates. B... moreI'm not American so I don't really have anything against government funding. I'm not actually sure what you mean by "interception", whatever that means. Unethical business practices? I'm sure there are a lot more examples of American companies engaging in unethical business practices than there are Chinese ones.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 25 Aug 2020

            Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moretsmc advanced technology 😂😂😀😀😀😀😀😂😂😂😂😂😂

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              • Anonymous
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              • 25 Aug 2020

              KEEPCHINAGREAT2020, 25 Aug 2020I mean it's a great thing, SMIC was 20 years behind in... moreYes, if there is a chance for the US to block the purchase of lithography equipment from ASML, they'll have to develop their own. I guess ASML could strip their equipment of US tech before selling them to China.

                Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020So hacking & stealing tech is justified if you give job... moreThere's no stealing crime on technology it's adaptation of know how. Those who has the foundries for chips manufacturing did they comes from heaven? They all learnt the technologies breakthrough somewhere

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                  • 25 Aug 2020

                  Anonymous, 25 Aug 2020You are talking like only they poach employees from other c... moreI mean it's a great thing, SMIC was 20 years behind in Chip fabbing, just a few years ago, now they are just 4 years behind TSMC and they have a mass production ARM 14nm and RISC-V 12nm Fabs.


                  along with 7nm DUV on line with a 5nm for 2023, it's really working wonders for them, without the need for Dutch ASML.

                  The latest Alibaba RISC-V is based on 12nm SMIC and has made huge strides for a brand new core based on a clean sheet ISA design.

                  TRUMPS Sanctions are a great gift for Chinese semi conductor industry.

                  Without Sanctions they wouldn't have bothered to make SMIC new process's and would have stuck with the old SMIC 120nm Fab.

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                    • 25 Aug 2020

                    Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moreThat is actually common practice for many big corporates. But there's Intellectual property law to protect that as long they are not stealing the actual code, that's fine.

                    Chinese product issue is not about that, rather than government funding and interception, unethical business practice.

                      Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moreAll large companies compete for the best employees. Headhunters are always contacting employees to try recruit them for positions with other companies. Don't think there is much unusual about that. It happens all the time in every country

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 25 Aug 2020

                        sayabosanhidup, 25 Aug 2020u should go contribute at least something useful first bef... moreDon't be so foolish.

                        The Chinese will do ANYTHING to win.
                        Stop pushing your "Racism" agenda, virtue signalling gets you nowhere.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • yAL
                          • 25 Aug 2020

                          Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moreYou are talking like only they poach employees from other companies

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                            • Anonymous
                            • D0d
                            • 25 Aug 2020

                            I ore interested in what SMIC does, since they are the one who are fabbing RISC-V ALIBABA CHIPS.


                            And they have been making massive strides.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • nfy
                              • 25 Aug 2020

                              Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020So hacking & stealing tech is justified if you give job... moreAt this point stealing from China is stealing back what was yours to begin with :D.

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                                • 25 Aug 2020

                                Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moreWow.. mainstream news doesn't report this stuff. Have to say, US govt is doing one good thing by stopping illegal activities of these Chinese.

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                                  • Savethechips
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                                  • 25 Aug 2020

                                  sayabosanhidup, 25 Aug 2020u should go contribute at least something useful first bef... moreSo hacking & stealing tech is justified if you give jobs & feed people ?
                                  So, should all others countries come together to ravage & steal from China & then distribute it among their people, according to you, that will be okay, right?

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • nfy
                                    • 25 Aug 2020

                                    sayabosanhidup, 25 Aug 2020u should go contribute at least something useful first bef... moreWhat have you contributed to, your uneccessary comment excluded?

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                                      • 25 Aug 2020

                                      Savethechips, 25 Aug 2020No wonder Chinese companies SMIC, Hongxin & Quanxin are... moreu should go contribute at least something useful
                                      first before making unnecessary comments dude

                                      they have given so much to society incluring
                                      salaries that help their family buy this n that

                                        Come on intel just made 7nm. Stop beating them