The 12-inch MacBook to be the first with Apple's ARM CPU
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- ibX
- 01 Sep 2020
I don't even remember the 12-inch MacBook exists in the first place. All I remember is the 13 Air, 13 Pro, and 16 Pro.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 01 Sep 2020
AnonD-889996, 01 Sep 2020AMD beats Intel in CPU performance Nvidia beats AMD in GPU... moreWhen AMD started outperforming Intel by significant margin, Apple might have been already going full-on with Apple Silicon Mac development, so it probably made no sense for them to optimise their OS for AMD CPUs. As for GPU, Apple is sticking with AMD for 2 different reasons: They want to keep the overall TDP under 100W on MBP, and Nvidia has a terrible relationship with Apple.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 01 Sep 2020
shappy, 01 Sep 2020Apple is so lazy.... atleast they should go with different ... more12 inch MB does not have a cooling capacity to sufficiently cool 15W SoC. A14X will probably have around 6W-8W of TDP which is comparable to Core M series therefore is perfectly manageable.
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- 01 Sep 2020
Fearghast, 31 Aug 2020Can't wait not to see Macbook 12 underclocked to 50% f... more"Apple is not able to design anything that can be even considered as a cooling system"
They are doing it on purpose. MBP 13 and MBA should have roughly the same spatial volume inside the chassis but MBA can't run cool, because Apple intentionally gimped it and decided not to include heat pipes and connect its single fan into a heat sink. They did the same for the iMac & iMac Pro as well. You need to pay more to get better cooling - something I'm definitely not a fan of about Apple.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 01 Sep 2020
Android.Master, 31 Aug 2020ARM CPU? Get prepared for bugs. Rosetta 2 translates apps JIT/upon installation at binary level therefore they shouldn't have any "bugs". Apple Silicon Macs will have a few issues in short-medium term but bugs are definitely not one of them.
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- Nick Tagataka
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- 01 Sep 2020
It makes a lot of sense, really. 12 inch MB was disastrous in terms of heat and had short battery life due to "Ultra efficient" Core i7 a.k.a rebranded Core M, hence they chose it to showcase their prowess in thier chip designing capability. Change nothing apart from the SoC (and possibly a heat sink) and make it perform so much better - not really a hard task for Apple given how well their A series processors have been performing on iPhone and iPad both of which have far more constrained cooling systems than any Mac products.
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- Kek
- GBh
- 01 Sep 2020
People here praise ARM for being "power efficient" and "cooler", and forget the mess Exynos and Snapdragon 808/810 were.
Yes, they generally are, but that doesn't means they cant heat up like crazy. So far, we have only see those Apple processors running simple trivial stuff on iPadOS (which is basically a fork from iOS at this point) and iOS. Mac is another different thing on its own.
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- MrLong
- xZI
- 01 Sep 2020
shappy, 01 Sep 2020Apple is so lazy.... atleast they should go with different ... moreDifferent chipset? That chipset is already powerful enough for a small laptop. I don't know what else they can put in that laptop.
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- shappy
- rJQ
- 01 Sep 2020
Apple is so lazy.... atleast they should go with different chipset than ipad
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- Jaeger
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- 01 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 01 Sep 2020I actually agree on this one. Have a gt70 with a 770m and a... moreBut people constantly on the move (like me), can't have a desktop for gaming. My i5 8300H, 16 GB DDR4 RAM and GTX 1060 can run most games at high settings (if not ultra) at 60 fps.
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- AnonD-889996
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- 01 Sep 2020
AMD beats Intel in CPU performance
Nvidia beats AMD in GPU performance
Apple: Uses Intel CPU and AMD GPU and make it expensive
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- Anonymous
- 0xU
- 01 Sep 2020
Anonymous, 01 Sep 2020I actually agree on this one. Have a gt70 with a 770m and a... moreBut having the ability to manage the same files on both is a must. Never do cad work in solid works, autodesk and freecad - you'll have a bad time.
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Sep 2020
Andreidinutu, 01 Sep 2020No way I'd play games on a laptop. I was just joking a... moreI actually agree on this one. Have a gt70 with a 770m and a 4700mq, wasted my money (technically my mom did but yeah). If i were to get myself a work and gaming setup i'd just build a pc to run everything on high-ultra @1440p for the next 5 years a 144hz 27 monitor and a 14-15 laptop that's cheap (an all rounder). And i'd still have enough money leftover for a pizza party.
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- MrLong
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- 01 Sep 2020
Android.Master, 31 Aug 2020ARM CPU? Get prepared for bugs. What bugs?
Windows laptops with intel and AMD CPUs have lots of bugs, just ask Linus Tech or Tom's Hardware and they'll pinpoint that.
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- MrWong
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- 01 Sep 2020
Android.Master, 31 Aug 2020ARM CPU? Get prepared for bugs. Lol what bugs?
Lots of Windows computers with intel and AMD CPUs have bugs either. Lots.
- Andreidinutu
- nDy
- 01 Sep 2020
Andreidinutu, 01 Sep 2020No way I'd play games on a laptop. I was just joking a... moreAlso I haven't played fortnite in 2 years now. And haven't played more than 5 games then either.
I care about classics such as gta5, saints row, just cause 3, you name it
My i7 4790 with a gtx 1070, 32 gb of ddr3 ram has a few stutters on ultra settings on gta 5 sadly
- Andreidinutu
- nDy
- 01 Sep 2020
Fearghast, 31 Aug 2020Can't wait not to see Macbook 12 underclocked to 50% f... moreNo way I'd play games on a laptop. I was just joking around. This is a very powerful machine, but that doesn't mean people must game on it
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- Pabliell
- mNQ
- 01 Sep 2020
Well, Mac users won't see any difference. Right now Macs throttle so much thanks to Apples 'innovative" cooling, that ARM based CPU straight from iPhone might be even faster, since it's way more power efficient and won't heat up as much.
- Fearghast
- 3D9
- 31 Aug 2020
Android.Master, 31 Aug 2020ARM CPU? Get prepared for bugs. Yeah when we compare it to Intel CPUs ... oh, ow ... OH, it was a SARCASM, I get it.
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- Mediatek sux
- DkZ
- 31 Aug 2020
salarx, 31 Aug 2020Wait for the claim like 'A14x bionic is as powerful as... moreThatll be 5 years later with a20x or something, just like their claim of a12x matching the xbox one.